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I don't think it should be a requirement at all, but I do see a happy compromise being I also understand that I don't want people who don't know how to handle a gun hurting people. Here is one that would take a little time to complete, but would not infringe on our 2A rights either. I say going through our school systems, they should have a semester of a side class that is required prior to graduating on gun handling. Will that happen, probably not, but it would satisfy training and not going against what is written in the 2A.

Pulled out my readers and still it was hard to read..

In the Southwest Rails are for Trains no guns...

Ray, what Shotty were you shooting, sweet looking shotty man..

LOL, yea yea, some of have to work now and then, just give me 4 years and 57 days when I can retire if I want and then we can talk about who shows up for stuff and who doesn't..

No it should not be part of the training NEEDED for CCW, I don't remember seeing anything in those 27 words that say anything to that effect. Now I will say, anyone who choses to carry, or anyone who owns firearms should take it upon themselves to get properly trained, but making it a requirements, well that's just unconstitutional..

Yes sad but entirely avoidable as you say if you follow the 4 basic rules of gun handling. Will something like this push Mag-disconnect, very doubtful. Either way, you can always mod a gun to get rid of that feature.

No help on the ID, but I must say, that's a very nice looking rifle and would like a few close up pic's of the wood. Look to be in pristine condition..

I would look at #1 upgrading the P2P's to at least 2, and not looking at a coversion, but a second gun. You sure can do under your 1K target price and have both and maybe a few buck for ammo left over. For a 22LR Semi I'd look at the Ruger MK II/III or GSG 1911-22. For the 9mm, I'd look hold and shoot the ones your thinking about and see what you like the best, same goes for the 22LR's, how and shoot to make your final decision.

Nice, Southwestern Tactical,,,

Oh, I agree, however A cover letter with the "origional Letter to the Chif" and NJ2AS a group that's fighting for our rights already would get a little more exposure with each of the PD's and maybe work out to be 2 fold, better compliance, and make the name and presents of the NJ2AS greater and more wide spread..

Got a new gun Alec???

I have said it before, if we didn't have this stupid P2P system and OGAM I would have bought 1 of each caliber handgun they have, just to have them.

The revolver crowed who know more than I will be around with some ideas and comment for you, but welcome to the forum.

Check out the OBRPC link in my signature and you can also look at CJRPC thats a little further south. A little coin the first year, but after that think of it as a buck a day to be a member of OB. Also OB has a 24/7 indoor range and I think CJ does also, but one of the members from there will chime in and confirm. To not I'd be a member of both if I have the time, but OB is just 10 minutes from my place so that why I picked that one, and the only reason.

Fantastic, glad to see you had a good time, also nice job getting your girl into it at the same time.

Actually it was a few of the girls that did do the 2A, but they picked the 19th, go figure, and I think there was one that picked another one but can't remember what my daughter told me..

Just wondering if it might be a good idea to see if the NJ2AS being they are running a compliance thread to maybe start a new one for P2P's and the lack of compliance in different towns limiting them. As we all know, there is no limit. Also many folks when confronted with this non compliance in their town, there are many that feel the if they were to bring the "Letter to the Chief" they might not get the same attention, or they PD will drag their feet on their permits. What I am wondering is if a new thread might be in order for people to post that their town in the past hasn't been doing it right and maybe the NJ2AS could intervene and send out the 6 page letter directly to the towns Chief and Firearms division to educate them. This way the the town get notification of the proper procedures, and the people in the town who are applying don't feel like they may be singled out and not processed in a timely manner. So what do you think, good idea, worth pursuing?

True, they are not taught real history. What was nice is my daughters class just had a project to to a report on their favorite Amendment. More than 80% of the class did it on the 2nd Amendment. Nice, very nice..

Nice, but I want to move to a state that doesn't have BS gun laws and in a warmer climate..

No matter what, we can never get lazy in our standing up for our rights no matter what. There will always be people who want to take them away. While I do doubt it will ever come to that, it isn't really out of the question. Remember how many other time through history this and similar things have happened. Think of what happened after, you would think someone who can think for them selves would have learned after the first time. Well you know how that went. Also don't forget every dominant power through history has crumbled over time, so with that in mind, it's time for us to learn, remember, and try and prevent history from repeating itself.

Now stop that...

Ok, so where is it and how much?? Usually when you have to ask,, well you know...

Found that out the hard way,,,Huh??? Luckily if you did you're close..

Don't forget what cold happen to the District and Circuit courts also.