Old Glock guy

Nice addition! I see that this section has blossomed already since this morning.

IANAL, but I don't see any reason for us to assume that the Pantano case is going to help us. In the most likely outcome, the court will rule that he has no justifiable need, and the status quo will be maintained; or, they will say that his need is justified, but the ruling will be very narrow and specific, so it will have no bearing on the rest of us. So there is no sense waiting for that to play out, IMHO. We should just make plans to go ahead with something similar to what Luso has outlined. And the sooner the better.

Luso, I'm with you. We can sit around thinking up all kinds of negative scenarios. Or we can take action. I suggested involvement with NJ2AS because even though we would be a grassroots movement, they could provide some organization; and I believe that is a cause that they would like to get involved in anyway. I agree that the time is right for this. Why continue to procrastinate? Let's force their hand and see what happens. Worst case is we need to add another line of explanation to future P2P's.

Buy a two to four year old car in good condition for which you can afford to pay cash. It's great not having to be a slave to monthly payments.

One major difference is that Solzhenitsyn had the opinion of the rest of the world on his side, while the rest of the current world very much approves of what our government is doing.

I have taken several classes with Chris at MDTS, and I would agree that they're great; but you can't go wrong with Gun for Hire either. Hell, train with both of them. It never hurts to get different perspectives and more practice.

Interesting article. Thanks for posting it.

I like it! And I certainly admire your passion for this. I'm more than willing to try. Perhaps NJ2AS can help organize this now that the election is behind us, and nothing is currently on the table. Seems simple enough. Requires writing one additional line on the app. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see it being a NICS issue.

"Tilde," so that's what that thing is called!

I think I've forgotten everything at one time or another: ammo, mags, target stand, targets, spotting scope, eye and ear protection, and yes, even my guns once. Hey, it's tough getting old. Recently, I forgot my mag loader for a GFH handgun class. Worked out OK, but my thumbs were aching by the end.

Well, you nailed that one!

Any predictions on tonight's action?

Good advice from everyone here. I have found that the practice trap field that a few have mentioned is great for putting rounds through my HD shotguns, which have shorter barrels, making them less useful for traditional trap. So, how did it go?

Well amen to that! I would consider doing this, but does anyone know if they break your chops if you're really bad?

Wow, amazing stuff! If we could ever get people in our government to work that well together, that would be a true miracle..

OK, yes sorry I missed that. Looks like something got lost in translation from the body of the article to the photo caption.

Guys, read more carefully: "Since the quick expansion is evidence of success, one may wonder why it was the first public range to open in more than 25 years." Anthony's range did not open until a year and a half later. Nice article. Thanks for posting it Howard.

I agree with you about the safety location being the biggest difference, my preference being exactly the opposite. And now with three Mossbergs, I don't even want to get a Remington (even though I kind of like them), because if I have to reach for one in the unlikely event of a critical incident, I don't want to have to figure out where to look for the safety.

Indeed, sucks to be us in NJ. As Pizza Bob notes, you get to skip the fingerprinting this time around, but everything else is the same. I'm sure the complicated application process serves its intended purpose of discouraging some people from obtaining firearms.

Sounds like it might be worth it for the NRA to get involved in this case. The DC AG is setting a dangerous precedent.

Well said brother! Now wait for the NSA to come knocking at your door.

Wolfy, that was great! Good find.

LOL! That was exactly what I thought! Can't believe you beat me to posting it. My other thought was that I was reminded of the old Star Trek episodes, if anyone is old enough to remember them. Anyone foolish enough to beam down on a mission who was not one of the main characters was a dead man. I feared that the same fate awaited poor Zach, and sadly, I was correct.

I checked Snopes. Turns out the pigs were too smart to fall for that.

That's frickin' beautiful! Brought a tear to my eye.