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Kentucky is pretty good. But the process for a carry permit is rather detailed compared to other states. 8 hour safety course ($80), videos, range time, live fire, open book test then wait a month you get a certificate. Take the Certificate to the sheriff and now you can fill out the application ($60), get photographed and wait another month or so. (Other states like PA are easier to get a carry permit). Open carry with no permit Carry loaded in the car, with no permit (glove box, center console, factory installed compartment or out in the open) If it is legal federally, it is legal here All NFA Strong preemption laws No permits to purchase Federal NICS

Arizona Alaska Vermont Wyoming Correct it is not perfect by any means, but at least reciprocity with other states is not needed in that case. Correct and I think that is the case in Michigan, Minnesota and Nebraska as well.

The least amount of hoops to jump through is the best. But in those states that do have to jump through hoops, like the 'permit to purchase' schemes (like NJ does)... it is often managed better and more "streamlined"...understand that I am NOT a fan of "permit to purchase" schemes in any way. While I doubt that NJ will ever be a hoop free state, but in other states as illustrated here ..it can be managed a lot better. The purpose of all this is to illustrate that hoop jumping can be done with more efficiency. If NJ streamlined the process, the amount of manpower could be reduced and the police can be better used for catching criminals and solving crimes instead of pushing antiquated and redundant paperwork. For instance Nebraska is interesting in that their certificate is good for three years for any number of handguns. So there is only hoop to jump through every three years. Even their instant check is only $3.00. And I mentioned in another thread, Illinois requires the FOID and there is a 3 day waiting period for handguns and a 1 day waiting period for long guns....but beyond that no other hoops to jump through. And as bad as Illinois is, if you have a carry permit from another state...you can carry concealed in your car in Illinois if you don't get out of it. If New Jersey had that law in place, nobody would have heard of Shaneen Allen . http://www.isba.org/ibj/2013/12/thenewillinoisconcealedcarrylaw "The law allows nonresidents without an Illinois CCL to transport a concealed handgun in their vehicles as long as they are not prohibited from owning or possessing firearms under federal law and are eligible to carry firearms in their home states. Nonlicensed nonresidents may not leave the vehicle with the concealed firearm and must lock it in the vehicle if they leave the vehicle unattended."

There have been court challenges in Hawaii which has the same "may issue laws" no issue as New Jersey http://www.guns.com/2014/03/21/aloha-federal-court-strikes-hawaiis-may-issue-practice-unconstitutional/

