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Cheaper alternative... Ruger SP101 More expensive alternative... S&W 317, 617 (go with the more versatile 317) Budget goodness... 992 Used at an extremely good price... Taurus 94, 990, Charter Arms Pathfinder, and any of the above in used and good condition Single Action Goodness... Ruger Single Six McBethr had a great point. And besides, you don't want your wife too knowledgeable, or interested in your gun purchases. Do you? In fact I buy guns that look alike. If my wife doesn't see the two Glock's together, kind of thing, then she doesn't know what is afoot. Just as I don't question shoe purchases, even though my section of the closet gets smaller and smaller. I have picked up FID papers for her a couple of times and she has lost/misplaced them. Now it is her turn to take the initiative if she wants to.

And, with a solid .22 revolver, if you banged him on the head with it or threw an all-metal one at the bad guy and hit him, that might stop him. I would not want to get hit in the head with a 617.

This would be nice, but I wish Ruger or aftermarket grips were available for it that would fit the full hand. Maybe the laser grips are longer, I don't know. I would have her hold it, as having that pinky dangling off may not be fun for shooting practice.

I had to get a Ruger SP101 repaired, however, it was probably made on the very first day of production. Ruger took care of it lock, stock and barrel and it functions beautifully, now. However, I would avoid a revolver unless your wife tries it first. Rimfire revolvers have extremely heavy triggers and it is hard to cock the hammer. If she is comfortable with your GP100, she may not be with the .22LR. I do not like the Taurus 94 revolvers, but if you can find a 992 in 4" barrel, that would be nice. It would have the .22LR for practice and the .22WMR for defense, and if you had problems, Taurus does have a lifetime warranty. I am also very fond of the Ruger LCR in .22, although the price is a little steep. If one of those came out with a combo .22LR/.22WMR, I would have to get it. The grips may not be suitable, though. I would really suggest something else other than a revolver. The first thing that comes to my mind is a Ruger 22/45 Lite with a 5 1/2" barrel, or a standard Ruger Mark III w/ a 4 3/4" barrel (if you want all-steel). On the Mark III, avoid the bull barrel as that would add more weight for your wife. The regular-barreled Standard is about 3/4 of a pound more than the Lite model 22/45. Yes, the 22/45 is aluminum, but Ruger will stand behind it and at 22 ounces, the weight will be right for your wife and/or kids. As a defensive gun, though, I would not have a problem with a 3" barrel, and because of the design, a 3" barrel in a revolver is more like a 4" barrel, while a 3" barrel in a semi-automatic is, well a 3" barrel. I would seriously look at a Ruger SR-22 and let her try it, and also, if you can find a Bersa .22 that would also be very nice. The Ruger trigger could certainly be a little lighter, but the Bersa is nice. The Bersa's are reliable as long as you use quality heavier .22s w/ a little more kick (which you would want to do for defensive purposes anyway). Magazines are expensive and hard to get, though, but Bersa's may have a lifetime warranty (if I remember). Also, she could move up to say a Bersa .380 or 9, eventually, which would give her even more protective possibilities and she would have a practice gun. You really cannot go wrong on any of the Rugers. A Buckmark would also be very nice. The single action triggers are much easier to manage than the pull of a revolver trigger. The only two other thoughts that come to my mind would be a S&W M&P 22 or a GSG/SIG 1911-22. After all of that rambling, I say get a Ruger Mark III w/ a 4 3/4" barrel of all-steel goodness.

I root for the elder .45 Colt.

First handgun, Taurus 66... It isn't my favorite, but we have bonded and it is accurate and well-made. Still, if a S&W Model 60 came around, I might have to let her go... I did make a mistake with my 2nd handgun. The Beretta 92FS was awesome, but it just was a little too big in my hands. I still regret letting it go but she has a replacement I like better. For me, guns are tools. There are certainly guns I admire, but if it doesn't fit my purpose I wouldn't get it.

The citizen should be able to have ANYTHING that is personally issued to law enforcement officers. If they have 17 round magazines, then the law-abiding citizen should have them as well. If the citizen cannot defend himself with 15-round magazines, and has to stick with 10, then the police should have a limit of 10, too. And, if a F'd up Hicap ban is put on the people, then there should be the utmost severity for criminals caught with them and/or if they are used in a crime. This is such a ridiculous bit of legislation. A determined gunman could do just as much damage with (6) 10-round magazines as someone that has (2) thirty rounders. No common sense. Just knee-jerk reactions and an agenda. This will just harm the firearms industry and hurt the HONEST gun owner. Maybe they should make a 5-round capacity and start collecting revolver's, too. When will the Sheeple wake up?

