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Not that this is related specifically to these guys, but the whole "anybody but {insert name here}" thing, I think is a terrible line of thinking and is why you see little change on big issues because most politicians are just a different face of the same thing. Support who you agree with, and who you think is best, and not who you think might win.

I started this thread with a neutral thought on Serpas, but after reading this thread, I am pretty sure I am going to buy another one.

Not surprised. Things like this happen on all sorts of levels, why not this? If you start off using authority to coerse and get things out of middle school students, it will only be easier to do the same as they get older. I mean, why wouldn't you want to make it easier to get people to give up their constitutional rights? Do schools even teach The Constitution anymore? It is pretty simple to do anyways. When you teach that you should always just be compliant with authority figures, because that is 'in your best interest' or 'will just make things easier for you', and get kids and people to actually believe this, it allows and enables things like this to happen. Land of the free though, right?

Yes it is. Shot there the other week. Not a bad alternative if you are close and need a place to shoot a few times.

Money is to sex as homeless is to wifi. I thought it was pretty simple but I always got those questions wrong on tests. I get it now. Pimp pays prostitute to troll streets where she gives sex in exchange for money. Company pays homeless to troll places where they give wifi in exchange for...something. That makes more sense. No wonder I always got those questions wrong before.

That's a broad question/statement? My only suggestions are to get one without a magazine disconnect and without an external safety. After that, up to you.

What do you mean? Was it worth using his skill and training to land the aircraft safely saving his life, a multi-million dollar weapon system, instead of bailing out and leaving the aircraft to crash somewhere in a move that would destroy the jet and possibly kill people on the ground, as well as subject himself to a dangerous bailout? No, he did what he should have done, and displayed skill, training, and airmanship any aviator would be glad to have.

Question 10 is BS. In fact, the 'right' answer is closes to the only answer that isn't correct.

Granted I've only shot 2 boxes, but I don't recall any issues with them.

FOPA. You can drive through NY as long as you are doing so in accordance with FOPA. If you are going to stay in NY, that is a different story, and while I haven't looked into it specifically I do seem to recall something like you said. However if you are staying in CT, then that is not applicable here, and FOPA becomes applicable.

I believe he probably did shoot in self defense. The problem? It sounds like he was the initiator/instigator. If what is being reported is mostly accurate, here is what I gather. Again, only based on what has been reported. - Zimmerman calls 911 from car about a suspicious person (ok, nothing wrong here) - He follows said suspicious person (nothing necessarily wrong, but certainly nothing smart either) - He exits vehicle (he is armed, and he is intentionally getting involved in a potential situation) - A fight starts after an obvious confrontation (he is now IN a situation) - He shoots individual (after 3 chances to de-conflict, he now uses deadly force in a situation that he initiated) Let us look at Florida's use of force laws. CHAPTER 776 JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE So here we see that there are 2 separate exceptions in which he could have legally used force. I would only have to assume one of these is the case if he was not arrested. If not, then he was NOT justified. If so, he WAS justified. Sticky situation either way.

Good read. I read this close to a year ago. Very interesting story! It kind of reminded me of that Nicolas Cage movie 'Lord of War'.

Yes, the evil voluntary act of drinking soda that could maybe, potentially, in some form, lead to something, that could possibly increase the risk of cancer, is evil and must be stopped. No mind those happy healthy cigarettes or fun box airport body scanners. Those things are just bundles of joy and have no impact on cancer...

Someone who has no regard for someone else's safety for the sake of their own personal gain, doesn't have the right to their own safety. I have no pity. To be honest, sounds like the best possible outcome assuming the article is accurate.

While typing my last post I forgot to mention one thing. I still stand by my previous, I don't think they are any meaner, I think though it is more prevalent, or that is to say, it happens more often with less discipline, and for the very reasons you suggest. I'm pretty sure we are on the same page here, just looking at it slightly different.

I don't think kids are any meaner...or nicer, just there is more capability and visibility via social networks/the internet and the likes. So in that sense, you are absolutely right. The other problem is, the pussification of America is out of control. People don't know how to deal with bullies/bullying, and it some cases, it is made much worse by parents/teachers/other adults. Good point about msnbc.

I'm sure the 4th Amendment has the same effect on you too.

Bumpski?

I like waffles.

And Hitler was Time magazine 'Man of the year' in 1938. The point?

I concur. If money were an issue, I'd still go along the same lines...with a Tikka.

His response is incredible. I guess that is true, I am sure they knew that someone was beside their target. I mean, the rule is that you know, so as long as you know that you can ignore the intent without violating the rule... And the comment about the internet commandos followed by saying to join their forum was just too much. If they guy was shot or killed, sorry, no pity from me. Darwin knew his stuff. Oh yeah, and he compared it to breaking some 180 degree rule. Well let's think for a second. The shooters were shooting about, say, 10 feet. The camera man was say, 2 feet from the shooters on either side. Using some basic math, that means the angle of difference it would take to cover him with the muzzle, would be only about 12 degrees off target. 180-12=168. So his reference was off by about 168 degrees, or around 93%. Yeah, good job with the comparison jackass.

Bar coded condoms, soon to be followed by free OBGYN visits for females where they get special bar code scanners!...............

You mean everyone doesn't do that?

Well we do know what they allege he said, which is... " “I’m close to going on a stabbing spree. I can’t take some of these people anymore.” Then on Monday, along with the photo of him holding the rifle, he allegedly wrote: “Who agrees with their friend that it’s a good idea to shoot up a school?”"