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They need a court order to take that card away from you, so keep it in your wallet.

When the handgun is siezed in a stop the owner must come forward to claim it or else the cops are keeping it and get cyrious as to what is going on. Therein is the problem. If it is loaned out to your son, if he says it is his they can call and check the NJ handgun records and see you bought it last and that there is no documented transfer to him. Both of you are then under arrest for transfer without permit. If you go to the poloce to claim it, then the outcome is the same for both of you because his possessing it proves you transferred it to him without a permit unless he pleads to stealing it and thus absolves you of culpability for transferring it. With a rifle at least such a misunderstanding can be fixed with a miraculously dated cert of eligibility being "found" but this can't be done with a handgun. So if your son borrows it and is stopped what would you recommend he say when asked if the handgun is his? No matter what he says he loses in such an instance. Not a position you want him to be in. It isn't worth it. Better off just going with him or giving him money to buy one rather than risk spending money on attorneys. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4

If there is a US version you won't find it as a parts kit. Parts kits are foreign guns that are minus the receiver or with a torch cut receiver because the receiver can't be imported. No reason to torch a US made Uzi into a parts kit - it would be a waste. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk now Free

Are you nuts? What NJ cop or judge is going to give you slack over an Uzi? Plus don't real Uzis shoot from an open bolt? ATF classifies those as as a machine gun whether or not they fire one or more shots per trigger pull. Needs a full redesign for closed bolt operation. A parts kit bolt will not work if you want to build one that fires from a closed bolt. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4

One question that it would be nice to see answered is if there is any example of someone in NJ transferring a gun to two people jointly, or to a corporation that has multiple officers or shareholders, like they do with Title II firearms (federally registered machine guns and such) in free states. Joint ownership of property is pretty settled under the law with regard to ordinary objects. So how is it that in NJ you can't execute a transfer conveying an indivisible interest to two or more people, or to a company? Now if anyone has an answer to that, I'd be all ears.

According to a Second Amendment Foundation email I just received, Aitken's appeal resulted in all charges other than the ammunition charge (presumably hollow point bullet charge) being dropped, and that he will be appealing the hollow point bullet charge to the US Supreme Court. This is good news - if the Supreme Court accepts this, it could result in a really good decision on nonsense gun laws. I mean, a felony based on the shape of a bullet? Preposterous! How could that stand up to any standard of review? What an opportunity to get a good decision.

Cheapo blades are hard to sharpen (they are cheap because their metallurgy is awful and hard to sharpen), so don't let your prior experience dissuade you from learning to sharpen. Not saying don't get your stuff professionally done, but at the same time keep developing your sharpening skills on some other blades you have. Eventually you will get good.

Just out of curiosity, why score them as minor? Aren't these .357 magnum revolvers that we are talking about?

I'd like to know as well. I just realized I can buy a PA hunting license online - they accept other states' hunter safety certification.

Although looking at it from a prosecutorial perspective, absent a confession or video tape of the work actually being done, it would be impossible to prove that the work that transformed the deactivated receiver into a working receiver was done in New Jersey or elsewhere, when it was done or who did it. Unless you put all of this info on the internet. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4

Now all we need is "Everyone Else Safety Act". Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4

Anyone see in the article that the army basically doesn't train on use of the handgun at all. They basically issue them, a soldier is lucky if they shot 100 rounds through it beforehand, if at all. That's nuts!

