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I'd like to share with you all the response of a 40-year, voting citizen of NJ who sits generally neutral, did not attend, but listened to the proceedings after I sent him the link via email and only the subject header of "You might find this interesting": This is why EVERYONE needs to hear about how their government is really being run!

Most excellent! I saw that cameraman several times, and I'm glad he was there on our side and hope more of the footage rolls out.

Tell me April fools is early this year...

If you check my other post, I've gone behind the scenes to other legislators today and had some frank discussions - some I really didn't care for but can respect the differing position given they gave me a moment of their time, and others were informative. Word has spread about the farce yesterday and Mainor's lack of decorum and the attempt to side-step the process (even if their minds were made up) given the unprecedented turnout and unprecedented number of Bills, and there are serious criticisms occuring within the legislature as a result. To quote one, "the turnout of was something to make real note of. Serious note of." Keep fighting everyone!

They're poking harder with the stick... What will become when the sleeping giant awakens...

I spent the afternoon doing everything I could to get in touch with legislators across this State that I've interacted with the last several years through my line of work... I can tell you out of my conversations today that 1) behind the scenes Cryan and Weinberg are trying to strong-arm fence sitters (no surprise, I'm sure); 2) word has spread about the farce yesterday and Mainor's lack of decorum and the attempt to side-step the process (even if their minds were made up) given the unprecedented turnout and unprecedented number of Bills; 3) there is serious concern for good legislation being tabled to rush gun control through; and 4) some are definite gun-grabbers and their minds are completely closed! As a result, I implore each and every one of you to write a letter to your Assembly representatives IMMEDIATELY and please cater what you write to the Bills that will be voted next week - list them specifically and be brief with your reason for objection. Try to make it a technical argument and not solely on the infringement of our 2A Right. Give them cause to vote with us and fodder to use against their fellow Assembly members! To be effective, I suggest write no more than 1 page, lots of white space remaining, and please be sure to include your contact information. Again, make this a written letter and mail tomorrow to their local offices. At this point, emails are being dumped in mass due to inbox limits. Call takers are just striking off for/against if anything at all. I have been told when the fax machines run out of paper, they are simply shutting them off and resetting them and losing everything in memory. Thus, let's resort to old-fashioned snail mail! Those who need help finding their legislators, use this: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/legsearch.asp

The process folks: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/legislativepub/legprocess.asp

WHEW! NO voting. Only formaility to get the Bills from yesterday appropriately amended, which suggests the voting will be done next Thursday! BURN UP the phone, fax, and emails!!!

I am listening, and guess what guys THEY ARE being heard, BUT the ones I've heard so far are being moved for Amendment/Second Reading.

Yes, they were supposed to vote the Bills heard in Committee yesterday, TODAY on the Floor based on what I overheard! Disgraceful ramrodding of legislation if this is true. The real rub is that none of the Gun Control Bills were on the voting session list for today... Here's the live feed, and so far only covering what was to be voted per session list. Don't know if this is going over into a special session or what. Otherwise, I would have thought they'd be voted on in the voting session on the 21st. http://www.njleg.sta.../live_audio.asp

Oh yes, you are correct! I forgot about that additional point of amendment.

Have a look at RRA 1911s in that case.

It will be posted, if not already, on the NJ Leg site. Don't get your hopes up, the Amendment is nothing more than to correct where they missed striking the 15 and replacing it with 10 in the one location. What was to be amended was spoken yesterday. EDIT: I checked and the amended version is still not posted. Normal procedure is for it to be posted before discussed on the Floor. However, the Assembly has NEVER handled so many Bills at once and they all seem overwhelmed by it (except those supporting the ramrod).

Haven't talked to Skip since last meeting so I don't know, but if you give a call down, particularly first thing in the morning, you can reach Skip. I do know we've been running membership/orientations on some weekends, but don't know what's he's lined up for Feb.

FFLs may chime in, but I am certain they are not processing NICS in order they are received. It's more like however the pile gets picked up off the floor after it overflows the fax machine... My FFL has gotten ones faxed in 2 minutes apart returned with 3 days difference between them.

She sat right next to Gerry and I. She was a hoot and a half, but had some solid background and came prepared with facts and her voice could project - not sure if that's because she was a teacher for 40+ years or an RSO!!!

As-is, no grandfather. I argue that there is a very good legal case against capacity limits based on SCOTUS recent ruling. It will be a fight in the courts.

Yes, that was the gentleman! Zero response from the Committee when he asked them, and then when he told them we in the audience applauded given the salient point raised! I'd say that was somewhere around the 4th hour.

Hmmm... The lady? Don't remember a lady quoting it. The gentleman that did though, while not the most polished speaker, was well-armed!

Skip PA with the current legislative environment looking to press Gun Control hard. I think NC your best bet IMO.

Nothing satellite TV could fix for the trade of excellent CCW laws, Castle Doctrine, lots of space, and lower cost living! I was on a project close to Bountiful for a little over a year, and the presence of the Mormon church abounds. However, the people are truthfully incredible - warm, genuine, and kind. Would certainly be a shock to anyone from the great Philly-NYC metro!

No connections, but they definitely have more footage. They were there a long while, longer than two of the majors. I sat diagonally across from the camera position. Quite honestly there were few out of hundreds wearing any. Generally, the camo was NRA hats or people's coats, and I saw a few camo caps with the Gadsden and American Flag. A couple had some patriotic garb on such as the Korean War vet and Revolutionary War reinactor - had period outfit on, saw a fellow with the Gadsden on his coat, also saw a fellow wearing an American Flag shirt. For the most part, people were dressed in business casual, daily dress, and suits.

Yeah, that's correct. There is no media in NJ it would seem that has any desire to be neutral and report facts.

Anyone have the list of Mayors? Even though I'm entrenched in the anti District 3, I'm fairly certain that the mayor of my borough and the mayor from the neighboring boro wouldn't sign the non-sense. If they did, I would need to revoke membership to the range!

Most Utah ranges are $6. I absolutely loved the Bountiful Lion's Club range when I was out there! Excellently maintained!