MarkWVU02

Here we go...something we can all agree on haha. Maybe we should start getting some of us NJGFers elected around the state and start the change

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/235320/40/Fake-Trayvon-Martin-picture-circulates-on-the-web-image-actually-shows-a-different-person Here you go buddy

Awesome great pics. Just what I wanted. I'll get home around 6 and compare them to my AR. I'll let you know once I check.

I'd check the disconnecter and the hammer and trigger springs. My buddy had a reversed trigger spring and he'd get double taps and times when the trigger wouldn't reset. Once fixed he hadn't had a problem. It's really easy to reverse a spring or put one in where it looks fine but isn't. I would say my first inclination is that there's something wrong with the hammer and disconnecter not engaging. Let us know if you solve the problem and if you can post some picks looking down into the trigger group.

Charging handle wont lock back. It stays in place. Let me think about the ammo problem and get back to you.

I don't know what that had to do with this case. Zimmerman assaulted a police officer what does that mean?

I love how in one thread people attack a guy that's calling names and in another when someone doesn't agree we're labeled as "sheeple". I see a bad pattern on this forum. Either you agree with the 20-40 regular posters or you get attacked. It's pretty sad and it's why a lot of gun owners I know won't join the forum despite my efforts to get them to (they read through some posts and decided not to join). I've even talked to too business owners that wanted to sponsor the forum but have since changed their minds. Everyone has the right to their opinions and their theories as to what happened. You should respect that and debate in a civilized way. It's a shame us "adults" can't seem to do that.

Yeah civilians don't know how the real world works...get over yourself.

The Black Panther thing is ridiculous. Isn't putting a bounty on someone like a terroristic threat or something? I just think people want to see a fair trial. A lot of people can't imagine shooting someone and just walking. This case could go both ways really depending on who you believe. There are witnesses that saw things differently and there's also the gf who was on the phone with Martin at the time. It's an interesting case to follow.

Can we wait until Saturday like originally was planned? I wanted to wait until I got paid to order and I'm in for 4-8 mags.

They actually ran into each other while Martin was still on the phone with the girlfriend. She hears both of them and than a struggle. Like I said why stay on the phone when you're confronting a person?

Again you're taking Z's word on it. Who says he lost sight and doubled back he could've still been following. Maybe they ran into each other as Martin was trying to get away. We just don't know. You're stating your opinion as a fact when it really isn't.

Sorry guys. I agree. I love the female cop with the AR. Hilarious. I'll post some when I get to my computer.

Neither really is reality. You're doing the same thing the media is doing. Painting a picture that's not really truth. Either way both depictions are wrong.

So there's about 3 minutes we don't have accounted for although the gf states she hears a what sounded like a struggle.

So if it's 49% white what are the other breakdowns? So predominantly white neighborhood would be more correct.

It's just the same thing the media is doing only reversed. The truth is somewhere in the middle of this pictures. I have some photos of me posing all hardcore does that mean I'm a criminal? I don't find any humor in someone's death.

Probably not 51% black either. There are probably Hispanics and Asians. So probably a majority white still.

The phone records corroborate her story. The call ended 5 minutes before police arrive. There's so much we'll never know.

I like hearing the different opinions though and I'm glad this isn't turning into a name calling b*tch feat.

I could see if he was doing something wrong. He was just a black kid walking in a white neighborhood. That's the reason he was singled out in the first place.

I never said he was running away I said the opposite that he told his girlfriend he was walking faster. I guess you and I will differ on the calling the cops as a teenager. It's something I wouldn't have personally done and I know some people have a distrust of the police because they're scared of being profiled. I remember a story of a NY Giant that moved to Mahwah or some other upper class town in a great neighborhood. He went out for a run and the police followed him and started questioning him. He didn't have his ID since he was running and wound up getting taken in. I teach in Jersey City and I see their distrust of the police first hand. Just not something I see a 17 year old black kid doing.

You can come up with you're logical explanations and so can I. I wasn't saying you personally were defending him but from the 3 or so threads about this there are a lot of people who are. I'm pointing out my opinion and wondering why this wasn't handled differently. The unfortunate part is all we have to go on is Zimmerman's story...would live to hear Martin's side of it.

I've heard multiple times that people on neighborhood watch aren't supposed to be carrying a firearm. The 911 operator tells him they don't need him to follow. I've heard the tapes. He says he's following she says we don't need to do that. An undercover cop would identify himself. Martin asks why are you following me. Zimmerman says what are you doing here and a struggle ensues according to the girlfriend who was still on the phone at the time. Once again my opinion is he confronted him and somehow they started fighting. Martin being an athlete got the upper hand. Sounds like biting off more than you can chew to me and again is my opinion. My point to this whole thing was Zimmerman called 911. Officers were en route. He no longer has a reason to follow yet still does. I brought up the race thing because people keep posting stories of black in white murders on this board but the funny thing was all the articles I've read that we're posted resulted in convictions.

How do you get that? I said Martin is on the phone and then as he's trying to get away from the guy asks "why are you following me" as if he was being confronted. I'm sure when you were 17 your first inclination would've been to call the cops. Mine would be to walk faster and try to get away as he told his girlfriend he was doing. Who knows what happened Zimmerman could have tried to grab him and the kid laid him out. I can really see that happening as I've seen it done before. Like I said some weirdo is following me and now confronts me I think instinct sort of takes over. We can all have our opinions on the case and some will choose to look at the evidence differently all I offered was my opinion.