Maybe the criminals will trade their hicap mags in for crack.

I would agree that I doubt that it will become extremely popular, especially given the Charter Arms tag. I think it will do better than you would consider, though. The biggest consideration, though, is why would anyone spend $400 plus, when a used Glock, M&P, CZ, Springfield Armory, etc. can be had for roughly the same price and would make a lot more sense as a 9mm. There are more practical guns out there that would better, specifically, against multiple attackers that are lighter, have a higher capacity, have a lot of upgrade potential, can be faster to load, and probably have better ergonomics. Still a 9mm revolver has a certain niche. If I was able to conceal carry and wanted to carry a small, steel revolver for the benefits that that brings to the table, I would want it to be in 9mm or .40S&W, especially if I had quality moon clips to go with it. The inability to use them does detract some from the Charter Arms, but the ability not to have to have them is also attractive. Would I rather have the Charter Arms or a Glock 26 or M&P Shield, I would get the Shield or Glock first.

This is a different time than in earlier on when the 9mm revolvers were released. That was back when .38/.357s were the thing to have, and, because police were still using them ammo was plentiful and cheap. And, there was a lot of versatility with being able to shoot both .38s and .357s. Nowadays revolvers are still popular, but they don't command the market share that they once had because they are not polymer and striker fired. Additionally, the price of ammunition is going up. For someone that shoots 9mms due to recoil/cost, etc., it isn't that practical to stock another round of ammunition, and more expensive to boot. Additionally, there is a survival mentality out there because of the things that have been happening and having a 9mm that can shoot anything and has a certain type of niche in the concealed carry and backup gun market would be a pretty good thing. And, there are people that just enjoy shooting revolvers and it makes sense to standardize the ammunition and get the benefits of a revolver and the trigger control, etc. that it brings to the table. And, all of this coupled with the fact that this will be a competitively priced revolver in one of the most popular calibers. As long as it is of decent quality and functions well, it should have a lot of interest in the private firearms market. I'd certainly like to check one out.

Conditioning. Conditioning both the police and the population

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Here is a Ruger Speed Six in 9mm with moon clips in all of its glory! Anyone that shoots 9mm regularly and loves revolvers should find one, but it commands a premium price, now. It has a 2.75" barrel, It is built like a tank, fast to load and unload with moon clips, can handle any 9mm round it finds, and easy to load those clips with a tool, and it has fabulous revolver ergonomics (just feels good in the hand, esp. w/ Hogue grips). Oh, did I say it feels amazing in one's hand (It is in between an SP101 and GP100 in size and has six and not five round payload. Ruger stopped making it and replaced it with the GP100 because the GP100 was "inferior" and cheaper to make. It's heft makes it more than manageable with hot 9mms. I would not pass up on one of these in .357 or 9mm if it could be had at a good price. No, it is not a Smith, but it is definitely awesome and the full moon clips can be found. I wouldn't mess with the BS half moon one's though. If the Charter Arms is half as good it would be a steal at the price being offered. And its not made of blasted polymer. However, if you wanted to conceal carry, you would lose reloading speed with the Charter Arms. And, with the Charter Arms you would not risk carrying a somewhat rare firearm. The SP101 can also be found in 9mm, but other than a smaller (and hence more concealable) cylinder and an easier and shorter grip to conceal, it lacks the payload and full-size grip of the Speed Six.

See, this is what police should be doing and not looking for seat belts. If they are going to violate your rights, it might as well be for a fast frisk. Bloomberg would be frisking everyone if he was a beat cop. And, I wonder if Rom will allow those new thugs he hired to freely frisk? I think the Capital Police should frisk every congressman they see. How's that for profiling?

All I can say is I want dibs on Lunker's Scout Squad when it goes up for sale.

Maybe, but it is made in America (whatever that means) and has a lifetime warranty and might be at a good price point. And, it might pay for itself if you like shooting revolvers, as 9mm is cheaper than .38, .357.

