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Thanks for the link. I just ordered one. It seems like a better unit over the Do-All White Wing.

I bought some 25rd mags pinned to 15rds from an online dealer. It seems that the mag was pinned by drilling a hole (only on one side)and installing a pin with some expoxy. Technically, I can drill out the pin and make it a 25rd mag. However, that shouldn't make the mag illegal since I can't remove the pin by hand or it can't accidentally fall out. It would take a deliberate act with tools to alter it, which would be illegal. The question is what does NJ law mean by "permanent"? For example, if I buy a legal shotgun and cut the barrel down to an illegal length. This doesn't make the original shotgun illegal as this would never happen without deliberate action. The act of cutting it down made the shotgun illegal. Therefore, if it's welded to limit it to 15rds and you can't alter it without tools, it should be considered legal. IMHO and not legal advice.

Bryan - Thanks for the offer. I think I'm leaning towards the do-all for $255 shipped.

I'm looking to get an inexpensive clay thrower (mostly shooting by myself) and wanted to know if anyone has any experience with the Trius ST1 one step thrower. I would need something that I can operate/shoot by myself. I also have limited trunk space so I can't have something too big. I considered an electronic thrower but I don't shoot too often and am not sure it would be worth the extra money. The one I considered is the do all white wing for $300. Is this thrower worth it over the Trius one step? Thanks edit: I just found the do-all white wing for $255 shipped from www.ohya.com Never heard of this site but at that price, it may be worth considering over a spring trap.

I don't see why they would have an issue as long as you have enough members to guest-in the non-members. What's the difference from five individual members (who happen to be there at the same time) each guest-in two people and everyone decides to let others shoot their firearms (as long as all the range rules are followed)? Just to be safe, you should contact CR to let them know. Let me know when you're thinking of doing this and if you need another member. I can offer a couple of firearms into the mix. Maybe you can get a list of all the firearms, calculate the total cost of ammo and split it amongst the group. We then lay them out on different stations and rotate shooting until everyone has had a chance to shoot everything. Seems like fun and people can get a chance to try out something different.

Just got back from CR. Canistear Rd is mostly paved from RT23 to Range Rd. The parts that are not paved don't have any potholes. It was nice and quiet (3 other shooters).

Any updates on the condition of Canistear Road? Has it been paved (only care about the road between 23N and Range rd)? If not, can you still get to CR without trashing your tires/rims from the potholes?

Seems like a great idea. It would be fun to shoot competing against others, while not being too serious as it's informal and more for fun and getting to meet others. From reading the thread, the Old Bridge zombie shoot seemed like a lot of fun. I guess it all depends on what CR will allow us to do. What about having a double elimination competion where we break up people in different brackets and have a dynamic tree shoot-off...winner moves on, loser moves to the loser's bracket. However, this may be limited to 22lr as I think CR only allows metal targets on the 22lr range. I'll be meeting with John this week and I'll ask what they're willing to consider.

I've always used the price request feature on this forum (really great, btw) and try to support forum sponsors whenever possible. I didn't in this case because I wasn't looking to purchase the it(didn't know they were shipping them yet). Upon seeing the M&P22, I suspected very few dealers would have them in stock. I also called S&W to inquire about additional mags and the rep was surprised I was able to find one as they only recently started to ship them. With this in mind, I didn't want to risk losing it or have to trek another hour and fifteen minutes to come back. This was definitely an emotional buy as I really liked it. If I had to do it over again, I wouldn't change a thing. Yes, I could have saved some money if I waited, but I felt it was worth it to have it then and there. I do somewhat agree that dealers shouldn't be marking up above MSRP, but I understand and it doesn't bother me. As a latest follow up...I still really like it and have no regrets. Aside from the crappy Remmington Golden Bullets, I can't recall having any FTF or FTE and I've probably got over 1500 rounds through it.

I knew I was paying over MSRP but nobody else had it...supply vs demand, I suppose. I don't mind so much as it was my choice to buy it.

Which did you like best? Any one stand out over the other two?

