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Not mine or any from the surrounding area!

Being a 10mm guy and hand-loader, if you're looking for a 10mm to hunt with I would personally ditch the thought of a Glock and seek out a long barrel S&W 610 with optic. If you hand-load 10mm, you have absolute endless possibilities for tailoring!

Until this last one, it was 3 weeks from filing with my PD to the stack of permits released by them. NJSP would send back exemption approval to my PD in 7-10 days maximum. My last exemption took 6 weeks, and I just picked up my permits Monday and got the NICS approval today.

With the incredible number of AR-15 rifles sold in weeks, the number of magazines that many have stated were 5yrs worth of inventory in days, and an absolutely unfathomable quantity of .223/5.56 sold... Someone want to run the numbers and probabilities on that???

IMPORTANT! Florida is cracking down on fingerprints card. They must prepared via an entity with a valid, recognized originating agency identification (ORI). There were far too many FL CCW "classes" going on with folks who indeed know how to take proper fingerprints, but not really supposed to be doing so. For those teaching the classes in NJ, you will find they generally have obtained services of an off-duty officer who has obtained permission from his agency/department to do so and use the ORI. I've heard this a number of times from fellow instructors who do the CCws too.

Nothing wrong with going by gut, and certainly you could have maybe checked out the other forums. Both sides have points, but I personally feel as the owner it's your choice as to whom you sell it. Having taught SD for a long, long time I always reiterate listen to that little voice/gut/or when the little hairs stand up.

Be present, have a voice, make it heard! I've called everyone I know in NJ who is a gun person and given them the info for this rally. Yes, our rally is tough because of a workday, and the government has picked our pocket deeper for 2013 so then please write, email and call your representatives, your government. I'll be going to rallies on the 19th and 20th organized by sportsmen in other states. If you can't be there in-person, be there in spirit and support with written and spoken word. We need solidarity as strong as the antis!

Who elects these ignorant people to represent them???

Appreciate the insight fellas. I don't want to post exactly what I paid for it as I may opt to sell it one or all of the forums I'm active in if those at my club don't want it. I made that mistake before a couple years ago and got low-balled to death because everyone knew what I paid 2 years prior and felt it "fair" they pay no more and forget transfer, etc. Nonetheless, given what you guys are shooting off the cuff, it sounds like I can get precisely what it cost me. It is a very nice, clean, accurate rifle that's vanilla and not decked out in tacti-cool.

LOL! I actually already own what I need in the AR-15 platform and wouldn't be without. If I didn't, it would be another story!

I could use some help in assigning a real value to a built .223 AR-15. It was professionally built by a gunsmith out of Kentucky. It is an A2 with 20” barrel at 1x7, fixed rifle stock, fixed carrying handle, and just irons. The upper is an FN piece complete with marked FNMI MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 barrel, FN marked sight post, and Cerro Forge keyhole on the receiver. The bolt carrier group is CMT/Stag as are the lower parts installed in an LRB Arms lower. Trigger is the standard single stage from the kit, but the gunsmith tweaked it to a super crisp 3# pull! I acquired this rifle as part of a deal to acquire a couple of other guns more important to my collection. I don’t want it, but had to take it because the deal was a take it all or take nothing. I believe I over-valued it in the deal, but was on the spot... Now I would like to understand what it is really worth, perhaps sans the crazy times… There are some folks who belong to my sportsman’s club that want to buy an AR-15 so I can sell it very quickly and I don’t want to gouge and cause any ill feelings. I hopefully will make close to what I paid for it… FWIW – I test fired the rifle when in Kentucky and it shoots beautifully!!! The rifle has LESS than 400 rounds through it. It belonged to a young ground pounder who is unfortunately no longer with us... So, what’s it worth? It's with my FFL so I'm not concerned with making it NJ legal as that's easy enough to compute, and a couple members of my club who want it actually live over the bridge now.

Hence the beauty of a Mark III. Shootable by most anyone, and why many, many instructors use it.

Shoots beautifully out of my 20" 1x7 twist FN barrel. Chronos high in my experience, but perfectly fine FMJ IMO. Wonder what's it's selling for these days... Last I had it, I paid $0.17/round from AIM.

jerseygti, She absolutely must try before any buy. So many people are recommending revolvers, and I often agree, but I've taught 100s of woman who cannot put the factory DA on them! If they're fighting the pull, they're not going to hit anything and give up fast! As with every student I've taught who has not fired a handgun before, I begin with a classic Ruger Mark III .22 to get the initial feel, build confidence, and remove excess fear. The Marks shoot well, no profound recoil at all, and light trigger pull. You can find them used everywhere and cheap as they're plentiful. Plus, everyone needs a .22 plinker! I'm not far from you, and am an NRA instructor. So we might be able to work something out where she could try a variety of firearms after some basic instruction from me.

Oh, I'm frustrated... However, it makes me mad as hell and ready to fight. I've got more than 30 years into a collection, and I will not go quietly. As a note from an RO, not all of us are bad. I for one will snap at you in a heartbeat if you are being unsafe or endangering others, but after I remove that threat I make sure to spend the time with you to effect positive change in a respectful, adult way. Believe me, I have seen every flavor so I know what you are saying. One way to defeat the chip-on-the-shoulder ones is to go get your credentials and make sure you wear 'em.

Ummm... Yeah, sure... I suppose they could just consult my wife considering she's a licensed psychologist, and a gun owner! I have to share the sentiment after tracking a couple of these down and reading their detail - 1) who the hell drafts these, and 2) it's an unbelieveable level of ignorance and total lack of education that went into a number of these, and I am not just talking with regards to firearms. Read them carefully and see what lawful rights they violate. Can anyone answer me this FACTUALLY, do any New Jersey LEOs have to undergo a psych eval and home inspections???

BUT you can do both! They want shooting sportsman from ANYWHERE to join them. Big numbers is what we need to start showing we of the legal, responsible gun owners have solidarity too! This rally doesn't infringe on typical working hours of many. Join us!!!

Good group of guys. I do NRA classes for them. They're looking well organized to push.

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You want to hear something funny? I have used them same NJ references since coming back to NJ. They're both gun people. My PD checks references every single exemption request, and every 3 permits under OGAM using a standard form. My references have photocopied a giant stack of completed forms and each time they get a request, pull out the form and sign and date it! It cracks me up! Both of them do not have local PDs, and go through the NJSP and I get a yearly call from the investigating trooper when they put in for permits.

Very excellent friend of mine does hydrographics right here in NJ. Can put big happy faces all over them to counter the evil!

Holy smokes! It would be easier for me to list the calibers I do not own... However, what I shoot the most are .22LR, .380ACP, .38spl, .357Mag, 9mm, .44Mag, and .45ACP. I reload most calibers I shoot.

Reference are required. It is up to the issuing PD as to how they get the reference. My local PD mails direct to references a standard form questionaire. Given the times, they want to make sure the references are legitimately responding without duress.

Expensive is probably the understatement of a lifetime as I ponder my collection... +1 Topher for a great way to treat a noob!