Old Glock guy

We need tougher laws on these. I mean, if we can save just one deer...

Target Sports USA has the RWC Saiga 7.62 on sale: http://www.targetsportsusa.com/p-4418-saiga-762x39mm-semi-auto-rifle-16-barrel-black-synthetic-stock.aspx# I don't have anything AK related, and I'm almost embarrassed to admit that I kind of like the look of it. Anyone have any comments on this? Do I understand correctly that any Saiga needs to undergo a conversion to be made compliant in NJ?

I would be shocked if it went any differently than this. Our only hope is a Christie veto. Once we have another Democratic governor, it's going to be all over.

We should send these results to Sweeney, who steadfastly maintains that "the overwhelming majority" of people in NJ want stricter gun laws.

They are probably unaware of his relatively recent anti-Second Amendment positions. Clearly, they need to be informed of his current record.

Yes, heard about it on News 12. Let's see if they ever mention anything about the results.

This was posted by Double Cheese on another thread: "I don’t understand Lou Greenwald’s “logic”. He’s stated before that he wants the 10 round limit because it just may “...save one life.” He tweeted this on Jan 24th: “.@MuttonChopsRock In Tucson, shooter tackled when reloading. Bullet #13 killed a 9 y/o girl. 10 round limit might have saved her” If he’s so interested in saving “just one life”, what about the first 10 rounds? What about people killed by the first 10 rounds? Are they not important? Only after 10 rounds have been fired we should start caring about people’s lives? If we were to follow his flawed logic, we should just go to ZERO rounds because it may just save one life. I’d really like to see him skip the 10 round BS and just cut to the chase: “I support the Second Amendment, but I just don’t think you should be able to have bullets.” That’s where they’re going with this. " I think that's a brilliant argument, the best I've seen, as it cuts to the heart of the intent of our legislature, and fully exposes their hypocrisy. In fact, perhaps we should DEMAND that they go to 0 round mag limits, to save lives. Then they would have 0 chance of withstanding a court challenge to their failed law.

And they are doing this why? As a deal for clarifying the smart gun law?

We just have to hope a lot of these cases are heard while SCOTUS still has a slight conservative edge. Once it goes the other way, with one more liberal appointment, we'll be screwed forever.

Yes, when they went to 15 rounds they told us it was to save lives. Now they want to go to 10. Anyone seeing a pattern here? So let me see if I have this straight, they want to clarify an already stupid law; and in exchange they want to further cripple our ability to defend ourselves against lawless predators?

I would love to see it legal before I'm either dead or too old to care. More than 30 states trust me with CCW, but not my home state.

There is a version of it called "summer biathlon," held a few times a year up at Cherry Ridge, which substitutes running for cross country skiing, with shooting in between, as in the winter sport.

Hey Shawn, welcome to the forum. I'm practically a neighbor of yours, up here in northern Wayne. I was going to address some of your concerns, but Damjan beat me to it. Have you seen info on obtaining your NJ Firearms ID card? Also, you're going to need a handgun purchase permit for every one you want to obtain. Be sure to apply for more than one, because they are only a couple of bucks each; and even though you think you only want one, you're probably going to get the urge to get others, and you need to go through the whole process each time you apply. Yeah, I know, sucks to be us.

Oops, I should have posted this on the other thread. I got the CCI Tactical, or whatever it's called.

Yes, everything I've read on the subject is about prevention. Once it happens, you're basically screwed until it melts on its own.

I've got one going right now. No way to know how bad the damage is going to be. Everything I've read about them has been about prevention. From what I can tell, once they occur, you're already screwed.

This is dead on correct. But don't think for a minute that they will be deterred by logic.

I believe his response was likely a reaction to being badgered by the Twitter Army of NJ2AS. Nonetheless, his remarks provide further evidence that our legislature will NEVER approve CCW. The only way it will ever happen here is if it is mandated by the courts.

Grrr! Them's fightin' words! And why does friggin' Bryan Miller, who is not even a resident of NJ, always get a say in this?

This is indeed cause for cautious optimism, possibly the best news we have gotten on this subject in a long, long time. But I see no reason for our legislature to feel the need to get ahead of this. I would envision them going down kicking and screaming, only if/when they are forced to do so by the courts.

Newtonian, you are indeed a prolific thread starter! (And BTW, I like your Mel Brooks avatar.) I hear it's bad there, but I am in Boulder, CO, where it's currently sunny, with temperatures in the high fifties. Went for a run earlier today in shorts and a long sleeved T-shirt. The only bad part is that they have strict gun laws here, so I can't carry. But on the plus side, I could legally purchase and smoke marijuana, if I were so inclined. (I'm not.)

I can almost guarantee that you will love the 15-22. Buy one, and you will not regret it.

Yes, I received notice that mine will be delivered next week. Hooray for Cabela's!

Wow, talk about unintended consequences! If SCOTUS rules against the right to bear arms outside the home, the whole nation could be screwed. No wonder everyone is so interested in this suit.

Stag Arms makes a .22 conversion kit for AR's that is just a BCG and a mag for around $200. It's really easy, and relatively inexpensive, but from my limited experience with it, it does not seem to be very accurate. If you are looking for more accuracy, the 15-22 is great, and it's a lot of fun. Your wife and nephew will love it. It's my GF's favorite of my collection.