kman

I just looked it up and you are right! To and from the range is OK. And what pisses me off is the last time I looked it up, I looked very hard and found the opposite, that only to the range was covered. These laws are maddening.

Correct. By default illegal unless you are in very narrow exceptions. And the exceptions for hollow points are even narrower than for a handgun. You can legally bring them from the store to your house, and from your house to the range, but you can't bring them back from the range. That's the law. How it is enforced is, of course, another issue. But that is the literal law. Advertising that you are going to meet someone halfway to sell HP ammo is essentially advertising to the police that you'd like to set up a felony collar for them. A policeman could arrange to meet you halfway and simply arrest you. Please be careful.

Anyone have an opinion on 4 cycle weedwhackers? Am thinking of getting one instead of a 2 cycle. Then no fuel oil mixing and I can get a leaf blower attachment for the weedwhacker.

Shooting while someone downrange? Not apologizing immediately but insisting that it's OK? GET THEIR BADGE NUMBER! They should be banned from the range forever. That should not happen twice, let alone once.

The buyer can buy them and bring them home from where they buy them. But you can't legally take them anywhere from your home other than directly to the range without committing a felony. Meeting halfway is a bad idea.

.22 still hard to get eh? This is nuts.

Many gun enthusiasts only make it to the range a few times a year. And if you buy high quality guns, you can put them in storage for years. Go less often you will enjoy it more. Your guns are not going to become obsolete and your ammo will last your lifetime in storage. Sounds like you want to do something more physical. Good for you.

From what I hear, Kroil will unstick anything.

I love 30-06 but if you are just starting 308 is a good idea. Plenty of inexpensive ammo available, and if you later want to branch out to a Ruger Scout Rifle or Mossberg MVP Patrol, or a M1A, you stay within the same caliber. Can't go wrong with 308. Since most that goes into long range accuracy is between the ears and in the bones and muscles of the person holding the rifle, don't discount getting a .22 rifle as well. Current ammo availability problems aside, nothing replaces .22 for getting lots of shots in, at low enough recoil so you can feel what you did for each shot and develop the right habits.

Here we go again. If you really read the law, you can take HP ammo to the range, but there is no provision in the law legalizing taking the ammo from the range back to your house if you don't shoot it all. Now has anyone ever been prosecuted over this? Not to my knowledge. But it's a felony if you bring it back, nothing to sneeze at. So you can buy it, immediately take it directly home, and keep it there forever, take it to the range, but don't bring it back. Don't bring it anywhere else. Don't bring it when you move. The stuff can never leave the house again or, if you bring it to the range, can never leave the range. Reasonable? More like ridiculous.

Also that provision doesn't say "directly" to target practice. Wider language which presumably allows for picking up friends and stopping to eat enroute and etc that you might not get away with under the other exemption which requires you to go "directly" to the range. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Have wondered how a corporation would purchase a rifle. How would the 4473 be filled out? And the COE form? How would the brady check work? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Encouraging! Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Better off donating whatever money you would have spent to get a TX permit instead to the NRA or SAF or some other similar organization. I think ultimately the only way we get carry rights in NJ is if we elect a republican president and get a republican senate, and then enact a broad scale reciprocity statute on the federal level. Once out of state people with permits can carry in NJ and NJ can't do anything about it, the political pressure to liberalize the issuance of carry permits will be too much for NJ to resist any further.

Bring it to the gunsmith and pay the gunsmith to ship it out and receive it back. Easier no stress and no wondering. Doesnt cost much more either. Everything else is stress and aggravation in this state. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Do you have software that makes these charts? What are you using? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

I think minimum barrel length and overall length is nj law too, otherwise people here would register short barrel rifles. No can do in nj so i think you need to add length to your flowchart. Very nice by the way!!!!!! Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

In upstate NY counties you have a decent chance of getting a handgun license without restrictiin which equates to a carry permit valid anywhere in the state but NYC. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Vote and donate to the NRA and other groups. Be successful in life so you can afford to donate more. Be good to your family and friends. Be a role model. Show the world by your example the virtue of your beliefs. That is all you can do. Complaining accomplishes nothing. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

My read is they didnt take the case because if they did the court's decision would not have been good for us. Means Justice Kennedy probably wouldn't sign on to a decent decision on bearing arms. Why would the conservative wing of the court take a case that they know they will lose? As for the liberal wing they don't want to take it because a decision eviscerating the right to bear arms would turn into a liability in the upcoming elections. This issue will not be decided conclusively until there are some new Supreme Court Justices appointed. Critical will be the next presidential election. In the next few years more good statistical data from new right to carry states will also become more and more helpful. Eventually perhaps we can hope that gun rights become a bipartisan issue and we are not held hostage to the red blue political dichotomy on this issue any more. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Unfortunately that is not human nature. People around the world spend all of their lives getting things wrong and misunderstanding things. You can get angry and argue with everyone and be arrogant about it but it doesn't change it. Do you argue with everyone you meet? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Things are hard in New Jersey because of the law itself, not because people try to keep from being ensnared in the law. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

And i have had range officers insist that the pass be pinned to whoever is shooting when they are shooting Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

They have to shoot under your supervision. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

If you mount shotgun on an ar, the shotgun might be an evil feature if it could be called a grenade launcher. But what if you mounted an AR on a pump shotgun? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk