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You CAN inherit handguns from out of state without needing PP's or registering them as long as they're not AWs. Same process as in state.

I see your point with those long guns, it's an argument someone will have to make to a judge if they were to get jammed up for it. Hopefully it won't be me.

I have heard of people buying M1 garands in NYC and having to get bayo lugs ground off. Not sure how they get around the 8 shot capacity.

It wasn't in a shallow pond with dead ground hogs in south Jersey was it? I hope someday I can buy my first firearm.

Aren't you agreeing with me? I did say that it wouldn't apply (as in, it would not be classified as a "pistol grip"), I was thinking he was talking about a forward handgrip that would be held by the non trigger hand.

Not that I have any idea what he will end up doing, but Middletown was beyond packed last time and I wanted to ask him some questions but he had about 5 people waiting for him every time I went over to his tables. Philly would be closer for him though. A real conundrum.

If your talking about T&T for reloading, I know he does the Middletown, NY show which is the same weekend, so he will have to pick one show to do.

That wouldn't apply, since the law AG's interpretation of the law also says that a "pistol grip" is designed to allow the gun to be held and fired with one hand.

They just started doing this, if you have an exemption the dealer will need to read off the serials to them on what your buying at the time of the NICS.

Or do an exemption, I can't wait 3 or 4 months to get all my stuff. It usually takes about 2 1/2 weeks to get the exemption back from the NJSP.

I have one, they're nice shooters. 32 ACP doesn't kick much in any gun, but is usually very accurate. Spare mags are not that cheap though, about $30.

There are 20 round "trench" mags that fit K98 mausers.....they would be legal since they do not fit any semi auto's ..... as far as I know.

Usually the only gun info given to the NJSP during NICS is if it's a handgun, long gun, both or other (stripped receiver, etc.) that is being purchased. Only recently is handgun make and serial # being divulged if you are buying multiple handguns on an exemption, this is done to ensure OGAM compliance. It doesn't matter if you buy a long gun in state or out, "they" don't know specifically what you're buying or how many you're buying on a NICS check. If you do a FTF sale with a non dealer they wouldn't even know the transaction occurred.

I think we should notify the press that our permit system DOES cause people to buy more handguns, that way the politicians will get rid of it fast. Seriously, I think it will make serious enthusiasts buy more handguns, lest they waste a permit (I know I never let one go to waste). This is offset by the many who want to get into shooting but don't want to deal with NJ's Byzantine regs and don't bother following through.

The gang bangers saw them off, especially the shotguns. They certainly don't care about federal regs.

Thanks, that's why this forum is so great, I've learned more here in the last 6 months than in the last 20 or so years I've been buying guns.

Do you know how long ago this was? Leave it to NJ, we need to do all this paper work BS only for them to put it in a database anyway, they could save us all a bunch of time and money and allow the dealer to print out a permit at the time of sale (assuming we can't scrap the permit system altogether).

Like what PTR does with H & K clones now.

Does anyone know if PPP records are even computerized? I know they keep the paper records at your towns PD and the SP gets a copy but are they actually putting them into a computer? I know even after you sell a handgun they still keep a copy of the PPP in your file forever, so in an event like this, they could be chasing a lot of ghosts. As far as long guns, unless your updating your local PD about your purchases on your on volition, they wouldn't know what you even own. AR's, AK's and shotties make for better riot control than handguns anyway.

Well I hope your right. Unfortunately we have no precedent go on ...... although that could be for the reasons you stated.

I sell Edge wrap around stylish OSHA approved safety glass for around $13. They sell well because they look cool and actually protect your eyes from UV as well as flying objects for only a little more than the junk glasses you see everywhere. My opinion, this is the way to go.

Not being a wise a** here, a sincere question. While I understand what your saying to be true, don't you think, considering that this is NJ, that some prosecutors would try to prosecute nonlicensees for possession of a temporarily blocked mag? Even if you prevail it will cost you a lot of money to prove you're right.

Yes, you are correct, that is registration. What I was referring to was the fact that in NJ you can inherit handguns, move here with your legally purchased handguns or continue to legally possess handguns bought before registration went into effect without being required to register them. In NY ANY unregistered handgun is illegal, you have to renew your handgun permit every 5 years (or something like that), when you buy a handgun the dealer is not allowed to let you touch it until you have your permit in your hand, and once you do buy it, you have to take it to the state police barracks so they can personally read the serial numbers off of it and add it to you permit. One guy I met who lived on LI was telling me the NYSP barracks was 40 miles from his house, and each purchase required at least two trips there. Sure carrying is a benefit, but it's not universally available in all of NY and prohibited in NYC (where you need it most) even if you have the license.

This was exactly my thought, and last I checked Ramsey's transfer fees were exorbitant. I would check around there are plenty of dealers that will do transfers for $40 - $60 NICS included. As far as negotiating prices, I do it all the time (at smaller stores) unless I know something is at a really good price already, especially with used guns. If you ask politely know one is going to get offended, worst case they will just say they can't do it.

Thanks for the info. I was thinking about going this afternoon. Saved me from wasting some pricey fuel.