Let's look at the law. Here is the exemption that would allow it: -- (b) Directly to or from any target range, or other authorized place for the purpose of practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions, provided in all cases that during the course of the travel all firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section and the person has complied with all the provisions and requirements of Title 23 of the Revised Statutes and any amendments thereto and all rules and regulations promulgated thereunder; or -- Interestingly, it doesn't say what the other origin or destination is (it doesn't say, for instance, "from home to the range"). Thus it would seem that you could go from any place you can legally possess, to the range, and from the range to anywhere you can legally possess. So you can legally possess at Range No. 1 (which it would seem you can), therefore it would seem you can go "directly to" Range No. 2 from Range No. 1. Interesting. HOWEVER, if you have hollow point bullets, you might be in trouble if you bring them back from Range No. 2, because the law only exempts hollow point possession when going TO the range (presumably you are supposed to shoot them all) and doesn't exempt when you return FROM the range. From NJSP site: -- N.J.S.A 2C:39-3f(1) limits the possession of hollow nose ammunition. However, there is a general exception that allows for the purchase of this ammunition but restricts the possession of it to specified locations. This exception provides that: (2) Nothing is sub section f (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land . . . [N.J.S.A 26:39-3g (2)]. Thus a person may purchase this ammunition and keep it within the confines of his property. Sub section f (1) further exempts from the prohibited possession of hollow nose ammunition "persons engaged in activities pursuant to N.J.S.A 2C:39-6f. . . ." N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. (1). Activities contained in N.J.S.A 26:39-6f. can be broken down as follows: 1.A member of a rifle or pistol club organized under rules of the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and which filed its charter with the State Police; 2.A person engaged in hunting or target practice with a firearm legal for hunting in this State; 3.A person going directly to a target range, and; 4.A person going directly to an authorized place for "practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions." -- Moral of the story: Keep Evan Nappen's phone number on you.

That's ridiculous. I remember even the guy at Dick's who was showing it to me agreed it looked like they got the box wrong, looked to be full of lead bullets and not plated bullets. Wonder if the paint comes off in flakes in the barrel, or if the copper plating is stained black somehow instead of painted.

Palisades Interstate Park along the Hudson River north of the George Washington Bridge has great hiking trails, both on top of the cliff and down alongside the Hudson River. Also it has a really good cliff climb at the State Line Lookout - go down rock stairs and rocky paths from the top of the cliff down to the Hudson, then climb back up - 520 feet of ascent. You know you are in decent shape if you can make the climb without stopping.

The nicest thing you can do for anyone is to tell them for real when they screw up. If nobody tells you when you screw up, you will never know! My point in my post above was that you don't need to necessarily go to a gun store or a gunsmith when you have problems. Home Depot and Lowes is way more convenient to go to than a gun store because they are always open, and they have stuff you can use to get yourself out of a jam. When the original "throw it over the wall" thread was active, I sent a PM to the guy who did it, telling about how I had a similar problem once when hunting (Savage 99 with live round jammed in chamber, lever wouldn't open, trigger pulled and striker/firing pin resting on live primer that did not ignite, stuck in the middle of woods with 4x4 in upstate NY) and what I did to transport it safely to a gunsmith so they could take the gun apart and clear it, which they did the next morning. If you don't want to tell someone in public here that they messed up, you can always let them know in private via PM. I have to say this might be the first time that someone posted a malfunction live from the shooting range as it happened. That's pretty neat. Now I need to remember to put a brass rod in my bag of tools in case it happens to me.

You could have gone to the Home Depot next to Dick's and got a dowel or brass rod and hammer from them. The hardware store can usually bail you out of a jam.

Is that why they look like they are lead? I always thought these were a scam because the box says copper plated but you look at them and see no copper on the bullet, it looks like just a lead bullet like Thunderbolts. Is it that they are plated and THEN painted over the plating?

Now if you were a dual resident, if you have a house or an apartment or vacation property in a state that allows it, you could buy it. Or if you inherited it from someone in another state and kept it out of NJ, you are good to go.

