Old Glock guy

Congratulations and good luck to you!

Congratulations on the birth of your new son!

Not that I would ever even consider doing this, but has anyone ever been arrested and prosecuted for stopping on the way home from the range for a cup of coffee, or worse yet, for getting something to eat?

When I read the title, I thought they were going to close the tunnel to traffic so we could shoot down there. What a disappointment!

Mipafox, what do you feel are the factors responsible for your dramatic improvement? Lunker, besides watching your diet, do you get out for some exercise? Just walking for a half hour or so a day will do wonders for you physically, as well as mentally. Good luck to both of you!

Vlad, you seem to be an extremely knowledgeable poster for whom I have a great deal of respect. I've enjoyed many of your informed and informative posts. But I think you've missed the point here. In this thread we were discussing what would happen in the case of a disaster if the government decided to confiscate our guns. In that scenario, it would not matter how good our public relations were. I was simply offering some suggestions to help in dealing with that unlikely contingency.

Thanks Harry. That's good to know.

I'm a little embarrassed to admit that I've given this thread some thought, but I have, so here's what I've been thinking. If things went bad, and police or MP's were going door to door, checking records and confiscating guns, the prudent thing to do would probably be to not open the door, as some have suggested. On the other hand, one might be concerned in that situation that they had something important to relay, so you might want to hear what's going on. If they then stated that they were confiscating guns, you might try replying with one of the suggestions offered, "I gave them to the last guy...", "They're at the gunsmith...", "Tragic boating accident...", etc. Any of those would probably be met with, "Well then you won't mind if we have a look around." When you ask to see the warrant, their reply would likely be, "Sir, martial law has been declared, so we don't need one. Please step aside." Now admittedly, I'm no expert on this, but I would guess that they would proceed to go through your house with a metal detector. I don't think they would be able to spend more than 5-10 minutes, 15 at most, since they would have a lot of ground to cover. So the trick would be to hide your firearms well enough that they would not be found in such a quick search. To paraphrase Harvey Keitel as The Cleaner in Pulp Fiction, "These measures will be enough to deceive the casual observer. A closer inspection would see through the subterfuge." I'll admit that I spent a few minutes looking around my house for hiding places. I don't want to get too specific, since there is no way to know who might read this thread in the future, so let's just say that I found places in and around metal objects in my home that would likely be missed in a casual inspection. You might just want to take a look around your home if this is something that concerns you.

I have not yet obtained any specific ammo for home defense. Would those with more knowledge than I have think that .40 S&W target ammo would have sufficient stopping power to neutralize the threat of an invader? As people have noted on other threads, whether the BG lives or dies is immaterial to whether or not one would come under legal scrutiny. Someone noted elsewhere that if you use HP ammo, a prosecutor or plaintiff's attorney would be likely to ask, "Isn't it true Old Glock guy that you used bullets specifically designed to kill or cause maximum damage?" In truth, if it ever came to that, I would probably feel better if the perp lived. But if threatened, I would still shoot at COM. Just wondering if target ammo would be enough to get the job done, while giving the BG a fighting chance to survive.

I started with .40 S&W in a Glock 23, and was able to get a feel for it fairly quickly with no prior experience. On the other hand, I just picked up a Glock 19 yesterday and definitely found the 9mm a little easier to handle.

Are the sights fairly easy to install, or is it something that should be done by a gunsmith for those of us unwilling to get into anything too complicated?

Thanks for your reply. That looks really nice. Good luck with it!

BigBlueQ, I've been weighing the Remington 870 against the Mossberg as well. What what into your choosing one over the other?

I was also going to take a ride up to Cherry Ridge this Sunday to join. Is there a limit to how many members they accept?

I'm seriously considering getting a set of the Tech Sights. So you would recommend the 100's over the 200's? Does that seem to be the consensus? Was it much of a job to attach them? I'm not one for getting involved with complicated projects, but if it's just a matter of screwing them on, that might not be too bad.

Coincidentally, I just got one a few days ago as well. Shot it for the first time yesterday. I didn't have much time, so I just emptied a few mags. Lots of fun to shoot. Was hoping to spend some more time with it today, but plans didn't work out. Which model did you get? Mine is the carbine. I like its classic look. I don't anticipate using it for anything but target shooting. Can't believe how inexpensive the ammo is compared to the 9mm and .40 S&W that I've been buying.

Turned out to be a moot point to me, because my local PD was closed today, so I couldn't even pick up the permits.

Well doesn't that just suck for me! I got the notice in the mail yesterday that my P2P's are finally ready (nearly 7 weeks later). I'm doing a happy dance, thinking that I'll have a chance to rescue my Glock 19 from protective custody today, assuming my local police HQ is open today; and then I remembered this thread. So now it looks like it's not going to happen until next week.

...Ruger 10/22, my first long gun. I had been thinking of getting one for awhile. Took a look at one yesterday at the BH, and said WTF (not literally), I'll take it. Just a few minutes of paperwork and I was out the door with it. What a contrast from the legal morass involved with obtaining handguns. I bought a Glock 19 recently, but I only get to visit with it once in awhile. It's being held in protective custody while my local PD determines that I'm not a danger to the citizens of the state of NJ (going on seven weeks now). I chose the R 10/22 because I thought I should have some kind of rifle, and I've read that it's a classic that everyone should own. I got the carbine, because I like its traditional look. I think it will be fun for target shooting, especially when I get around to joining Cherry Ridge. Plus, it could be useful in case of a zombie uprising,as someone noted on another thread, both to keep them at bay and to hunt small game if things get really bad. I hope to get a Mossberg 500 before long, mostly for HD. I'm attending a training session at GFH tomorrow, and I hope to pick one up soon after that. I don't envision myself shooting clays, so I'll probably just shoot it a bit to get comfortable with it, then put it away somewhere. My other two P2P's will go for a Beretta 92A1 and one more handgun still TBD. After that, I think I'll be all set. For awhile.

They both look great! Lots of luck with them.

I've heard Ballistol is good, but I haven't gotten around to trying it yet. http://www.ballistol.com/

I'm pretty sure that once they declare martial law, that supercedes the Constitution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law Scary thought, but that's the way it would be. Is it worth the necessary time and effort to prepare for such an eventuality? I suppose that's for each of us to decide.

No, definitely not questioning your Ka-Bar's ability to TCB! I was just poking a bit of good-natured fun at you, as I visualized the array of handguns, shotguns, and knives on your nightstand. I'm probably just feeling a little inadequate, thinking about my lonely (for now) Glock 23 sitting by my bed. Hey, would that Ka-Bar be a good choice as a utility blade, in the unlikely case of a survival scenario?

Ray, do you live in a really, really bad neighborhood?

I sure hope you're right. Holy crap, wouldn't it suck to have to give up our guns just when we need them the most? Naively, I hadn't even considered that possibility. Next thing you know, you're going to tell me that they're going to confiscate our gold. Oh wait, they did they once, didn't they.