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Have you tried reloaded ammo? If not, try some 124gr or 147gr bullets with some N320...night and day

It's worth it...if you shoot enough and have spare time. I'm also around 13-14 cents/round (picking up brass). You also have to factor in that you could always sell your reloading equipment. That amount of 'equity' should be factored in to the overall picture...even better if you pickup a decent setup used. The one thing I hear often is that you don't actually save much money by reloading, you end up shooting more at the same cost...more is good by me Also, a good load tailored for your gun will shoot and feel significantly better than most factory ammo. Everytime someone shooting factory ammo asks me about my reloads, I let them shoot it and they never preferred their factory ammo.

Are these factory/aftermarket mags being sold to NJ residents? If so, it seem that companies are blocking and selling mags to reduced capacity states like NJ but doesn't seem to be the legal way to do it.

You got the point...they were just examples of what I've seen done to reduce mag capacity. What gets me is the M&P22 factory 10 round mags. It takes seconds to remove the baseplate and the limiting collar to make them 12 rounders. I know they are both legal in NJ but using it as an example of what S&W did. I assume to comply with states that have a 10 round limit like NY, but is not permanent (maybe NY laws are different).

About how many stages are there and how many plates per stage? I like knockdown better than static but have to beg, borrow and steal to get out to one of these events.

I was at CR on Sunday to do some HG and rimfire plinking and it amazed me how many people were at the new member orientation. I can't imagine how much money the range brings in on new memberships and renewals but I would think there could be much more done to make CR a better range. It's sad that it's not a better range than what it is today.

Just wanted to get some clarity on what's considered the legal way of limiting mags in NJ. Couple examples come to mind: 1) NJ Legal M&P 9mm mags are S&W's standard 17 round mags with some extra coils in the mag spring to limit to 15 rounds. 2) M&P22 10 round mags are just the 12 round mags with a plastic collar on the base, which can be easily removed to make them 12 rounders. While in example 2, both mags are NJ legal, it's more of an example of what manufacturs do to limit mags. I thought they had to be 'permanent'? If so, what's considered permanent in NJ? Edit: removed 'HiCap' from the title as to not 'confuse the facts'...because it makes a world of difference to the relevance of the thread.

You can also try Police Products in Wyckoff. They are $40 (nics included). You can ask for a multi-transfer deal.

Have you considered a Benelli M2? You can get the american version for around $1k

A 5 lb trigger pull isn't bad and shouldn't cause that much of an effect if your fundamentals are sound. Try randomly mixing in some snap caps along with live rounds to see if you're anticipating recoil and flinching (usually low-left is the result). If the trigger breaks clean (e.g. feels like breaking a glass rod), then you can try lowering the pull weight yourself. Just take out the sear spring and slightly bend the middle leaf back a bit to your desired pull wieght and see if that helps. You can also try getting a ligher main/hammer spring, which also lowers pull wieght but need to make sure you get consistent primer ignition.

I have a Spartan V 9mm and it's been great. The Spartan 3" and 4" shouldn't be any different as they are just shortend slides and barrels. They all use the same non-ramped frame. I load FMJ/CMJ bullets at 1.15" and it's been running like a champ...couldn't ask for more performance-wise even from a gun two or three times the cost. I'm also using The Tripp Cobra 10rd mags, which are great as well. Tried with Wilsons and like the Tripps better.

Sounds interesting. How long was the session and how much? Was the training geared more for defensive, competition type shooing or both?

What did you like about it over other ranges? Do you have to setup your own target stands or are they electronic? Usually go to the BH when I don't want to take the drive to CR. Do they allow drawing from holster and quick double shots?

PM me with what you want and look to put an order together within a week or two. I'm going to keep it under 50 lb limit as to not pay additional hazmat. I'm probably in for around 10-15lbs of powder and primers.

From what I've been researching, it seems that KWA is superior to the WE in terms of quality, accuracy and gas efficiency. I was ready to get the WE CQB Master Alpha as a platform to upgrade to an open airsoft gun, but am second guessing it and may go with one the KWA 1911 PTP models...too bad they don't make a 2011 style PTP.

Z71 - which one did you get and how's the quality and accuracy? AndyB - If I get a non-CO2, I was planning on getting a propane adapter instead of using green gas...it does save a lot. However, I have about 40 C02 cartriges already so I'm open either way. I'm concerned about the quality as well. Just want to make sure I don't buy junk that would break in a month.

The way I look at it is that I can go to a range and shoot a few hundred rounds at paper and that would cost around $40-50 for each session. If I want to do any real action shooting, I would have to go to specific events which usually eats up several hours of my time and are only on weekends. I was thinking that I can setup some targets in the backyard or garage and practice whenever I want for as long/little as I want. While it's not the real thing, I'm guessing it's better than just dryfiring (will continue to do that as well). I just don't want to buy junk that I won't use as well as not have to spend several hundred on a airsoft pistol.

I'm considering getting an airsoft pistol to practice when I can't get to the range. Anyone have any suggestions on what to get? I was looking at the WE CQB Master Alpha: http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_45_252&products_id=31322 or the KWA PTP MK 3: http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=32938

That's for converting the 10 rounders to 12 rounders. The mod I was talking about was to cut down the follower to fit 14 rounds. Can't seem to find where I read it.

Not many indoor ranges will let you shoot non-pistol caliber guns. If you want somewhere to shoot your AR, Cherry Ridge may be the closest to you. The Sunday matches at Tenafly are a lot of fun and have really nice people there. It's been pretty quiet this summer. If they don't have 9+ people shooting a match, they cancel it and just make it a practice session. I'll probably be there this Sunday. If you go, let me know and I can show you around.

I'm looking to put an order for powder and primers from Powder Valley. Anyone want to join in on a group buy? I can meet you somewhere in Bergen County or at the Tenafly, Bullet Hole or Cherry Ridge ranges.

You'll see more of a difference if you reload using different grain bullets and powders versus trying different grain factory ammo. I've shot 147gr with a fast powder and it's MUCH softer feeling than factory 115gr. I use 124gr as it's softer, knocks down steel better and isn't much more expensive than 115's...much bigger jump in price going to 147's.

Anyone try the aluminum shok-buffs? Can't imagine the dampen better than the plastic buffs. Also, I read that the thicker ones prevent slide lock and/or slide lock reloads. Any truth to this?

There's also a mod to the mags that makes them 14 rounders. I didn't bother...I have 5 of the 12 rounders The SR22 is smaller than the M&P...similar to the P22. The M&P22 is the same size as a fullsize M&P.

No jelly (of any kind) for me . I'll give the Birchwood Casey stuff a try. thanks.