Old Glock guy

Or, as Pogo once famously said, "We have seen the enemy, and he is us."

The government shut them down when they heard we were planning to protest CCW laws? Seems to be working now. Try again.

No one showed you the Secret Sign yet?

That's about ten minutes from me. I'm going to see if I can get over there for a little while. You'll know me when you see the old guy in the room. (Well, not the old, old guy who sits in the corner of the bar all the time, but pretty old.) If anyone else on the board is going, post it here and we can try to find each other (although I doubt we'll be able to talk much over Norseman's band).

How does Bryan Miller, who doesn't even live in this state, always manage to get himself quoted in gun legislation issues?

LOL!

So 47 states allow their citizens to defend themselves and others with concealed carry weapons, but our godforsaken state insists that none of us are capable of handling that kind of responsibility.

Well said PDM! I could not agree more.

Why not put in a CCW application with the rest of us and find out?

Very nice!

Just started watching a couple of days ago. I had not seen a single episode prior to that. My GF's son swears it's the best TV series ever, so based on that and other good things I've heard about it, one of my winter rpojects is to make it through the entire five seasons. No spoilers please!

Exactly! The state maintains that it is currently approving more than 95% of applications (because most of us don't bother to apply), so there is no problem. We hope to expose that narrative for the fraud that it is, as 67gtonut explains. I believe it is important that EVERYONE on this board get involved with this project. This is a rare opportunity to fight for one of the rights that has been taken from us. Most of our political and legislative efforts have been to slow the creep of ever more restrictive anti-gun legislation, as the noose tightens further around us. The worst that can happen is that you will be required to state on future applications that the state deemed that you did not have justified need (or that the state did not feel that your life is worth defending, if you would like to express it a bit more harshly). If anyone would like more information about this plan, I would suggest reading through this thread: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/62769-nj-ccw-question/ From that same thread, I really like this explanation of "justifiable need" provided by CMJeepster: "Since the decision in Warren v. District of Columbia (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981) holds that police do not have a duty to provide police services to individuals, I choose to exercise my inherent human right of self-defense by keeping and bearing arms as guaranteed to me by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and confirmed by District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)." Mods, can we put this thread someplace where it has greater visibility? We need as many people involved with this as possible.

I'm in! What can we do to publicize this as much as possible? And should we get together on what we are going to write as our justifiable need?

Won't they give you a 90 day extension?

Wouldn't even have to be anything nefarious. Just not having electric would make internet access difficult, if not impossible.

Yeah, I know that. I was just having some fun with Anthony.

You need to have a decent supply of stored water, probably enough to last at least a few weeks; and then multiple ways to purify additional water: chlorine bleach, boiling, solar disinfection, tablets, filters, etc. Good to learn how to do this now, as the internet might not be available when you need it.

They are "associated" with Front Sight only in that they share their marketing lists, as they also do with Tim Schmidt of USCCA and David Morris of Fastest Way to Prepare. I have no interest in launching into intensive martial arts training, but I've trained with these guys, and at least I feel like I have a fighting chance against a crazed sociopath. (BTW, this stuff is of no help in winning bar fights.) I really don't want to get into an argument with anyone over this is worthwhile or not, but from my experience, I think it was worth the time and money.

One could make a case for doing it either way, but the above is the way I view it.

That picture is kind of small for my old eyes. Which one is Anthony? Merry Christmas to all my friends at GFH!

I've done the videos and the live class. Well worth it, IMHO. Here's some discussion of it from last year: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/33352-target-focus-training/

Stag Arms. I have a Model 2, and I love it. It's sturdy, reliable, and more accurate than I am. I got it for around $800 a couple of years ago, but they might be a little more these days. LMK if you would like more info.

I like it! Short and to the point. Could make a good infomercial when we start our CCW push. As for keeping a long gun in the trunk, not only is it inaccessible (by design), but it is my understanding that once you take it out and load it, you have committed a felony.

I use Critical Defense when I am in Free America, where I can carry; and have it loaded for HD. But it occurs to me that even if we ever get CCW in this state, we're going to have to load FMJ ammo.

Nothing to see here people. Move along.