MarkWVU02

That's why Santa preferred the cookies in Colorado and Washington

Funny thing is I know a lot of "liberal" gun owners as well as a lot of "conservative" people who are antis. Don't really know of this is really a conservative vs liberal issue as most of the liberal people I know who own guns are very pro-2A.

Doubt that as well. I've unfortunately had a ton friends arrested time after time for heroin, and when they get out of jail go right back to it. Funny part of it is many of them learn new connections in prison. Also once they have that record following them they have no chance of finding a job and either turn to crime or kill themselves with drugs. It's sad but true.

I highly doubt you could show me ten fold. You'd be surprised how many people smoke pot. I know doctors and lawyers who do and they're normal upstanding citizens that prefer a joint to a drink. Using the "gateway" drug analogy is a little outdated as well since it's not a proven theory. There's a reason marijuana reform is sweeping the country. It's basically because something fairly harmless is illegal. Look at alcohol deaths a year verse marijuana deaths a year. HUGE difference. Also look at the medicinal benefits of marijuana as well. I'm not arguing heroin, cocaine, and meth are awful drugs but give me a break on the marijuana. Our prohibition on marijuana dates back to a smear campaign based on propaganda not fact.

There's a great book called "The Rich Get Richer, The Poor Get Prison". It deals a lot with drug laws. Almost all drug related crime is due to illegality and cost. If you legalized it costs would come down this eliminating most of the crime associated with it. I understand your statement with hard drugs but have never heard of a pothead killing someone for their next fix. Think about how much we spend on the war on drugs. Put that money into drug education and treatment.

The problem is the guy that steals $500 from the banks gets a few years in jail...the guy that steals $5 million (the corrupt bankers) maybe get a few months.

I agree. Shame about those firemen. It's amazing that people can take advantage or harm people that are out there helping the community.

The cops are never wrong...didn't you know that. Funny thing was when my uncle died (LEO), I had some beers with the old timers between wakes. They kept telling me how much different the new generation of cop is. I'm not trying to call anyone out because from what I've heard BLF is a pretty good guy (a friend of mine works with him) but some of the points that people made were valid and censoring it seems a little ridiculous. I must say these threads quickly turn into us verse them rather quickly when in fact the reason we're here is we all have something in common. Let's face it, everyone makes mistakes...even cops.

I saw today he used a Bushmaster. Maybe the AR ban isn't far off. It seems kind of weird that all of a sudden every shooting involves an AR

People's posts get deleted on here now?

Well stated Hardlife

I got the Midwest Industries 2 Piece SS-series drop in rail for my AR. Haven't put it on yet but will post pics in the AR section when I do. The rail is insanely light.

Merry Christmas everyone. Hope everyone has a happy and safe holiday

Won't it be illegal for Dallas SWAT to transfer it to him?

I don't care what anybody does I just find it funny so many were saying boycott Dick's but when they have something they want they'll run over and purchase it.

I thought we were supposed to be "boycotting" Dick's haha

I think Woodentoe makes a great point. BLF said low ready and these were aimed with fingers on a trigger...huge difference. Most aren't arguing going onto the property and checking things out. I think low ready is fine considering the officers should be ready but the OP walked away from the guns in a non-threatening manor. On the public worker salary issue, as a teacher I here the same thing. You pay taxes, your taxes go to pay for services. Education and police are some of those services. You don't pay out salary you pay for those services. If you indeed "pay his salary" I'm wondering when the last time you mailed him a check was?

They are but when you look in the case of Connecticut this guy busted a window and gained access. When I go back to school after break I should take pictures of my school to show you how impossible it really is to secure it. It's not a school built in the 50's in fact it was built in 05. There's no way to stop a madman where I work. I volunteered to spearhead a committee that looks at securing my school and it's a daunting task because no matter how many steps we take we still cannot stop someone hell bent on attacking.

As Quel pointed out, schools have many points of entry/exit...securing them all would be a monumental task. The point is arming staff would be more a deterrent than something that would be used (school shootings are a rare occurrence). If we found staff willing to train (summer months) and qualify like police we'd have a viable solution.

Love my AR...glad I have a spare stripped lower in the waiting.

It's getting bad...here's the NY Times article on Cuomo's statement http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/cuomo-says-he-will-outline-gun-measures-next-month.html?_r=5& "Confiscation could be an option."

I bet if you asked, in almost every school in America you'd have at very least 1-3 teachers that were willing to volunteer to use their summers to train and their vacation to requalify. If police offered the training you'd have a win situation. I know there are a few teachers on here that would gladly volunteer their time to do this.

Thanks for posting Andy. That was a great read. Wish a lot of the antis would take the time to read it. My favorite quote: "Nobody has ever survived a gunfight and then said afterwards, “Darn, I wish I hadn’t brought all that extra ammo.”"

Well said

Just joined GOA. Now I'm a member of the NRA and GOA