Hawaii and New Jersey handgun laws are similar In researching these laws, I found it interesting that Hawaii is very similar to New Jersey's "permit to purchase a handgun" scheme. There is a separate permit to purchase for each handgun and it must be used in 10 days. It must be registered with the police. There is a one time fingerprint fee. There is a 14 day waiting period for applying for a permit. Both handguns and long guns are registered. For the longest time Hawaii which was the only state that required registration of both handguns and long guns up until recently. Then California required registration of hand guns and now long guns as of January 1 2014. In addition a safety course is required to purchase a handgun in Hawaii. It looks like there is some sort of Firearm Card ID card scheme as well for long guns. To purchase long guns Hawaii "requires a permit" (good for a year) for an number of long guns. In addition Hawaii has an assault weapons ban and bans magazines greater than 10 rounds. Looks like this has been in effect since July 1992. http://www.hawaiirifleassociation.org/hawaii-gun-laws When did Hawaii's gun laws come about.....It seems like around 1980 or 1981 when the registration of firearms came about about after a Waikiki sniper incident in 1979. https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=11256.0 "The first gun control laws followed an incident in 1980 or 81. A guy named Miller was released from the state mental hospital in Kaneohe. He caught a city bus to town, where he bought a .22 bolt action rifle and a brick of ammo from one of the sporting goods stores in downtown Honolulu. King, I think. He took that stuff on another bus to Waikiki, where the Royal Hawaiian Shopping Center was under construction. He went into one of the upper floors and started firing at people on the sidewalks." In 1990 mandatory registration of all firearms " At one point, I think in the 1990s, after mandatory registration was enacted, gun owners were advised to bring in the weapons they had obtained earlier and register them. If you didn't take 'em in, the state and city have no record of 'em. The only way the authorities would know about such a weapon would be if someone informs them or they happen upon it, for example, if you took it out in public or committed a crime." Here it says that rifles were sold in Sears and elsewhere without registration. "But you could buy rifles at Sears Ala Moana and many local stores for years afterwards without having to register them." So maybe handguns were already registered and rifles were not until later in the 1990's. Hawaii, Maryland and New Jersey are staunch no issue "may-issue" states, meaning that the chance to get a carry permit are near zero. However in the case of Hawaii, there has been some court challenges. http://www.guns.com/2014/03/21/aloha-federal-court-strikes-hawaiis-may-issue-practice-unconstitutional/ “Hawaii’s Attorney General and law enforcement leaders will oppose shall issue as will our current liberal Legislature,” Dr. Max Cooper, president of the Hawaii Rifle Association told Guns.com Friday. “It is time for more people to apply for permits and another hearing on a shall issue bill in the 2015 Hawaii Legislature.” In some cases both Hawaii's and New Jersey's gun laws are similar. Hawaii http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/hawaii.aspx PURCHASE No person shall acquire the ownership of a firearm1, either by purchase, gift, inheritance, bequest, or in any other manner, whether procured in Hawaii or imported, until he has first procured from the chief of police of the county of his place of business, residence, or sojourn a permit to acquire. Each chief of police may issue permits within his jurisdiction to citizens of the U.S. who are at least 21 and to duly accredited official representatives of foreign nations. No permit shall be issued to an applicant earlier than 14 calendar days after the date of application. Permits to acquire a pistol or revolver require a separate application and permit for each transaction. Permits issued to purchase any rifle or shotgun entitles the permittee to make subsequent purchases of rifles or shotguns for a period of one year from the date of issue and does not require a separate application and permit for each transaction. No person shall be issued a permit for the acquisition of a pistol or revolver unless the person has completed a firearms safety training course. The permit shall be void unless used within 10 days after the date of issue. In all cases where possession of a firearm is acquired from another person in Hawaii, the permit shall be signed by its holder and shall be delivered to the person who is transferring title to the firearm. The transferor is required to provide information on the permit including the name of the person to whom the firearm, rifle or shotgun was transferred and a description of the firearm, including serial number, and then deliver or send the permit by registered mail to the chief of police within 48 hours. If the firearm is obtained by any method from sources outside Hawaii, the person to whom the permit has been issued is required to fill out the permit and deliver or mail the permit by registered mail to the chief of police within 48 hours after taking possession of the handgun. A health care provider or public health authority shall disclose health Information, Including protected health care relating to an individual’s mental health history, to the appropriate county chief of police provided that this Information shall be used solely to evaluate the Individual’s fitness to acquire or own a firearm and the Individual has signed a waiver permitting release of the health care Information for that purpose. Any person acquiring a firearm under the permit is required to register it within five days of acquisition. There is currently a $24.00 ($19.75 at the Honolulu PD), one-time only fingerprinting fee, payable by cash or certified check. © 2014 National Rifle Association of America. Institute for Legislative Action. This may be reproduced. It may not be reproduced for commercial purposes. 11250 Waples Mill Rd. Fairfax, VA 22030 1800-392-8683(VOTE)

