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Story on the Drudge Report from the NYT's about the safe act and mental health checks. About 50,000 people have had their rights infringed upon because of seeing a psychiatrist. Medical industry personnel even say " That seems extraordinarily high to me " Gun owners should be extremely cautious if you go to a psychiatrist, If you feel the need to go and a bartender or friend can't help you please use cash and not your medical insurance. You do not want anything like this on any data base anywhere.

there is a case going before the SCOTUS , Heien v. North Carolina that might help with MV stops if we win. It might help out with a lot of search related confrontations.

After reading the story on Ammoland.com today about the DC council's permitting scheme it is clear that the SAF will have to appeal this to the SCOTUS.

I read on the NRA-ILA site that the DC mayor signed an emergency carry law. Qualified citizens will be able to start "applying" on Oct 22. It will be interesting to see who exactly has "good cause" or "justifiable need" and if the courts allow their permitting scheme as they copied NJ's or Maryland's laws which has already survived the circuit courts. Maybe this one will force SCOTUS to hear the case but by than who knows what "Chief Justice Holder" will do.

What is the current status of any CCW cases that might benefit American's who live with the NJ borders. Anything pending or is our only relief going to be a national reciprocity law. Checking some of my regular sites that provide this info don't seem to say much. Have we exhausted all pending cases.

This guy Fulop is dangerous, He is positioning himself for the next gubernatorial race here in NJ and it will be important to stop him. Since the republican primary in NJ is really worthless since no republican will ever win the seat in our lifetimes thanks to Christie and his corrupt liberal actions we again will be forced to vote for the "lesser of two evils" at the polls. We will be stuck with voting for the republican/independent challenger to 1. Norcross, 2. Sweeny, or 3. Fulop, so we will have to decide who the lesser of the evils are and vote in the democratic primary for that person as the challenger to the "republican" if there are really any in NJ anyway. If ALL gun owners switched their party affiliation to undeclared now, We can decide if it would be worth it to vote in either the republican or democratic primary, Maybe some of you know what I'm trying to explain, It is a strategy that the Dems have used quite successfully in the past to "choose" the republican candidates in many states knowing they would be easier to beat.

Christie gets to duck the second amendment issue again. I agree with others, Its good for Shaneen but bad for the rest of us, This really needed to be addressed by a jury nullification or by the supreme court.

My take on this is that the democrats know that right to carry is coming to NJ one way or the other and they are getting things "set up" for when it does. Don't be surprised if its a fifty dollar increase each year and don't be surprised when other gun related "fees" go up. If I remember the NYC fees were fought in court and they were found to be OK so don't think we will get any relief from the courts on the amount of the fees. Now is the time to start planning the next gubernatorial election. Since it does not matter one bit who the republican/Independent/RINO challenger is going to be it is more important for us to try to pick the least damaging democrat in the primary. Change your party affiliation to undeclared and vote in the democratic primary. The people who run these forums should organize a voting strategy now. Rumors of fulop running are popping up( I still can't believe this guy was a marine) and he most certainly needs to be stopped.

I think its time for the firearm and shooting sport industry to counter these anti-gun attitudes towards these gun buybacks. if all the big firearms mfgs. could each produce a gun that fits the criteria for a turn in but produce it extremely cheap, thousands of us could "obtain" these guns and turn them in for a profit thus bankrupting these fools and than buy guns that are good. they can be built to be "similar" to the so called assault weapons for maximum turn in value. buy a "turn in" for say 20 bucks and turn it in for 2-300 bucks. since it's no questions asked no need to worry about paper work or FID or anything. use the ATF definition of what a firearm is, add NJ's stupid regulations and produce a "gun" for turn in purposes. I'm wondering if I cut out a gun shape stock, screwed on a 20" piece of pipe, glue on a cardboard "magazine clip" of say 75 rounds and of course PAINT IT BLACK would I make a profit? would anyone accepting it be able to tell the difference?

They cut and pasted from NJ's laws just as I said anti-gun states would, Now what has to happen is for the first denial when someone puts down "self defense" or "second amendment" as a reason to fight it up to the SCOTUS. The accepted reasons for approval will be constantly changing with every blow of the wind, Next police chief, Mayor, city council so on and so on. So it looks like this is going to have to be fought again.

They should have included info on jury nullification for any potential jurors.

