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Anyone with a significant other knows, you can argue about the stupidest little things, and root conflict isn't the topic, one of you just wanted to pick a fight. I don't trouble with folks like LKB who don't bother with facts or subject matter research: they want the quickest route to a fight. I am more interested in the person who can wear more than 1 hat. Bob and the lady from Alabama. I'm more interested in the person who says, "I agree with you on that point, and you've changed my mind about that point. But I disagree with you about this point, and these are the reason why."

Patch is better. http://westfield.patch.com/articles/nj-residents-for-action-gun-advocates-demonstrate-at-congressman-lance-s-office#video-13416507

That's awesome. I couldn't make it but I'm glad we were there to support those who support us. This post got me so happy, I signed membership with NJ2AS for two years! BTW, NJ.com spin. http://www.nj.com/suburbannews/index.ssf/2013/02/protesters_advocating_gun_control_and_gun_rights_both_rally_at_congressman_lances_westfield_office.html

The bill was released a month ago. For a month these liberals clamored around the bill like it was their salvation. Now they are realizing, it doesn't do jack squat. Dumb liberals. Learn 2 Read.

It was in the Skyfall opening sequence James with a two-handed grip shooting a Walther PPK Bad Guy with an extended strong hand grip shooting that Glock 18C with that 100-round c-Mag. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/digital/fact-vs-fiction/fact-vs-fiction-the-truth-about-skyfalls-weapons-14544466 http://www.betaco.com/cmag_products.asp

As discussed, ANJRPC is state subsidiary. That includes keeping in touch with state legislators and litigation of state enforcement.

I think only way we are going to overturn Miller and NFA is with standing as a State. Like when NRA sued the Brady Bill interim provisions in Printz, it was as sheriffs, not average Joe. Same way if State of Texas sues, "Our militia will carry full auto, Federal government cant stop us" then NFA can fall. If someone invents a phaser someday is one reason we must make this fight about people, not tools. The technology we argue about is 50 and 100 years old: we are overdue to invent better ways to kill each other. And the way to do it will be through the Heller precedent: if phaser become the weapon of choice for criminals, it should also become the quintessential self defense weapon of choice.

Before Heller, referencing Second Amendment as an individual right hadn't occurred since Presser of 1886. Heller gave substance by attaching handguns as quintessential. We must expand this with more case law into long guns. Then we expand it into semiauto long guns. Then we expand it into 'Assault Weapons' by showing cosmetic differences do not differentiate long guns, and restrictions based upon capricious characteristics must fall, under either strict or intermediate scrutiny. You need to build up to it: if you jump directly to AWB, you end up with a loss like Heller 2. We need to fight smartly to win, not set ourselves up for losses like Heller 2. http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDwQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cadc.uscourts.gov%2Finternet%2Fopinions.nsf%2FDECA496973477C748525791F004D84F9%2F%24file%2F10-7036-1333156.pdf&ei=QHMgUY6vN4WvigKanID4Aw&usg=AFQjCNGZumy3HUrxmFlphjGEX1YShTe4_w

Common use in Miller referred to military use, but also scoped the right as in context of militia not individuals. Heller syllabus 1(f). Common use in Heller referred to civilian use such as self defense, but scoped the right as individual not linked to militia. Heller page 52. There is no reconciling Heller and Miller: there is no conflict.

NJ is fairly blue. I think 'asset' is not realistic. I think not 'asinine' would be a step up. Both for Congressional Senators And the State Assemblymen.

True dat. We are decades behind other civil liberty movements. We have to both legislate and litigate: NRA has not done enough of the later.

I agree. If a State argues that it wants its militia to have full auto, then the State's would have standing as free State. But for an individual, the right is not relative to militia. The right is relative to protection, not insurrection. The dichotomy is appreciated by the Stevens and Scalias: to advance our own liberty under the legal framework, we need to appreciate the same.

That would be very nice. I am not sure SCOTUS has the balls for it, but one can dream. Honestly I don't understand why folks like Brady and McCarthy give a same about AWB. Brady was shot with a 22 revolver and McCarthy with a 9mm. Just goes to show the irrationality and fear of blaming the tool instead of the person.

They only filed notice. Then within 3 months they have to file the lawsuit. Then the court sets dates. Then the court hears evidence. Then court thinks about it. Then court announces a decision. Then decision gets appealed to Court of Appeals. Then appeals court decides when or not to grant review. ..... Then appeals court remands the case back for further evidentiary hearing... ... It will probably be a while. And State AWB tends not to do too well. Reference 2001 Kasler v Lockyer.

Heller II was remanded by the Court of Appeals, so it will be years before it comes back up to SCOTUS. I am not seeing any other cases of AWB rising to SCOTUS anytime sooner. State AWB take a while, and Federal AWB doesn't look likely to pass.

I wont buy a glock until their NYS LEO sales bundle 7 round mags instead of full capacity mags.

I really like the last two paragraphs. Puts the whole circus in context.

That is awesome.

I was considering a pistol. This pretty much nailed it for me. No Glock or S&W.

People who base their argument upon Heller needs to read Heller 2. Judiciary is finicky. The same fact and judicial precedence yield drastically different opinions.

Huffington Post comments are moderated to support a liberal slant. I used to post comments on HP. Eventually the moderators started deleting, delaying or simply not approving my comments.

www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/13/new-jersey-guns_n_2678713.html?utm_hp_ref=gun-control Made Huffington Post.

Do we know what bills did not pass? Article said 20 passed. Not really sure what passed and what did not. www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/02/gun_control_measures_approved.html#incart_river_default

BTW "A former U.S. Marine and Presidential Honor Guard, Dr. Guantez brings a wealth of diverse knowledge and experience to our field." http://www.turningpointnj.org/tp-contactus-guantez.html

Also Tony Colandro of Gun For Hire got the first ruckus response of the night for the comment for something like, "I would rather spend the money to build more prisons to keep violent criminals incarcerated, than spend that same money on this 43 bills." It went over well with the pro-gun crowd. It didn't go over too well with some of the other folks. But before then the crowd was a little quiet and uptight: after that they were quite engaged, clapping, cheering. At least for the pro-rights and pro-Newark crowd. The pro-control folks didn't get much support.