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You may wish to calm down before you give yourself a stroke. v Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy. In Truth there is no news, in the News there is no Truth. I wouldn't go worrying about media reports: heavy on infotainment and spin, light on facts.

To Howard, DSD and new shooters: I am glad to see new gun owners. NJ has about 11% firearm owners, which is far below national levels. If we are going to be heard, it is not just about yelling the loudest. It is also about increasing that percentage, welcoming new gun owners, extending the sport and culture of responsible firearm ownership. Increasing percentage of gun ownership is our best chance to secure our rights against constant encroachment.

Tin Foil Hats...

Firearms has many facets. If you are curious about rifles, I would suggest buying that 10/22 and converting it into a "Liberty Training Rifle" (Tech-sights + sling + extra magazine) and signing-up for the Appleseed down in Winslow. That's an inexpensive good foundation for standing, sitting and prone. If you earn a patch, it means you have built the skills to engage targets at 100, 200, 300 and 400 yards. Most attendees finish the clinics with more skills than they started with, but most also don't earn the patch. Another aspect of rifles is benchrest. That's folks punching a quarter-inch inch hole 100 to 1000 yards away, then making the next 4 bullets fall into the same hole. Not an inexpensive pass time, but even you just dabble and observe, it is a great way to pick up fundamentals you can carry into all other aspects of shooting.

They want to ban every firearm. They just target low hanging fruit. It was handguns for a while. Chicago and DC banned it. It could be "50 cal" It could be "sniper rifles." It could be shotguns. They'll ban whatever they can ban. And they'll take advantage of people's ignorance to get it done. http://www.vpc.org/studies/awaconc.htm "The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons."

Ran into this. I'm not in the market no more, but just thought I'd share in case you are fresh out. https://www.shopdunns.com/products/2977/pmc_223_remington_55gr_fmj_bt_1000rd/ PMC 223 Remington 55gr FMJ-BT PMC Bronze Ammunition 1000 Rounds Our price $629.99 20 Rounds Our price $12.99

Good luck man. So confusing, right? I wouldn't want the hassle: one day you quit or retire, and then suddenly it's like WTF gotta figure it all out again?!?

Depends if you need to hear someone else. I mostly shoot outdoors, and I use 3M Peltor Combat Arms Earplugs. If I need to block out more sound, I like the MidwayUSA ear muffs on top of the plugs. But if I need to hear someone talking to me, I use my Howard Leight.

This is exactly what you said you did not want (sorry!) but my suggestion is: Ruger 10/22 for about $200. It was my first rifle, and I still shoot it today (literally today. It was cold out.) These are the reasons: 1) You may not like rifle shooting: many people don't find it engaging. A 10/22 is a cheap way to find out if the sport is for you. 2) Some people gravitate towards making the smallest possible hole at the longest distance. Then you get scopes, better trigger, better barrel, etc... 10/22 has huge aftermarket to support that. Then second rifle you get a Remington 700 or Savage. 3) Some people gravitate towards position shooting: standing, kneeling, sitting, prone. Semi has easier learning curve because you don't need to break line-of-sight for follow-up shot. 4) Some people gravitate towards tactical shooting: iron sights, red dot. You can swap the stock on the 10/22 to a tactical stock very easily. Then second rifle you get can be an AR-15.

I dont think you have mentioned: what is your goal? My inclination is to get multiple rifles and a 22 variation for each platform. Cost savings on ammunition for practices quickly outweigh the cost of rifle. Skills learned on rimfire platform is highly transferable.

Thank you guys for showing up. I think honest, patient, calm, humble and sincere discussions Really goes a long way, in many situations.

Honestly I am less concerned about the elegance of an argument Than the strength of the conviction And the willingness we stand together to protect the civil liberty for ourselves and our posterity.

I would have a tough time phrasing it better. The battle is not with 5% extremist left that will never be convinced. The battle is not with the 12% gun owners of NJ. We'll vote 2A as a highly salient issue, sometimes over taxes and jobs. The battle is over the middle 80%, whose top salient issues are jobs, economy and taxes, and 2A has little lasting salience. For example: One recent Huffington Post article discusses Universal Background Check bill being held up by Schumer's insistence on creating National Firearms Registry. Comment I posted was: " I was looking at FY budgets for various federal programs from 2008-2013 projected: FBI, DHS, food stamps, HUD... Every program cost billions of dollars, has seen growth every year, often double-digit percentage growth. At same time, nearly every private sector has had budget cutbacks and reductions-in-force nearly every year. Now another proposal that'll probably cost $10-$20 billion to implement and cost $2-3 billion per year to run. It just amazes me how consistently Democrats spend & grow government economy While tax & kill private sector job growth. And they probably don't even know it. "

I try to remain hopeful that I will be surprised by the decency of people. The form is called something like file a complaint. Basically you complain about a civil liberty infringement, and ask them for help.

I went to ACLU-NJ website and filled out their form. Basically I told them, regardless of their position on Second Amendment, ACLU's position on Terror Watch List is clear. If they don't take a stand on the assembly bill, which has already passed committee and general assembly, their act of omission reduces their credibility.

I guess I'll put off buying that 700...

Thanks. That is good to hear. I am looking to improve my own consistency. I've seen some really impressive performances, and I am not sure I am willing to put in the expenses to repeat the same.

I want to go check out Benchrest seminar on Saturday. Can anyone talk to me about what to expect? Been wanting to check it out for a few years now, but this is the first year the intro class doesnt conflict with my annual ski trip.

After the farce of today's General Assembly, I put together following for Assemblyman O'Donnell. Assemblyman Jason O'Donnell, I watched with some amusement your interaction with Assemblyman Carroll. For your reference, legally transferring a handgun requires the same background check as a Firearms Purchaser ID Card. It is the same NJSP form, below. http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sts-033.pdf Assemblyman Carroll is exactly correct: your bill adds no additional value. The handgun permit is valid for 90 days, with a limit of 1 purchase every month. Your statement regarding purchasing the weapon 1 year after the initial background check is non sequitur. http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/info/pdf/firearms/njac-title13-ch54.pdf It is unfortunate the NJ Democratic party's actions today is guided more by politics than wisdom or factual knowledge. Your efforts add burden to underfunded municipal detectives and NJ State Police. I urge you to consult with folks who are more knowledgeable regarding NJ firearms ownership. Sincerely

I wonder how the anti's are enjoying all this jiz... I mean Jazz...

This morning I work up to learn that my team in India had to rush home. Two bombs went off in their city, and everyone is getting sent home for security reasons. We worry about the violence that happens in USA... but it's nothing compared to what other countries have to deal with.

We seemed to have lost that journalistic ethics somewhere along the way...

it's testing the waters. 1-characteristic AWB will be soon if we don't stop them hard.

They are probably just making sure the FIDs are valid numbers. Some guy behind the counter can just plug in whatever fake FID and pocket the ammo for street sales.

My biggest peeve isn't even if it is 10 or 15 rounds. Sorry but I just don't see much difference. My biggest peeve is the LEO exceptions. If 15 rounds are OMG EVIL then every NJSP, township LEO, sheriff, port authority, FBI, DHS and other federal agents which work in or travel through NJ roads should turn in their 15 round EVIL mags for 10 round mags. My biggest peeve is the hypocrisy. And that goes for everything: carry, AWB, etc...