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I can not see the courts ruling against "outside the home" , currently there are 40+ states that have a right to carry and shall issue. You don't think for a second that the free states are going to surrender their rights. SCOTUS has only way to rule on this and if they try to rule against the U.S. than that will cause a bigger problem in this country than in 1861.

I believe one of the main reasons we do are so far behind is the fact we have an APPOINTED AG, If the AG did not have kow tow to the governor and we voted in a CONSTITUTIONAL abiding AG than we might have a chance at forcing change. All the AG would have to do is what many of these circuit court judges have recently said such as finding that NJ's current firearms laws are unconstitutional and force the legislature to bring them into compliance with the US Constitution or face contempt charges.

What will be important in this case is that the judge gave the illinois legislature 180 days to come up with a law that allows for carrying, What the court does in 180 days if the legislature fails to "craft" a law will tell. Can the entire legislature be slapped with contempt of court? Can the court decide what is to be the law?

Can someone request their own mental health background check?

On another note I just heard from a fellow firearm enthusiest that Vernon is adding forms to the requirements for permits. They want to know EVERY place you lived at, EVER. can anyone confirm this.

I believe the Maryland court case is starting today, the 24th. This fight is very much like ours with that justifible need clause.

A friend of mine is a cop and has a PO box number on his license in a town that is not even close to where he lives, I wonder how that works. It is perfectly legal and when my license comes due I will be doing the same for security reasons.

What about the guy from Utah?

"OTM" sorry, I'm acronym challenged. what does it mean?

I think the case from Maryland is supposed to heard in October, I think that was the 4th circuit?? They seem pretty much the same argument "justifiable need"

Did anyone see the article on NJ.Com about the homeowner/trooper who shot a bear entering his house. this is what the DEP said "The DEP determined Kenyon acted appropriately, Hajna said. He said because the bear caused property damage, the encounter qualified as a "Class 1" bear incident," so we will be able to use this same defense in the future, right?

Can anyone help me on making a 18 shot marlin NJ legal. Thanks

Were you stationed in Washington State? I was at Ft Lewis back in the mid 80's. At that time it was one of only a few shall issue states. The Western Washington gun collectors show at Puyallup was the best monthly show in the country.

Sagem Morpho is the perfect example of "privitazation" of a government function. Something that in the past was handled by the town/county/state for a small fee gets privitizied and now WE have no options or recourse on the high costs of the privitazation that was supposed to save money. This same process will occur with any privatization that occurs be it trash collection, running state parks, DMV and so on. As much as some people don't like government workers as they think they cost tax payers too much they do perform their functions without politics or profits. Several years ago I had to get fingerprinted for an adoption and had to have it done 3 times for 3 different agencies, Why couldn't I just use my current SBI number for them to access, Because some politician had to make a profit. I would like to know the political connection of SM to the NJ politician/polticians.

Just wondering about the SAF lawsuit and if anyone knows why the defendants are named "in their capacity as" what ever title they are and why they are not named personally, They are the ones denying ones civil rights so should be named as citizens just as the police officers who were charged in the rodney king trial. If these people had to pay for their crimes than maybe they wouldn't be so fast to deny permits. also would the SAF have to amend the suit since their is a new AG.

I don't think this topic gets the attention it should, I don't think people who have not had to apply for a change of address realize the impact of this question. The wording on question 26 was changed sometime in 09 and proir to that it only stated "inpatient" which some people might think is reasonable to investigate but "outpaitent" could mean anything and it would be up to you to defend yourself for simply seeking help while a family member is terminally ill or killed in a accident or a veteran coming back from defending the constitution. When a individual seeks assistance from a doctor/counciler should be of no importance to obtaining a NJ FOID nor any business of police officers or legal system since no crimes were commited.and if that person made a statement to a doctor that they were going to harm themselfs or someone else the court would have been involved. A citizen should be able to obtain their personal records, the exact same records as the police seem to be able to. I believe the question 26 dilemma should be addressed before the departments that request additional forms or take more than 30 days to issue since neither of those issues can cause a denial but only a delay. question 26 is and will be a "catch 22" for many including many law enforcment first responders who may have been at the WTC attacks, veterans, or gun owners who have owned firearms for their entire life and now only because they have to fill out a unnecessary change of address run the possibility of being denied or having to check "yes" box for the rest of their lives in NJ.

I wonder if their is a way for you to obtain your own records and where you would apply for to obtain them, This way you would know what might come up.

xshawnearthx, I wonder what records they checked to find this as it was not court ordered. My concern is similar for something over 25 years ago. before the "updated" question 26 on the current form I had no concerns at all. I have recently been issued my Utah and Florida permits and I would think if I was prohibited they would not have been issued.

I asked this question a while back and I think it's time for Nappen or someone "in the know" on what exactly do they investigate and what data bases they check if any. I tried to do some research and what I found was that on the FPID application form with a revision date of 3/05 for the question about being "treated or observed" by any doctor or psychiatrist ( i think question 26) and the only difference that I found was the word "outpatient" was added to the current form where the previous form only stated "inpatient" which would make the question identical to question 24. So something tells me they are up to something. I also called my insurance provider and requested all my medical records on file from any mental health provider since I had Insurance claims and none of them fall into the wording of the question that might entrap me, "mental or psychiatric condition" . What needs to be investigated by an attorny for the members of the firearm community of NJ is what databases are search IF ANY and what information do they rely on, How far back are records kept, what other than the mental health records requested on the SP-66 waiver can be checked legally. I feel that this question is requesting you to volunteer information that is not nor can be found out by the police. I also asked a several troopers about this and explained my concerns and they both said just answer no, I do know they are not lawyers so I'm still weary of this question. I hope Nappen or one of the many experts on these forums can get to the bottom of what do they check, If I can get my records for the last 15 years from my insurance provider , what can they check thaht I can't check myself?

Just because there are no bills in NJ posted to further attack the 2A don't think for a second that high ranking politicos within the NJSP are not in talks with elected officials (law and public safety committe) advising them on how "diasterous" it would be for NJ to have simple ordinary american citizens having firearm carry permits. As we all type here they are burning the midnight oil crafting a policy to take a pre-emptive strike against national reciprocity if it should become law of the land.

NJ.com did the same to my password, If you strike them with truth and facts you are quickly banned. I had to re-register with a new name and password.

Hello, Can anyone recommend a family camp ground Somewhere in PA. that has row boat rentals, fishing and swimming for the kids. I would like it to have private sites where I can park my van and walk to the lake as well as a place for the wife to wash up. I'm only interested in gun friendly states, If you know any in another gun friendly state that too would be considered. also preferibily a private campground vs. a state park. THanks

Question 28 on STS033 "Are you presently, or have you ever been a member of ANY orginization which advocates or approves the comision of acts of force and violence, either to overthrow the goverment of the United States or of this State , or which seeks TO DENY OTHERS THEIR RIGHTS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF EITHER THE UNITED STATES or of new jersey? If yes, list name and address of orginization. So any chief of police, superintendent of state police, member of the judicary, politician would legally have to answer YES to this question? If not why not. Why even ask this question on a firearm form in NJ when THEY are the ones violating it.

I feel the State is under orders from chrisite to take a pro-active attack on national reciprocity and any pro 2A supreme court decisions that may be forthcoming. make no mistake about this it comes straight from chrisite.

"may be tapped by Romney as a VP contender" VP would be the best place to squirrel him away,as he would be pretty much harmless their, Gun owners throught the U.S. should be more concerned with him as USAG, He would not be much different than Holder or Reno.