Soju

Only agenda driven instigators videotape though right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQZjXDuGh6Y&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JNQ5ImSfqg&feature=related&noredirect=1

If I had my other computer I could show you links to over a hundred different videos of exactly that. Sad ain't it.

I'd hope you'd go with either 1 or 2, but the fact you even mention the 3rd option is scary...because even based on said hypothetical you even hint at your reasoning being a bunch of bologna. Edit: Nevermind, you didn't hint at it being bologna, you outright said it. Good thing we now have you admitting that you might intentionally arrest someone for something you know to not be illegal...because you can. Not surprising, I've seen it a hundred times.

Scary thought that could be true...

Which PK90 never denied... What he said.

Well don't you sound stupid now. Carrying is legal in Philly. I, and many others on this forum, can and do carry in Philly all the time. I suppose nobody on this forum is an average citizen then, because many of us have stated many times that we would be willing to go through training to be able to carry here. Many of us already have gone through extensive training. Many people have taken course to get carry permits from other states. But you are right, only special people like yourself that wear a badge should get that privilege. Tyranny alert. We have found one of their minions. Do as the government says and you will be okay, but don't dare stand up for yourself against anything that may be unjust! But don't fear! Justjules is here! Please bow down to his mighty authority. Yep, because nobody here ever has or ever does carry a firearm. We all have no idea! And we are the ones thick headed? You are hilarious! So much for being 'done with this thread', huh?

And this relates to checkpoints how? Did he break the law? Only if he is convicted of something. But since these are fun, I have one for you. I am walking down the sidewalk with my camera. I notice you on a traffic stop, and stand by and film it. You approach me, ask me what I am doing, and for my ID. I continue filming while saying nothing. I don't comply with anything you say. This frustrates you. What happens next?

Apology accepted. See I interpreted his response as being both broader than that (hence his 'move to Ohio' quip), as well as being sarcastic in general about the Constitution. Last time I checked, that was suppose to be like, the most important legal document we had. I know I swore an oath to it, and people like the President do, and other government officials. Found it odd someone who I assume to be a LEO cared so little about it...

I didn't say anything to the legality of this specific checkpoint. I didn't say it was unconstitutional. I didn't say anybody was violating peoples rights. I did point out that there are criteria that needs to be met, and that doesn't always happen. I am saying that this is a possibility, and not everything, even if 'legal', is constitutional, or necessary.

Sometimes I feel like when people argue with you, you take it as if they are hating on police in general. That is not always the case. Maybe they just don't like you personally.

I am. I am not accusing police officers, but you seem fit on defending checkpoints, which if you haven't gathered yet, is what I have an issue with. Please point to me where I even mentioned an expectation of privacy. There is a difference between the constitutionality of a suspicionless checkpoint and what you are saying. Thank you, I am aware.

And there it is. Not surprising though. Because they can. Because there is no accountability for them, so they can just do whatever they want. Glad you at least admit to it. Judging from your posts, I know them significantly better than you do. The fact that you are both avoiding what was posted, and twisting it to mean something different, and irrelevant, my response would be futile. But that hasn't stopped me yet.

Oh, so the Constitution only applies to being in your dwelling or in Ohio. Man I was looking at things all wrong. Thanks for the correction! Also, suspiciousness checkpoints are only legal under specific circumstances, and violations of them could nullify citations or make searches in some circumstances illegal. These checkpoints primary purpose is NOT safety, but rather revenue generations, as BLF so aptly pointed out.

^^^^^^ The first time I heard about an 'Elephant Walk' I was very concerned and confused until I found out what the AF version was.

No you don't......

Irrelevant. The charges were dropped, therefore he was not found guilty of any crimes. They stole his property, plain and simple. At this point it doesn't matter that they are firearms, or beanie babies. They are his, and they have been stolen from him. And what recourse does he have? Right now, he has none. This happens all the time, and it depends on if the individual feels like fighting it or not. Many times, what they have stolen, isn't worth the hassle to them. Unless the system changes and allows individuals, as opposed to government, to file criminal charges, this will not change. They (government) know this, so they don't care. It is in some ways very much like the state of NJ violating the FPID and pistol permit issuing laws. I'd say more but it would be futile. This angers me so much.

3rd deployment here. Doubtful. After looking at another photo the boom said Penna ANG which I believe is the 171st ARW out of Pittsburgh.

From some of my travels. Palm Tree Island from 35,000 feet. Approach into Guam. Landing in Columbia Oops, windscreen's broke. About to be refueled by a 135. Landing on some dirt in Afghanistan.

I'm deployed and typing this from 'The Rock' right now.

Let the defense present the case and have the jury decide if it applies maybe?

Yep, 12 minutes of deliberation, she definitely had a fair and unbiased jury! Glad to see the people of Florida take life altering decisions with so much thought... I also love how a judge can simply decide whether or not they will even allow the defense to simply present an argument if they don't feel it applies, before they even make the argument. Got to love our justice system. 20 years, even if guilty of some crime, does not fit said crime in this situation. I guarantee that had the situation gone the other way, and her husband actually did assault her, and injure her (but not kill), he would have gotten less than half the sentence she got.

Yet that happens every day here in this 'free' country. Weird isn't it?

All the school massacres committed by kids with paintball markers? I would say it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand there is a difference between a kid taking a paintbal marker to school to show his friends and a kid taking a firearm to school to shoot somebody, but I guess that is lost on some people. The fact that some people, parents, teachers, and kids panic because of a paintball marker is not the kids fault, it is their own problem. Figure it out, deal with it, and move on, or go live by yourself in a shell. The pussification of America continues.

"Miss us yet?" Yes. I cannot comment further without conflict, thought I have some strong feelings and viewpoints on this subject as it relates to today.

Sits next to me on the couch, table, bed, or counter.