They are probably creating this law to set up an infrastructure for future confiscation. we will probably be required to turn in any gun and freedom related books at the same time so the legislature can burn them in a ceremony at the collection points.

I always try to post the link but this site won't allow cut and paste, really not sure why not. Someone explained it a while ago as to how do it but I'm not reconfiguring my computer just for one site.

NJ.Com has story on a bill about a statewide gun buyback program.

The base requires such a environmental clean up that nothing is going to happen there for years. The abandoned houses will make a great "Weird NJ" story 30 years from now when the clean up is still ongoing.

I find the story about Washington State very interesting because when I lived there in the mid 80's it was one of the most 2A respecting states in the country, Now only 30 years later the radical left has started to make attempts to compete with the NE liberal states. Back then you got your CCW and that was it, No wait, no other forms except the 4473 when you purchased it, and there were about a gazillion FREE places to go have fun. I think I spent most of my paychecks at McCann's gun shop in Spanaway and the rest at the Gun Show in Puyallup. I guess when changes occur over time and citizens allow politicians to continuously erode our rights a grain at a time this is what happens and this is why all forms of infringements on our rights has to be fought. Gun owners / patriots throughout the country need to be aware, Many times when talking with like minded patriots in other states they always wonder about how we NJersians are where we are with the infringements imposed upon us yet when I try to warn them how easy they can loose their rights I get the same old " They'll never get away with that here" well now I see Wa State slowly slipping down the slope. I recently tried to warn gun owners on nationwide form about the evils of Chris Christie and his true anti-gun feelings and to only believe him when his mouth is closed. Tried to explain about how if he appointed a true constitutionalist as his first AG rather than the radical liberal Paula Dow we might have CCW now, I included links to articles and information about him and his thoughts on guns and these forum owners eventually banned me and accused me of trying to divide people. so I quietly left and wished NJ style gun control on all of them.

Once the November elections are over they will be singing their same old tune. This is a non-story, Griz has it right that it will never pass a constitutional review.

The judge goes on to say that there should be billboards advising people that guns are not allowed in NJ, I see 2 problems with that, The first being it would have be written in Russian or Chinese and the second is that Americans don't need billboards telling them what rights are allowed there already is a document telling us them!!!

Washington post has a story about the ongoing carry case in which the stay expires on Oct 22nd. District politicians want more time to craft a law and by the sounds of it they are looking into something I have mentioned here before, They are examining states like Maryland, NY, NJ that have survived the circuit level of a citizen have to show "good cause" or "justifiable need" . So it looks like they will just copy and paste from laws like ours. go to NRA ILA for the link

Back in 1983 I purchased a pellet rifle from the Paramus store, having only been my 4th or 5th gun purchase since I got my first FID card I was kind of new to the whole stupid process, especially for a pellet rifle. well now about 30 years later I find out the knucklehead behind the counter actually did a "voluntary" registration form and now that pellet rifle is on my file of all the pistols I purchased in NJ. the last thing anybody wants is a registered gun and these knuckleheads did it.

I'm afraid the prosecutor is going to be "instructed" by higher authority to make this go away, The last thing Christie wants is going to have to explain his lack of action and leadership to the rest of the country about his true views of the second amendment. This case needs to go to trial and the jury needs to give a not guilty verdict. Jurists need to know that all of NJ's gun laws are based on rulings that have been made obsolete and need to know this in advance as the judge will instruct them on NJ's unconstitutional laws and not current supreme or circuit court rulings.

NJ.COM has another story of another victim of NJ's senseless gun laws, A Saddle Brook man had his collection confiscated because HE was the victim of an aggravated assault.

whats the secret to posting links on these forums, when I try it, it never lets me

perhaps a group of citizens exercising their 1st amendment rights holding large placards at the courthouse explaining jury nullification? maybe some public service announcements, mailers or billboards explaining the same.

Not sure if this was covered elsewhere but 101.5 covered this topic this morning and said a politician (not sure who, didn't recognize the name) wanted sponsor a bill that would protect American citizens who for whatever reason find themselves behind enemy lines and get caught with a gun and they are permit holders from their home state that the judge has to be more lenient on them. anyone else catch the name of the politician, I would like to call him and let him know that WE, NJ citizens are also entitled to our constitutional rights. Also sounds like this will be a jury trial, what's the chance of educating the jury on "jury nullification" for this case. Potential jurists need to learn their duties on unconstitutional laws. It would be nice if the jury shoved it up the prosecutors ass.