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If you can stand the drive and gun shop commandos, Hague's in West Deptford, Gloucester County has them to rent.

Where did the NJ LEO trade-ins must go overseas come from? I'd like to see that "law" considering I own 3 NJSP pistols with the last acquired this past summer. OP, go for a well-priced LEO trade-in! They can be rough on finish at times, but regularly mechanically sound. Sometimes you get some very unusual variants that were special orders for the particular department or agency too. I've got several Smiths that fall into that category thanks to Conrail police and the Treasury Dept. for instance. Also, I've got several Smith 27s and some really nice Ruger Security and Service Six revolvers that make for perfect shooters!

Well, I have been an RO at several ranges and you'd never see me give that advise! You need not have any proof of ownership of a specific firearm with you. However, you should have proof of the ability to legally own a firearm in the form of showing your FPID. I'd be in deep trouble if I had to produce so-called proof of ownership of all my firearms as much of my collection was bought in free States (ala, no permit required) and some really, really old pieces through inheritance whose lineage would only be known to me at this point.

I'm a Sig enthusiast to a pretty extreme degree and you will NOT find a single POS CheckMate in my collection INCLUDING some recent productions I have that Sig shipped with CheckMates as factory! I got rid of them as karmas so I wouldn't feel bad charging anyone for junk! OK, if it's not obvious I've had horrible, horrible experience with CheckMate magazines and only run MecGars.

No, not at all. Paul has a much better explaination somewhere on the board, but it goes like this in gist. With NICS, you can only do one of those in 30 days too, and that has nothing to do with NJ. So if you're buying two new guns, and month #1 you did one NICS and paperwork and returned on day 29 for the second and started the NICS you will get a rejected or the limbo status. No big deal, it'll go through when you go back. So, this actually helps you abide by NJ OGAM with new purchases from FFLs. Where you get in trouble, and can say goodbye to purchasing and face some legal problems is if you go and do either one new purchase with a NICS and then short of 30 days do a FTF with an NJ resident = SUNK, or do more than one FTF with NJ residents within 30 days = SUNK. You still use purchase permits for FTF in NJ, and someone, believe it or not, DOES check the permit dates.

EVERY gun enthusiast needs to shoot a .50 at least once! My FFL bought himself an 82A1, well, just because he could. Struck a deal with him - he brings the gun and ammo, and I supply the place to shoot it at no charge. Former gravel and sand surface mine in PA that I am currently reclaiming under the conditions of the mine permit for private owner, an avid big game hunter, make a perfect range with nice steep high wall and no-one around. All I had to say to the owner was "50 cal"! Three grown men acting like giddy school girls at their first dance after shooting that thing! Simply AWESOME!

Yes sir, I am! I was born and raised here in NJ, but then spent much of my teens, college years, and a chunk of my professional life in free States. However, the economic shift in the US brought me back to NJ when my company gave me an offer I couldn't refuse to return... Glad to see you're a member at SJSC.

Yeah, that would not happen. You have to justify the exemption to them, and with the exception of matched pairs/consecutive serials of new production guns, the NJSP has been known to not approve an exemption request for current production models. I can tell you at least one of the Sgts is up on his Sigs too because he questioned one gun out of a very long exemption list of mine, which was a 2011 production gun; however, I purchased it as a condition of acquiring the collection = all good with the NJSP. Since sold that one as a matter of fact...

Doesn't have to, they only ask if long gun or handgun. BUT In NJ, when your FFL calls in with and exemption transfer, the paperwork is already in front of the NICS operator. Takes no time at all for that, it's doing all the individual permits! I'm kind to my FFL and provide him with a typed sheet of all being transferred to attach to the ATF form at least.

Welcome neighbor (literally)! Now move a state over while you're still young and buy firearms without the NJ torment AND enjoy resident concealed carry!

As collectors, sometimes we buy the entire collection! I have done 4 exemptions this year after learning the process and one was a doosey! No problem at all with the NJSP's approval. Paperwork needs to be in order, and your explanation for the exemption concise and factual, and you gotta have an FFL willing to work with you because they have to sign-off on the SP-016.

I decided for giggles to pick a P238 out of the rental arsenal when I was down in Houston shooting with a buddy. I have to tell you, I was absolutely blown away with the performance of the Mustang clone! I've got huge hands and had no issue firmly gripping it with the standard magazine. In fact, it is the only modern subcompact that feels good in my hands! This is no up-close-so-who-cares-about-accuracy pocket gun either! Standing, two-hand, 10 yard, FMJ-cheap range ammo and I was 3.25", which I felt impressive for the little mouse gun! I was so impressed that I had a P238 HD - night sights and G10s with an extra 6-rd and two 7-rd mags - delivered to my FFL before I even got back to Jersey! I've almost put 400 rounds of Rem FMJ and Hydra-Shoks and only 1 FTF (bad primer). The trigger on the HD is not as smooth as the well-worn rental so I'll probably clean it up a bit and maybe go with a lighter spring to further enhance repeatable accuracy. Great little mouser!

