Old Glock guy

Not exactly on topic, but related to this, I've been wondering if NJ LEO's are receiving any special training on dealing with armed citizens, something they have not had to think much about in the past.

Yes, still some left. Please pm me when you want to come by, and I'll give you the pickup info.

Thanks 124gr9mm and Ringwoodfrank. A couple of nice guys. Pleasure doing business with both of you. If anyone is interested, I still have plenty of the ammo left.

Trying to clear some stuff out to get ready for a move. 1. 15 boxes of CCI AR Tactical .22 LR 40 grain copper plated round nose ammo, 300 rounds per box at $25 each (see photo). 2. Soft gun cases:all brand new, never used: 2 Opmod 35”, 2 Blackhawk 35” and 42”, one 49” shotgun case. All $10 each. 3. 6 .50 cal. metal ammo cans, $10 each. Buy 2 get one free. Plus I’ll throw in a free .30 cal. can to the first one to buy two. Pick up in Wayne (preferred) or near Seaside Park. First one to post “I’ll take it” for any item or group of items gets the sale.

As New York attempts to severely limit areas where people can carry, it was just a matter of time before our rulers jumped in to "protect" us from the widespread presence of firearms.

Welcome aboard! Lots of good info and good folks on here.

Looked like around 8-10 people.

Thank you. That is very helpful. I had not gotten around to taking a closing look at the application.

I have kind of a quandary on my CCW app. I am in the process of moving within the same town. I know that I will need a new DL and FID card. Anyone know if the CCW card needs to be re-done after a move like the FID? Much as it pains me to wait, I suspect it's going to be best to get my new DL and FID before I submit my CCW app. Anyone have any knowledge on this?

I finally got around to qualifying today at Gun for Hire. It looked like they are still running a lot of people through the quals. Short safety briefing, instructions on course of fire, then right into it. We did not specifically have to demonstrate safe gun handling, but there were a lot of instructors, so they might have been observing us. Course of fire (untimed) was 50 rounds as follows: 24 rounds at 7 yards 14 rounds at 10 yards 6 rounds at 15 yards 6 rounds at 25 yards It appeared that everyone in my group passed. Anyone who cannot hit 80% or better on a full silhouette target with no time pressure probably should not be carrying a firearm. They did say that if anyone failed, they could try again in a week at a reduced fee, presumably after some practice and some remedial training.

I was under the impression that the qual only requires 6 or so rounds at 25 yards, so if you hit most of them at the shorter distances, the 25 becomes moot. (But of course, I plan on hitting all of them with my Springfield Armory XD subcompact 9 mm, which is very similar to a Glock 26.)

I believe you could get a +2 extension and have it blocked. Or you could just wait for NJ's mag limit to be overturned. Hope you are enjoying your 1301 Tactical. I love mine! I was in a shotgun class at GFH recently, where 5 of 6 students were using the 1301.

Cool idea. Think I might try that. Actually, that's one of those ideas that while it's probably legal in NJ (unloaded, of course), it's certainly not advisable.

Sometimes it comes down to the clothing. Try wearing a plaid shirt with dark colors to hide the lines of your concealed firearm.

That's hot stuff that someone defies overwhelming odds to win the money, and the government gets nearly twice as much.

If this happens, it will be nice to reunite with a box of mags that I had to exile out of state.

Considering that you would not use deadly force unless you were faced with the prospect of death or serious bodily harm, what is your alternative? Considering that CCW insurance is legal in most states, and that it was banned here by executive order, not legislative action, it seems this would not stand up to legal scrutiny.

Statistically, the chances of needing a reload in a civilian self defense encounter are almost nil. People who study these things (like John at Active Self Protection) say it rarely ever happens. Despite that, I keep a spare mag in the lower pocket on the left side (support side) of my cargo shorts.

Just to clarify, I believe LEO's in NJ can carry HP's when on duty, but are not permitted to do so when off duty.

So the police perform horribly in Uvalde, standing in the hallways for an hour while kids are killed, and the solution is that we have to give up our weapons?

I find this extremely frustrating. USCCA had to cancel my membership because they were not allowed to have members in NJ due to this EO prohibiting CCW insurance.

Now they are probably going to want to ban the Sub 2000, because it can fold and be concealed.

I carry regularly when I'm in Florida, and I'm still having trouble believing that I'm going to get to carry in NJ! I have a couple of belts designed for concealed carry, one black and one brown, but I've had them so long that I forgot the brand name. I've been using an Alien Gear holster recently, but have also used a Galco and a Cross Breed Supertuck, IWB at 4:00. I carry a Springfield Armory 9 mm XD Mod. 2 subcompact, which I leave in Florida. I like that the grip safety should prevent an AD/ND if I happen to get a piece of clothing snagged in the trigger guard when reholstering. I keep a spare mag in the lower support side pocket of a pair of cargo-type shorts. (LAPG makes Everyday Joe shorts, which are a little neater looking and more streamlined than typical cargo shorts, so they keep my wife happier.) I plan to carry an SA 9 mm SC here, probably in one of the holsters I mentioned. I'm going to need to figure out the nuances of carrying in colder weather with heavier clothing, which I presume makes concealment easier, but accessibility more difficult. I consider that a nice problem to have.

Not the answer I was hoping for, but yes, makes sense. This hinges on the eternal discussion of whether or not it's OK to have loaded mags in your car. For now, I'm going with the unloaded shotgun with a bag of shells nearby.

Not even if you had a CCW permit? Curious why not?