Problem is a dealer can't sell you a rifle unless it is legal in both your state and the state of purchase. That is federal law. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4

Remember that independent of FOPA you are allowed under NJ law to transport to and from a range for target practice. Back in 2007 or 2008 I checked a handgun at the ticket counter at newark airport and was later called on the public address system in the airport and questioned by two plainclothes cops who held me while they examined it. They got my keys from me so they could take it out of the case. I said I was going to a convention and target practice, which was true because I already had the address to a range near where I was going. They let me go. I believe if I didn't say "target practice" right there I would have been arrested. The police wrer trying hard to intimidate me but I knew that once I said target practice I should be ok. I made sure to actually go to that range once I got there and shoot and keep the receipt and bring a shot up target back with me in case there was any question when i got back that I actually was going target shooting. Any time you travel you want to have NJ statutory exemptions fulfilled and ready to be substantiated. Taking rifles and shotguns ought not be a problem at Newark as long as you have a FID because with that card possession is legal in and of itself. Pistols are a problem if you are not ready with a legitimate exemption ready to use that bears scrutiny. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4

Also, you keeping a firm wrist and hard tight grip when you fire it? A light polymer frame auto is going to need a firmer grip than a big heavy steel revolver. Squeeze that grip till you can see the sights shaking from your grip, then back off just a little bit. Strangulate it. Keep that wrist firm and solid like iron.

What ammo are you using? You try changing it, in case you bought some bad ammo? Do any of the sights look way off to the side? Maybe you could post a picture of the sights. If the sights are roughly centered, and a change of ammo doesn't solve the problem, probably the thing to do is send it back to Beretta for them to look at.

Who knows? If ABC owns the land then John Smith doesn't own it right? If ABC goes bankrupt then Mr. Smith is going to argue he is not personally responsible for company debts. The law on that is clear. The company is entirely separate and company debts are not his debts. So saying he owns the land because a company owns the land, that is a stretch. The main point is who knows what a NJ judge is gonna decide? If the judges were gonna give benefit of the doubt we would have had wide interpretations of these laws years ago. Instead it seems every time there is a case judges decide the laws are narrower than we thought. So be careful before you start assuming stuff is legal. Look very carefully at what is allowed because there is no such thing as close enough in this state. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4

The statute allowing hollow points says they are allowed in or on a "dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him" Unlike the exemption governing firearms possession, the hollow point exemption does not say "place of business". So here's a hypothetical. John Smith is President and 100% owner of ABC Corporation, and ABC Corporation is the lessee on the lease for his office building where he works. Well, ABC Corporation leases theoffice, not John Smith. John Smith is a shareholder and President of ABC Corp, no more no less. The cops come after he just shot someone who was high on PCP and broke into the office and tried to rape his secretary. They find a 9mm pistol on Mr. Smith loaded with hollow point bullets. Can they arrest Mr. Smith for possessing the pistol? No, it is his place of business. He is owner of the company, it is his business, he is on solid legal ground possessing the pistol there. "Place of business" is a pretty wide term to interpret. A company president can certainly said to be doing business in the offices of a company he owns! John Smith may, however, be arrested for hollow point bullet possession. There is no exemption for place of business for hollow points. The only exemptions for hollow points are dwelling, owned land or possessed land. He is not in a dwelling (he doesn't live there, it is an office), he doesn't own the land (the landlord does), and he doesn't possess the land (ABC Corporation does). Moreover, there is no legal way that he could have actually brought the hollow point bullets to the office, because it's illegal to transport hollow points except "from place of purchase to said dwelling or land". So Mr. Smith has to keep his mouth shut about how he got the bullets to the office or else he is going to admit to a felony right there. John Smith is going to have to hire Evan Nappen and fight the hollow point charge and probably appeal it and maybe get a conviction along the way and his odds of having a reasonably broad interpretation of the law are questionable. He has to make the court find that even though ABC Corporation is the lessee, HE possesses the land. To make such a finding the court would have to maneuver itself around the barriers of real property law (possession of real property governed by a lease), contract law (the lease), and corporate law (separateness between the corporate entity and shareholders). If John Smith shot the rapist with a flat point .40 or a FMJ .45, he avoids the hollow point issue entirely. His secretary's statement to the police ties up the self defense claim. His possession of the gun is legal, and since the bullet is shaped in a politically correct shape, he has no problem. The coroner takes the body away, and he has his attorney work out an appropriate statement so the police can close the file. Which situation would you rather deal with?