Soju

That is what I was thinking. No idea if it is actually the case, but I am struggling to see how a NJ FFL would know who is or isn't the original owner unless something got flagged...like it being reported stolen.

Maybe the guy that initially asked them to leave was afraid he was going to get jammed up, like that poor hot dog cart vendor in Philadelphia, or this guy:

More likely just some hoplophobe complained. I think this is more of an instance of shear stupidity of an individual rather than someone planning malice.

Correct, if you get sued. It won't do you much good in a criminal prosecution, unless your insurance can be used in place of jail time. I wasn't aware people held liability insurance for instances where they knowingly commit crimes. So you are in favor of more restrictions on firearms than we currently have?

The Russians have a terrible safety record when it comes to aviation. That was pretty crazy.

I read a ton...just not books. It's been years since I read a book last. I think it was In a Company of Heroes' by Michael Durant (the surviving Black Hawk pilot shot down in Somalia...what Black Hawk Down was based off of. I guess you could say I'm reading 'Conversation Korean', but that is more of a text book...

Then they wouldn't need insurance, they would need a lawyer. Selling a firearm to someone when you know they are going to use it illegally is a crime...

Pine wood derby is a huge scam. It was designed as a sneaky way to allow dads to play with toy cars without their wives getting upset. Apparently my dad really liked playing with toy cars. I won two years in a row...

The fact that suppressors are an NFA item is a joke. What better way to help reduce noise that is both harmful to your own hearing and can be annoying to neighbors? The fact they cannot be used for hunting in many states is equally ridiculous. If I am not mistaken, there are European nations that REQUIRE the use of a suppressor for certain hunting. I could be mistaken. SBR's and SBS's being NFA items is pretty dumb as well. Why is it okay to have a AR pistol and an AR (yes yes, NJ is retarded when it comes to these too), yet an AR with a 14" barrel is now a restricted NFA item? Why a 18" barrel coach gun okay but a utility pump gun with a 17.5'' barrel is restricted? What practical purpose does this serve? Machine Guns being an NFA item makes some sense. What is a joke is that you can't sell newly manufactured Machine Guns to private citizens. I suppose the design was to artificially inflate the cost that it would require a ridiculous amount of cash to own one, by limiting the number of legally transferable ones. While that I disagree with, at least this makes sense. The other NFA items, not so much. AOW is an interesting class. This I can also understand. It is a catch all. The fact it only requires a $5 tax stamp is acceptable IMO. I mean, I still don't agree, but it is practical enough I suppose. I guess it is better to have an AOW class rather than leaving firearms that otherwise would fall into this (if it didn't exist) up to the discretion of authorities and courts to decide what it is, which could easily land people in trouble. What is most frustrating about the NFA system is that it varies from state to state. This isn't surprising, or even strange. I mean, regular gun laws vary from state to state. It is frustrating nonetheless, because even transporting (sans suppressors) an NFA item between states, when legal in both, can be a hassle. So in short, yes I think machine guns should be legal, non restricted/non NFA item firearms, just like the rest of NFA items should be as well.

After reading through the replies, I think the best way to handle this situation is to combine everyones ideas. Have one person politely inform them of their ill manners, while another person berates the crap out of them. This is followed up with a stern lecture. All of this is done loudly enough for other to hear and embarrass them. Lastly, before they leave, you trip them. If there is a pool near by, you push them in. I think that would do well to get your point across.

See that is the problem. It CAN pass. They could care less whether or not it is constitutional. They pass this type of crap and only if it gets shot down after lawsuits will it not matter. Until then, they have time to enforce their unlawful legislation...

Oh, I believe it. I was just saying, do you need to in order to peacefully protest? Lawfully? Absolutely not. Too bad much like the 2nd, the 1st is only followed when it is convenient. You are probably right. The media portrayal of it would be terrible. I was going to say, doing so is the best way to make a point, but I almost forgot how anti-gun agenda driven, truth spinning, and outright lie spewing the media is.

On a related note, can you do a FTF transaction out of state, in PA for example, between two NJ residents?

I'll throw out a suggestion. Tikka T3.

Craw

Prop

Is the 1k for just the rifle or scope included? How far to you plan on shooting out to? Just target shooting? You are right indeed, there are a ton of options. Everybody is going to have their own opinion, so don't discount something that doesn't get mentioned.

Well played. Back on track though. Took

Yes. I have a spread sheet going. Sorry I didn't catch it yet though, umm....what size?

Boob again.

Boos

then everybody died. The end.

This is favorite flightless bird, not farm animal or type of dog.

bogg

Ding