You can also find the gun you want, too, and have it shipped to a local dealer. You would have to pay a transfer fee and a background check fee and the tax on the two of them, and of course the shipping and handling fee for the item to be sent to them. That could easily be $53.50 (or more, Nicks and transfer) + $30.00 (shipping to the vendor, FFL who shipped it to you), or about $85.00 tacked on to your purchase price. If you find it priced competitively on line, then even with all of those fees you might break out even or perhaps a little bit better on the item than if you bought it through the dealer, personally. Some local dealers will tack on an additional amount if you are ordering a new gun or if it is something that they can order directly for you, but usually not if it is used. And, each local dealer seems to have a different transfer and NICS fee, so call around locally. Usually, if my dealer is reliable (will have it when he tells me he will), and he can get it, I would be willing to pay the extra few bucks (up to $25-30) to get it through him (as long as I don't feel he is price-gouging me). Either way, you won't get to really preview it before purchasing it, so you really need to know what you want (unless you order it through your local vendor and he allows you to back out and puts it in his store inventory). I have had dealers tell me they would order it, etc. and that it is available, only to find out when you expect it in, etc. that it wasn't available. I have had dealers that took a deposit on an in-stock item for me to hold it until permits ready (with OGAM) and then it was sold out from under me and no longer in stock when I came to pick it up at the arranged day and time. I have also had dealers give me the price on something they had in stock and then add a shipping and handling fee onto that price when writing up the gun, to which I then declined. That should have been added in the price in the beginning. And, a range/shop might let you try a gun before buying it and deduct the range fee off of your purchase price if you get one that they have in stock.

In my opinion, this is pretty neat, and would make for a nice carry and/or backup if you usually carry 9mm. However, it would have more recoil than a semi-auto and it would be slow to load due to the design and lack of ability to use moon clips of some kind. However, it's American made and if it is decent quality I might consider getting one once it's really available. Since it's a six-shot, it might be a little less compact for better concealment. It would also be a nice thing to add to a survival battery. Charter Arms Introduces 9mm Rimless Revolver PITBULL

Sounds like a wackadoodle looking for attention, to me. I wonder if he is secretly on Soros's payroll to make conservatism look bad by showing himself as idiotic. Still, that is a nice shirt.

For me, the SR22's trigger is not the best, and I don't like the direction of the safety. It works opposite to 1911s and other thumb safeties that are typical. If Ruger had done it right, the safety and the trigger would have been designed with a little more pizazz. Personally, I would look at a Ruger Mark III or 22/45, or if you can find one in awesome shape, select a Ruger Mark II, but that would be a more of a target and range gun than what you may want, and they aren't that much fun to clean, but not too bad once you learn the tricks. As suggested, the S&W M&P 22 might be a nice and viable option or a GSG 1911-22. I would like to have one of the M&P 22s, but I prefer the steel Rugers over the pot metal M&P or GSG/SIG 1911-22, which I do have an enjoy a lot. Another option would be a Bersa Thunder in .22LR. I like it better than the Ruger SR-22, and they are dependable but require beefier .22s (and not always bulk pack stuff) to work the slide. They are hard to find and parts, etc. would be very hard to find, and magazines are expensive. And, yet, another option might be a Ruger LCR in .22LR. The trigger is heavy DA, but smooth, and I like it. The grip is made to be removable and interchangeable, however, I don't think Ruger and the aftermarket have capitalized on this, yet, except w/ laser grips, and a larger more comfortable and full-size one has not been released for this to my knowledge. Lastly, a larger revolver might be a nice option. I would look at a S&W 317, 617, Ruger SP101, or a Taurus 992 combo (.22LR, .22WMR). There are pluses and minuses to revolvers, but they typically have heavy triggers and teh hammer is heavy to pull back and shoot in single action. I believe a Ruger SP101 was for sale in the market section. Depending on your budget, you might want to get a Glock and a conversion barrel, or perhaps a SIG or CZ with a conversion barrel. Then you would have the flexibility of two guns. As a side note, you could get a Glock 23 and a 9mm conversion barrel for about $100 more and an Advantage Arms conversion kit and some magazines and have the ability to shoot .22LR, 9mm, and .40S&W. You would have to pickup some G19 magazines, though, and you could also get a .357 SIG barrel for that gun as well, which would make it quite versatile, and afterall, it is a Glock. One other note, though, the .22 conversion kit makes a very light, almost toy-like gun at the range and would have limited help in allowing you to practice to handle the larger calibers.

+1 for Dan. The problem is that there can be no compromise, because, just as in taxing and spending its never enough, there would NEVER be enough "common sense" gun legislation.

Thank God we have attorneys that can walk on water, too. .

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Yes, a revolver is nice, but it isn't what I am looking for. I would consider a Ruger LCR .22LR, though, if I could get a larger grip for it. A Bersa or an M&P 22 seem to be the closest to what I am looking for. Maybe I should open up a manufacturing plant in my garage and design what I am looking for...

I like it. Has anybody had any experiences with the new CZ that can handle .22LR, .22WMR, and .17?