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Fair point. That was indeed lost. I was never talking about the arrest of the pot smokers (though I disagree with). I suppose it helps the discussion if we are on the same page... With that said, let me ask you a few questions. Are you against jury nullification? Do you think laws like the NY SAFE act should be enforced? Is there any law you wouldn't follow (say tomorrow PA outlawed all AK, AR, or any other semi-auto rifle)?

Not sure where you are getting that from. Correct, we weren't talking about speeding. We were originally talking about somebody who was arrested for speaking at a pro-marijuana rally. I still don't know what law you think he was breaking that makes his arrest legitimate, and that is despite any feelings of whether that mystery law is just or not. I'm not sure I made comment about those who were arrested for smoking pot. We were talking about the arrest of Adam Kokesh, the arrest you agreed with on grounds that he was antagonizing and verbally attacking the police. We weren't.

Of course it should be changed. I fail to see how ignoring it (in terms of enforcement) in the mean time is a bad thing. Do you disagree with the quote from Jefferson I posted earlier? If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. - Thomas Jefferson And this is a bad thing???

This confuses me greatly. Because society is vast means that laws should be blindly enforced? Holy ravioli batman! The part about me not agreeing, well you got that right! I don't doubt your sincerity. I do question your logic however. If you feel all laws should be blindly enforced, are you also against jury nullification? I find it odd earlier you stated that the government was the source of your problem (presumably referring to politicians and lawmakers), yet feel that only those same people are the ones who should be able to change laws. What makes you think politicians should be trusted more than police and the general public? I'm under no delusion that people have different feelings as to what is right or wrong. I'm also aware that for many things, what is enforced and how things are enforced comes from the higher levels of law enforcement. Policing is very political. Do you wonder why, for the most part, the LEO's who are coming out against gun control and saying they won't enforce certain laws (what I am saying), are mostly elected Sheriffs and NOT politically appointed police chiefs?

Clearly that isn't what I was talking about because that lacks all morals and has little to do with using anything resembling good judgment. If they want to do that already they can. That is exactly what already happens. How many examples of "just tell it to a judge" do you need to hear? How many examples of people being arrested and the charges dropped because it was not a lawful arrest do you need to read about, where there is no repercussions and the actions are defended by the department? Of course it doesn't allow police to make up laws as they go. I never suggested they should just make up their own laws. That is exactly what I don't want to happen, though it already does. I am at a loss how you could have possibly thought I was suggesting police should be allowed to make up their own laws.

Welcome to the internet.

I find it more sad you don't have enough faith in law enforcement officers to decide themselves whether they think something is moral or not. I mean, do you think that law makers are more moral and than LEO's, or a jury for that matter?

So making bad laws is worse than enforcing bad laws? Interesting thought process. A law is meaningless without enforcement, so police enforcing bad laws are much more a direct source of a problem then a law maker, though I take issue with both. If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. - Thomas Jefferson

It is called civil disobedience. It is okay if you disagree with the tactic. Some people do. Some people don't. But it is okay to arrest them for that? Odd rationale. Sure it could have been handled differently. I was not involved. But the police have been known to target him specifically. That video that appears someone is planting something on him is pretty damning. I'm not sure exactly what he was arrested for, the rumor is 'resisting arrest'. That is a misdemeanor in PA. He is still being held.

Which law was he breaking. He wasn't smoking nor did he have any marijuana on him.

As demonstrated by these posts, this is another one of those vague, poorly worded, undefined areas that may or may not land you in legal land, depending on a number of factors that likely have nothing to do with the statute.

Dude, I'm pretty sure he was saying the same thing as you. Anybody could read it differently than you because you read it wrong. He isn't a mod. He doesn't lock threads. He was saying what happened, not that he agreed. You were arguing a point with someone who wasn't arguing against you.

Didn't you attend the pro-2A rally in Trenton? Are you an "attention whore" or just a hypocrite? I suppose the 1st Amendment is conditional to you...

Sickening. Absolutely disgusting.

BLF on his high horse stirring things up again? Who would have guessed?!?!

I don't disagree. That is honorable. It is unfortunate that the courts have ruled it isn't a requirement though. By law, there is no obligation to do so. I would hope most would still treat it as an obligation.

Correct. Castle Rock v. Gonzales Warren v. District of Columbia and others. Ordinarily. But when you consider that the other round killed an innocent victim, describing that as 'not too bad' is pretty disgusting.

I couldn't figure out what it meant by 'Orange Cop' at first. I thought we were talking about

Where else would you keep it? Rolling around on the seats? Your confusion confuses me.

What makes you think it wouldn't be? It is not like because the gun is in a case, and a bag, that it is some sort of double negative and they cancel each other out.

In NJ, I am a sheep (or is it shoop?) Outside of NJ I am just a shoop with a gun.

Wow....

Below is my 15 step process for cleaning firearms. Step one: Pick up firearms. Step two: Turn on shower to warm/hot temperature. Step three: Put down firearms. Step four: Take off clothes. Step five: Find towel, put on shower curtain rod. Step six: Re-pick back up firerms. Step seven: Enter shower. Step eight: Jump out of water, shout profanity. Step nine: Adjust water temperature from scolding hot to prefered warm/hot temperature. Step ten: Re-enter water. Step eleven: Generously apply Old Spice body wash to body and firearms. Step twelve: Lather. Step thirteen: Rinse off. Step fourteen: Turn off shower. Step fifteen: Dry everything off.

Fair point.

Doubtful that he had an FID but just as doubtful as that being the reason for the charge. You don't need one to possess a firearm.