You should get whichever most closely resembles the ergonomics and action of what you have or will get. Afterall, the main purpose is to be able to get more trigger time at a cheaper cost. You should really think about what your future plans are and factor that in. I ended up with an M&P 22 and have zero regrets. I usually go through 500+ rounds in a range session and it costs me less than $20. It would be fairly costly if I did that many rounds with larger calibers (I don't reload...yet). Cost aside, the main reason I chose the M&P 22 is the fact that I can shoot larger caliber M&P's and have the same "feel" since the 22 is nearly identical in shape/size (although lighter) as the larger caliber M&Ps.

You're right, it depends on what the OP is looking for. My criteria was a .22lr pistol that can has a similar platform as larger caliber guns. I was looking for something I can use for cheap range practice that wasn't too different in size/feel. The M&P 22 fit the bill perfectly for me as it's the same size as an M&P 9/40.

What's the difference between the Jersey and Cali models? Couldn't you get a Jersey legal model and pin the stock to the desired length?

It feels solid. It's the same size as an M&P9 but is lighter. Therefore, I would guess that the slide is alum or other lighter weight metal.

Just a quick follow up on the M&P 22...I'm liking it more and more. I've put around 1000 rounds through it and it's performing great with CCI Mini-Mags and Federal Bulk HP. It got real dirty and had some FTF/FTE's with the Remy Golden Bullets (never using those again). Anyway, it had a lot of lube from the factory so I stripped her down and cleaned off the excess lube. I also polished the hammer/sear and got the pull down from 5.17 lbs to 4.45 lbs. One other thing I did was to add a small piece of carbon fiber to the trigger stop so there's minimal over travel after the hammer releases. The trigger is now lighter, smoother and crisper with minimal play. I was considering taking all the guts out to see what else I can mod, but decided to leave it as the 4.45 lb pull is fine for now. Those thinking about it shouldn't have any reservations as it's a great pistol.

I really like m 15-22 also. I just did a modified version of the 15 minute trigger job. I bent the trigger spring as instructed but didn't clip the hammer spring (I bent one of the springs to about 70 degrees instead). I didn't clip the spring as per instructions because I wanted to be able to bend it back if I get any FTE/FTF's. I also polished the sear and hammer and put in the set screw to get rid of the creep. All in all, I got the trigger pull down from 5.87 lbs to 3.43 lbs and have a nice crisp and tight trigger. Everyone should do these simple/cheap mods.

I was looking into getting a P22 also but it's a bit small and uncomfortable for me (I have medium sized hands). I also hated the mag release. I ended up getting a M&P 22 and love it. It's the same size as the 9mm/.40cal versions. I'll probably pick up an M&P9 soon and will continue to use the 22 for range practice. It may be a bit above your price range but I think it's one of the best .22 pistols out. The Sig Mosquito looked pretty good also. I didn't care for the Ruger Mark III or the Neos.

Same here. It was a pleasure meeting you. Thanks for your help.

That would be great. Thanks for accommodating. I'll be heading over to the Bullet Hole this morning...got to scratch that itch and it's the closest public range!

I'm looking to join Cherry Ridge but I'm taking the family away this weekend (membership Sunday). I guess I have to wait until next month to join. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone is heading to CR sometime this morning/early afternoon and wouldn't mine guesting me in to check the place out and do some plinking. Thanks, Mike

I was actually hoping you'd reschedule. I'm taking the family away for the long weekend. I guess I have to wait until next month.

Thanks. Do you recommend any good/cheap metal targets? Would I be able to make something like this and secure it to the wooden target stand (so I can reuse the wooden stand with paper targets for the other ranges) http://www.shootsteel.com/?gclid=CK62jZHo_KoCFYMe4Qod1TZhyw Also, how about something like this: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3994053 Thanks, Mike

Shore Shot is great but you should call to see if they have what you're looking for available to rent. I was there fairly recently and they didn't have the M&P 9 available for rent as it was out being serviced.

Looking for some info on the Silhouette range for some .22lr plinking. Do they have targets setup or do I have to bring my own? Also, what are the rules on bringing metal targets? Thanks!