Old Glock guy

Wow, totally with you on the first four sentences, including having the 23 first, then adding the 19. However, it may just be that I'm sentimental, but I have no plans to get rid of the 23. I must be getting used to shooting it, because it doesn't seem as uncomfortable anymore. Plus, I think it might have a slight edge in HD effectiveness.

Ditto.

Looks like you have the carbine, same as I do. Note that it comes in three different configurations: http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Carbine/models.html Take a look at the wooden stock. It may be more of what you're looking for, although I'm pretty sure it's the same length as yours.

Jon, I'm with you on that. If we ever attain the Holy Grail of being allowed to carry in NJ, I would view my firearm as a tool to help defend myself, not as a means to be judge and jury.

Strong words, particular from a moderator! I'm not sure that I love the analogy myself, but people getting killed were not central to the civil rights movement. We already had laws in place against lynchings and other murders. The whole CRM was about assuring that a large group of people would receive equal protection under the law. It's not really equivalent to 2A issues, but there are some similarities IMHO.

Which model do you have? I have the carbine, which has a wooden stock that gives it a nice, classic look. Perhaps you could switch out your stock for one of those?

Thanks for the input. I made the drive on Friday evening, and it took almost three hours, so I probably would have either been late to arrive and/or exhausted if I had done it the next morning. Kept the HG in the room with me overnight. The place was a bit sketchy, so it would have been a good idea to keep it ready, but I can't say what I did, since I have no way of knowing who might be reading this. Also, it seemed like it would have been unreasonable to skip dinner, then breakfast and lunch the next day because I had the HG with me. Again, reluctant to say how I handled it, other than it's a shame that NJ laws might cause law-abiding citizens like us to potentially face criminal charges for what would seem to be reasonable actions.

Ever read Catch 22? Because it sounds a lot like that. BTW, if I had my shotgun with me (which I usually don't), and found myself in a legitimately life-threatening situation, like being confronted by a hostile, rioting mob, I might take a chance and use it. Just sayin'. Oh, and BTW, what's the deal about collapsible stocks? What is it about them that makes them an "evil feature"?

Sounds like the OP's prayers are about to be answered!

Welcome. See you at CR. I'm there a lot.

OMG, I'm out of control! Just received 1000 rounds a couple of days ago, but couldn't resist this bargain, so I just placed an order. Thanks for posting it.

As Bruce Willis once said, "Zed's dead!"

I can only hope! But I'll be sure to support you either way. Looking forward to your opening. Please keep us posted on your progress.

Funny coincidence for me: I'm almost exactly a half hour away from both Cherry Ridge and the Bullethole, and it looks like I'm going to be the same distance from your new place. I guess things could be a lot worse. Even though I anticipate continuing to do a lot of my shooting at Cherry Ridge, it will sure be great to have a nice indoor alternative.

I find that I can shoot decent groups into a 12" target at both 50 and 100 yards with my 10/22 equipped with Tech Sights. I'm definitely not winning any marksmanship contests, but I'm getting good enough to keep the zombies at bay. While my 15-22 is great fun to shoot, I find it to be far less accurate. I was thinking that since I've had the latter for a shorter time, perhaps I had not yet fully sighted it in, or I just was not familiar enough with it. Then I heard a comment on a show on the Outdoor Channel that the 15-22 was in "the middle of the pack" for accuracy. Anyone care to comment on this?

LOL to that! Yeah, it was really mostly a running event with 2-3 minutes of shooting thrown in, so probably not real appealing to most of the folks here. Anyway, thanks for reading.

Just picked up my Mossberg 500 Persuader on Saturday, and that's exactly how I have it loaded. Put 25 rounds of 2 3/4" 00 buckshot through it right after I picked it up, just to get the feel of it. Not a real joy to shoot, but seems like it's a great HD/SD/SHTF weapon.

In case anyone is interested, here's what happened at the NJ Biathlon event at Cherry Ridge this past Saturday: About 30 of us showed up in the morning for the event. The ten of us who were first-timers had an orientation meeting, where we watched a DVD which explained the sport, and discussed shooting techniques and safety. We then had a chance to practice with the rifles. They were bolt-action Marlins (didn't catch the exact model) in .22LR with double ringed sights. Some of the more experienced competitors had their own rifles, but most of us used the equipment provided. I was a little disappointed, because I was hoping to use my trusty 10/22, but its semi-auto action would have given me an unfair advantage. Starting at 10:00, we were sent off in pairs every minute (to spread us out for the limited number of shooting spaces on the range). We ran from the 100 yard range, out to the range entrance at Canistear Road and back, which was just over a mile up and down a pretty good hill (that I've never noticed when driving my car!). When we returned to the range, we fired five shots at 11.5 cm (just over 5") knockdown targets, at 25 meters for the Sport division or 50 meters for the elite Match group, from a prone position. For every miss, we were required to complete a 70 meter penalty loop. Then it was back onto the same out and back on Range Road that we did the first time. (Normally, the runs are held on trails, but the surfaces were trashed from the deluge the day before.) When we got back to the range, we took another five shots, this time from a standing position. Again, a penalty loop was required for each miss. Then it was one more time on the road loop to the finish line back at the range. I shot crappy, hitting only 3 of 10 targets, but each penalty loop only took about 20 seconds, so my relatively strong running allowed me to place pretty well. It looked like most of the other guys were more shooters than runners, so the hilly loop gave me an advantage. Everyone seemed to enjoy it, including national champion Doug Hoover, who drove out from western PA to compete. Race organization was excellent, and almost everyone hung around afterward to enjoy the ample refreshments and rehash the race.

RTSP, good luck with your project. As you can tell from the comments here, the climate is ripe for a new range to be successful in north Jersey. So you're hoping for a fall opening?

I believe that's all provided with the registration fee, but I'm bringing mine along anyway, so I can shoot afterward. Looks like they have events planned for August and October, so perhaps your friends can plan on those. I'll be interested to see what trails we run on up there. Sure hope they don't go behind the ranges! Someone else posted the link for further info, but here it is again: www.njbiathlon.com

As Dave Barry would say, "Jews with Guns" would make a great name for a rock band. And I'm going to go donate $25 to NJ2AS as penance for saying that.

I'm looking forward to this event that combines my two favorite activities: running and shooting. (Unfortunately, it's rifles, not handguns.) Anyone else competing? I'll probably stick around afterward to watch the rest of you guys split 2 x 4's.

Sorry I couldn't make it down to the meeting last night. How was it? Also, where and when is the next one, as I'm going to try really hard to get there.

Guys, thanks for your helpful replies. That's kind of what I surmised, but I appreciate your supporting opinions. Kenw, I agree with you that it's a shame that we even have to be asking these kinds of questions all the time.

I plan to attend a GFH course in south Jersey in a couple of weeks, about two and a half hours from where I live. (They're not giving the same course in this area until next month.) If I drive down the night before and stay in a hotel, will I be in violation of NJ law? Which would be better, keeping my HG in the car or bringing it into my room. Having to drive 2 1/2 hours for a 9:00 AM course could be done, I guess; but I would prefer to be there the night before so I can be refreshed and rested the next morning.