"Permit to Purchase Handgun" in four other states So what is the process to buy a handgun in some other states that have a permit to purchase? Lets focus on four states that a have "permit to purchase a handgun" law. How does it differ from New Jersey, how do these states offer a more "streamlined" approach, how many offer a more fairer approach? Which of one of these states do you think New Jersey would adopt? (I believe all the states mentioned below, if one has a carry permit...the "permit to purchase a handgun" is by passed.) I created a poll for this purpose... Note: The information below comes from NRAILA and they give permission to reproduce for non commercial purposes. North Carolina http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/north-carolina.aspx A license or permit must be obtained to purchase, sell, give away, transfer, inherit, or receive a handgun by applying to the county sheriff in which the purchase is to be made or where the receiver resides. A purchase permit is good for five years from the date of issue. Antique firearms are exempted. The sheriff shall issue such license or permit to a resident of that county, unless the purpose of the license or permit is for collecting, in which case a license or permit may be issued to a nonresident. When the sheriff shall have fully satisfied himself as to the good moral character of the applicant, the applicant has successfully completed a criminal history check, and that the applicant desires the possession of the handgun for the protection of the home, business, person, family or property, target shooting, collecting, or hunting, such permit or license shall be issued. For good cause shown, a license or permit may be denied, and within seven (7) days of such refusal a written statement of the reason shall be issued to the applicant. Each applicant for any such license or permit shall be informed within thirty (30) days of the date of such application whether such license or permit shall be granted or denied, and, if granted, such license or permit shall be immediately issued to said applicant. An appeal from such refusal may be made to the Chief Judge of the District Court for the district in which the application was filed. A permit is valid for the purchase of only one handgun. To obtain another handgun, an applicant must procure another permit and must convince the issuing authority that he needs more than one handgun. Michigan http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/michigan.aspx To purchase a handgun from a private individual, the buyer must obtain a license to purchase from the chief of police if the buyer lives in a city or the county sheriff if he lives in an area without an organized police department. The buyer must be 18 years of age, a U.S. citizen, a resident of Michigan, have no felony conviction, have never been adjudged insane (unless later restored by court order). If a individual purchases a pistol from a Federal Firearms Dealer, a License to Purchase is not required. However, a pistol sales record must be completed and the seller's FFL number must be reocrded on that form. The license to purchase must be filled out in triplicate at the time of purchase. The license shall include a description of the handgun sold and the signatures of both the buyer and seller. The seller may retain one copy and the buyer retains a copy, and the last copy is reserved for the Michigan State Police. After purchase and delivery of the handgun is completed, the buyer must return the license to purchase along with the purchased handgun, unloaded and encased or trigger locked, to the local licensing (law enforcement) authority within 30 days. One copy of the license will be held by the local authority for six years and the remaining copy shall be forwarded to the Commissioner of State Police. The license, once issued, becomes void if not used within 30 days. A valid Michigan CCW holder is exempt from license to purchase requirement, however is still subject to the registration requirements and a criminal background (NICS) check. Minnesota http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/minnesota.aspx A handgun or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon may be sold by a dealer to a person who presents a handgun transferee permit or carry permit, or to a person who has undergone a seven (7) day waiting period where a transfer report has been filed. A transferee permit may be obtained at no cost from the police chief of a municipality or the county sheriff. The information requested consists of name, residence, telephone number, driver’s license number or non-qualification certificate number, sex, date of birth, height, weight, eye color, and a statement attesting that the transferee does not fall into any of the disqualifying categories listed under POSSESSION. The police chief or sheriff investigates the applicant and must issue or deny the transferee permit within seven (7) days. The only basis for a denial is if the applicant falls into any of the disqualifying categories listed under POSSESSION. A transferee permit is good statewide for one year to purchase one or more handguns either at one time or at intervals throughout the year. A person without a transferee permit or carry permit must utilize a transfer report in order to purchase a handgun or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon. The transfer report contains the identification information and statement attesting qualification as required in the transferee permit, and must be signed by the transferor and the proposed recipient. The transferor must deliver the report to the police chief or sheriff no later than three (3) days after the date of the agreement to transfer, excluding weekends and legal holidays. No fee is charged for the transfer report. Upon receipt of a transfer report, the police chief or sheriff investigates the potential recipient. A handgun or assault weapon cannot be delivered until five (5) days after the agreement to transfer is delivered to the police chief sheriff. The police may waive all or part of the seven (7) day waiting period. At the end of five (5) days, the handgun or assault weapon may be transferred if the transferor hears nothing unfavorable from the police. There is no restriction on the number of handguns or assault weapons a person may acquire as part of a single transfer report. Once a police determination has been made that a handgun or assault weapon recipient is not prohibited from possessing a handgun or assault weapon, the recipient may, within 30 days after the determination, apply to the police chief or sheriff for a handgun or assault weapon transferee permit, and the permit shall be issued. A person transferring a handgun or assault weapon to a person exhibiting a transferee permit or carry permit is not required to file a handgun or assault weapon transfer report. After a determination has been made that the person receiving a handgun or assault weapon is not precluded from possessing one, the person may request that no record be kept of the fact that he is the recipient of a handgun or assault weapon. The police chief or sheriff shall sign the transfer report and return it to the person receiving the handgun or assault weapon. Thereafter, no government employee or agency shall maintain a record of the transfer that identifies the person who received the handgun or assault weapon. The requirements of a transferee permit, permit to carry, or report of transfer and a seven (7) day waiting period do not apply to transfers between federally licensed firearm dealers or transfers of antique firearms acquired as curiosities or for their historical significance or value. No person shall transfer a handgun or assault weapon to another who is not personally known to the transferor unless the proposed recipient presents evidence of his identity. Nebraska http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/nebraska.aspx To purchase, receive, or sell a handgun, a certificate is required, (includes private sales) unless: The transferee is a federally licensed firearms dealer; It is an antique handgun; The transfer is to a law enforcement agency; It is a temporary transfer and the transferee remains in the line of sight of the transferor or (b) within the premises of an established shooting facility; or The transfer is between a person and his or her spouse, sibling, parent, child, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, or grandparent. Application for the certificate may be made in person or by mail with the sheriff or police chief of the applicant's place of residence. A background check is conducted within 2 days. A fee of $5.00 shall be charged for a criminal history record check. Upon receipt of the application, the chief of police or sheriff shall, within 2 days, issue the certificate or furnish the applicant the specific reasons for the denial in writing. A certificate shall be issued if the applicant is 21 or older and is not prohibited by law from purchasing or possessing a handgun. The certificate is valid throughout the state for 3 years to purchase any number of handguns. No civil liability shall arise to any law enforcement agency that complies with the statute. Any person denied a certificate, whose certificate is revoked, or who has not been issued a certificate upon expiration of the two-day period may appeal within 10 days of receipt of the denial or revocation to the county court of the applicant's place of residence. The applicant shall file with the court the specific reasons for the denial or revocation by the chief of police or sheriff and a filing fee of $10.00 in lieu of any other filing fee required by law. The court shall issue its decision within 30 days of the filing of the appeal. No federally licensed firearms importer, manufacturer, or dealer shall sell or deliver any handgun to another person, other than a licensed importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector, until he has inspected a valid certificate issued to such person and inspected a valid identification containing a photograph of such person; or obtained a completed consent form from the potential buyer or transferee (which form shall be established by the Nebraska State Patrol and provided by the licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer), and inspected a valid identification containing a photograph of such person, and requested by means of a toll-free telephone call that the Nebraska State Patrol conduct a criminal history record check, and have received from the Nebraska State Patrol a unique approval number for such inquiry indicating the date and number on the consent form. The fee for the instant check is $3.00. The instant check may be used in place of the certificate. Exempt from the instant check are importers, manufacturers, collectors, and dealers. © 2014 National Rifle Association of America. Institute for Legislative Action. This may be reproduced. It may not be reproduced for commercial purposes. 11250 Waples Mill Rd. Fairfax, VA 22030 1800-392-8683(VOTE)

