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Wanted to get some opinions on the Burris SpeedBead red dot.

You may want to consider getting a 22lr pistol comparable to other handguns you may already have or want to get. Since I have an M&P40, I ended up getting an M&P22 pistol as it's virtually identical to my M&P40...I also bought an M&P airsoft gun for some in home practicing

Wow...really shows that I've been out of been out of the loop :unknw: Hopefully, there's some other folks not plugged in like me and get a chuckle out of it

Here's something we should be worried about....now all the gangstas out there may actually be able to hit something!

Cherry Ridge is nice but it gets boring shooting at paper. Does anyone know if Cherry Ridge will ever have plans to let members setup steel targets at the handgun range? What about that new range/pit they are building there?

Great vids and comments...oh, nice Kimber too!

Maybe that's the case. But both types of ammo were purchased from Atlanta Arms & Ammo.

On my last range trip with my M&P40, I had both major and minor power factor ammo. While the ammo loaded to major pf had more pep to it, I noticed that my groupings were better than shooting with the minor pf ammo. Anyone else experience this?

I saw some people with 9mm and especially with 22lr hit the plate a little low but didn't fall. Need to hit the plate a little higher but that shrinks the target zone. I didn't have that problem with my 40, neither did the guys with 45's.

You can also use a shotgun for the Tenafly steel matches.

lol...I'm a grand master in my head before I pull the trigger

I was thinking of building an AR when I saw this...http://palmettostatearmory.com/9021.php Anyone have any experince with one? Would it be better to build an AR from scratch vs getting a complete AR? Just want to make sure I get the best performance for the money.

I shot a knock down steel match using all 40 minor loads and it felt very comparable to a 9mm. I decided that I'll skip getting a 9mm for production USPSA and just use my M&P40 with the minor loads. Now I can use it for production, limited and limited 10 and maybe put the money towards a 1911 open gun in 38 super.

I was there last night as well. It was a lot of fun. I was the guy with the amber glasses and white tee shirt. Were you the guy with the head cam? I really liked shooting at 20 plates as you're limited to 10 rounds/mag and have to reload a couple of times. While I was able to finish each string under the 40sec limit, I agree that it's harder than it seems...but I felt that way with static steel as well. My first run was my best time. There wasn't many people around as many were setting up or going through the safety briefing and I was going at a steady pace. As the night went on, a lot of people were in the port area watching and I noticed that I was shooting faster and missing more causing me to do an extra reload. The lesson learned for me is to slow down an minimize reloads. I saw a lot of people trying to shoot fast and missing a lot.

Maybe you are manipulating the gun slightly differently because you know it's a different round. Try randomly mixing both ammo in a mag and see if your groupings change. If you don't know what ammo will be fired, you can focus on your fundamentals.

Just wondering why double stack 1911's aren't more popular than they are. Besides not being eligible for USPSA single stack, why wouldn't you want the added capacity? I assume the grip would be a bit bigger as well, so fit may be a factor. I was considering getting one of the RIA 1911 Hi-Cap models.

Good points and they make sense. I was considering a 9mm as my next pistol. Since I have an M&P40 and if using minor ammo will make it comparable to a 9mm, then I don't see much reason to get the 9mm.

I'm not too sensitive to recoil so I never paid much attention, but if you shot 9mm and 40S&W loaded to have similar power factors (minor) in the same brand/type of gun (e.g M&P9 and M&P40), would you be able to tell the difference? If so, what would the main differences be?

Althought the Apex upgrades are great and provide an easy drop-in solution, people looking into buying an M&P shouldn't assume this is a necessity and factor them into the overall cost of owning an M&P. It's very easy to mod the trigger yourself. No reason not to give it a try if you were planning on installing the Apex parts yourself and if you screw up, you can always drop in the Apex parts. Gritty Trigger: round and polish the striker block; polish the trigger bar engaging the striker block. You can also clip a couple of coils in the striker spring to minimize friction and lessen the pull weight. Shortening Trigger/Sear break: Remove the sear and sand/polish down some material on top; you can also do the same with the firing pin block. This reduces the amount the sear has to move as there's less distance before the striker releases. Reset Feel: Bend the trigger bar slightly towards the middle so there's more pressure against the sear resulting in a more pronounced reset feel. Reset Travel: Take some material off the sear where the trigger bar engages so it engages later. This will reduce over travel and the amount of travel back to reset. However, this will also result in more pre-travel. All of this is detailed in the DIY Burwell trigger job document. As always, be patient and take your time.

Will there be any classifier stages?

I get a chuckle out of this thread because I've worried about these scenarios before. I understand that we all want to follow the laws, but I've concluded that reality is vastly different than debating over the legal implecations. I assume everyone would agree that if your spouse is home and someone breaks in that he/she should absolutely take possession of your gun and use it as defense if any innocent lives (his/hers/children) are in danger. I can't imagine anyone telling their spouse "Honey, if a BG breaks in and you feel your life is in danger, don't use my gun because we MAY get charged with an illegal transfer".

I kind of figured as much. I could easily see myself starting off with a $500 gun and then get the itch to get a higher quality 1911...happens to me all the time. I agree with Harry...I don't want to shoot a nice 1911 as I know I'll have to have it! Ignorance is bliss, so keep them 1911's away from me

I may be in...gotta convince the wife first. It would be nice if we all get put in the same group.

My M&P40 will be used for HD and USPSA limited, so I'm really looking for a 1911/2011 in 9mm for the range and USPSA production. Another reason for the 1911 is to be a good platform to get into USPSA open.

I really like my M&P40 as it feels great in my hands and shoots really well. I've never been a fan of pistols with hammers but I've recently been interested in 1911's. I know they shoot well and have a great trigger, but they are also heavy, potentially tempermental and have low round capacity (single stack). Maybe because it's a true classic semi-auto handgun, but I find myself itching to find out more about them. Are they really that much better than an M&P, XDm, Glock or any other newer generation pistol? I've been thinking about looking for a double stacked 1911 in 9mm (RIA tactical 1911A2, maybe). I'm looking in the $500-$600 range as to have a fair comparison to my M&P. Aside from a trigger job or Apex kit, there's not much more you can do to an M&P to make it perform better. Are the lower priced 1911s worth it?