My gun "closet" is enormous so I wouldn't care... In reality, I'm a proud gun owner/collector/competitor/instructor. You won't find me on social media of any sort beyond these forums, and I don't have any stickers whatsoever on my vehicles because I'm way to Type A for that. However, if you meet me in person, you'll see either an NRA Life Member or NRA Certified Instructor lapel pin on my coats, not uncommonly find me wearing a S&W cap, and regularly see me drinking my coffee in the office from one NRA mug or the other. Just like anything else, I judge my audience. Personally, I feel a responsible gun owner is one who is not in your face about it. I also have the same expectation for religious beliefs - it's a personal choice and I don't care to hear your opinion on it and don't try to jam it down my throat. Infringe on my rights - ANY of them - and I'm in the front of the line standing my ground.

Shhhh.... Don't let the cat out of the bag! It's a nice range, and some of the best range officers and they allow no shenanigans! Only downside is the hit or miss hours during the week.

Yeah, Range 14 is a haul, but it can be a lot of fun if you pick the right day. Practically have it to yourself, inexpensive, and can shoot just about anything. We're definitely lacking in our area. A couple years back an group tried to get permitting to construct a nice range along the Delaware in Logan Township on an old environmental site but the community wasn't having it even though NO-ONE lives within about 2 miles of it!

Sadly no. Six non-resident permits these days - the two usuals Utah and Florida - and then New England states in which I regularly camp. I was born and raised here in NJ, but spent many years elsewhere and miss the luxory of some of those resident permits, particularly WVa, which is the last I had to surrender.

Ain't that the truth! I've never seen the level of greed as that. Most of all the old members there under the original owner went down to Bob's in Glassboro. Too bad that's generally a zoo for those of us shooting around employment hours! Are you looking strictly indoor range? If not, Squared Circle isn't far from us and a membership run will come up early in the year and you can shoot pistol/rifle/shotgun, within their rules. Delran not awful far, but your shotgun is limited to trap or some extra use of the patterning set. I've got family down in Pittsgrove and got my lifetime back at USANA after twisting Skip's arm a bit, and been thinking about joining Quinton, but questioning their membership process, as a lot of fellas I've shot with over the years (and who were alienated by Skip's sell-out to Harborsite) belong there.

Yeah, Paul she's something else with a shotgun! She's also Irish and a redhead = DOOM!

BenchMade Griptilian.

Nascar - just noticed we're neighbors! I live a stone's throw from Hague's, but you won't find me in there with those prices! Used to be a member under the original owner, but now everything is full retail plus markup. Anyway, should you want to try out larger caliber handguns...

I vote for for the 686. Buy an last dash before the lock in 4" to be the most versatile. Find a 3" CS-1 686 and they'll have to pry it from your cold, dead hands. Affordable to run .38Spl through for practicing the trigger - the more you pull a Smith, the smoother it gets!

Thanks! I may be being a bit harsh because that requirement, in my opinion and experience (and I've dealt with a few contracts), is a bit much, and that no-one has returned any of the 3 inquiries I made.

I was considering membership as I have a sponsor that's been a member for a long, long time. Reviewing the membership application, I come across the requirement for a background check... WHY? My sponsor never had this requirement! First, anyone with a FPID has gone through a sufficient background check. OK, you may argue that someone's FPID was issued long ago. Fine, ask to see a newer Handgun Purchase Permit since the local PD or NJSP will have checked out more currently = done. Why is that not acceptable and they expect you to turn over all of your personal information for a background check with a 3rd party provider and have you sign a waiver that holds that provider completely harmless, which is also an LLC, and the waiver does not spell out to whom or how this information will be provided and makes no guarantee of unscrupulous or illegal use of the data! I'd gladly show any of my CCW permits, my PFID, a permit, but no way in heck am I going to provide some unknown 3rd party investigative service enough private information they can open accounts and take my identity with so I can shoot at a private club! I've never, ever seen this before at the private club I currently belong to or any of the ranges I belong to. Fellow forum members and members at Quinton, please tell me this isn't so! No-one at Quinton has responded to my calls about this.

You don't say what your local PD is - someone here likely can advise you on specifics with them. When you apply for your FPID, you can apply for purchase permits at the same time (checkbox is right on the form) and I would do so as the wait time in some areas is incredible! In NJ, you can only purchase one handgun per month, and each permit is good for 90 days. If your PD will accept a request for 6 permits, that will give you 6 months worth of gun shopping because you can have the 3 not useable within the 90 days extended another 90 days. If you are a collector like me, there is an exemption mechanism to purchase more than one handgun a month that requires filing the correct paperwork, having and FFL to work with, and waiting for the approval of the New Jersey State Police. The clerk in my local PD an absolute BEAR and her personal opinion on private gun ownership obvious. The Chief is 180 degrees different! I've also had nothing but terrific interaction with the Sgts and support staff at the NJSP Firearms Investigation Unit in Trenton when I had to issues with the local process and my subsequent collector exemptions.

Yeah, I order much of mine online as well, but shipping has been getting worse and availability of some of what I prefer to shoot in certain calibers has been pretty poor.