Then point about the registration of handguns could be dealt with at POS (Point of sale). Since the State NICS takes of all final transactions anyway. The registration part for the handguns could be done by transcribing the handgun serial over the phone with out the need of a four part over redundant permit to purchase. The State NICS could keep a tally on when a handgun was last bought and they if over the one month period they could give the OK to buy a handgun. In Illinois while they have a firearms card scheme. Their process is much simpler. There is a three day wait for handguns and a one day wait for long guns. Once you have the FOID card, besides the waiting period ...your good to go. That is it, no permit to purchase. I am not advocating firearm cards in any way. I think any kind of Firearms card scheme, permit or licensing is a bad idea. But to satisfy all the anti-gunners in Trenton...one could use Illinois system as an example to streamline the process for New Jersey. But all aside Illinois FID scheme is better than New Jersey's archaic permit to purchase. A much better approach would be to just go to the federal NICS without any kind of BS permit system should be the ultimate goal...although I doubt that would happen in NJ. The NJ State NICS is beyond flawed in my opinion, the hours of operation are limited compared to the Federal NICS system. The thing that sucks about Illinois system is that the card is required to possess firearms and ammo (as well as purchasing of course) whereas New Jersey does not require an FID for possession (as in the case if someone who moved from another state into NJ). http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm I used in a earlier thread the example on how the old NJ police scanner law was thrown out in favor of a new one called S 305 signed into law ironically by Florio. I would suggest following the same example. Draw up a new firearms legislation and use that to replace the old redundant one from 1966. I would use the term "streamlining" when marketing it to the folks in Trenton.

Take the same approach as they did when they repealed the old police scanner scanner law and replaced it with S 305. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.radio.amateur.misc/fDroQdZEa3s In other words have someone write a bill to replace the one on the books. An oversimplification? Yes but I can't think of anything else....

Some states still have permits to purchase... like North Carolina, Michigan, Minnesota and Nebraska....However if one has a carry permit then they can bypass the permit to purchase part. Illinois has a Firearms Owners ID Card, but there is no permit to purchase ...just a 3 day waiting period for handguns and 1 day waiting period for long guns. On the other side of the coin there is Rhode Island with a 7 day waiting period. The NJ FID and permit to purchase handguns should have been dropped long ago. The FID is a relic from 1966 before there was a National Gun Control Law. (Illinois started their FOID in 1968 and Massachusetts in 1969). Still in NJ, no matter what permits a person has, there is the State NICS that has the final say anyway. The Permit to Purchase and the FID is redundant and a tremendous waste of paperwork and police time.

It is being reported on now.... Pennsylvania House moves to expand gun rights, keep pigeon shootshttp://www.guns.com/2014/10/21/pennsylvania-house-moves-to-expand-gun-rights-keep-pigeon-shoots-video/ "The gun rights bill, an amendment to HB 80, an item of metal theft legislation, had passed the state Senate last week by wide margins. It allows groups such as the National Rifle Association to stand in for local citizens in challenging gun city and county control ordinances stronger than the state’s own laws in court. The move sailed through the House in an easy 138-56 vote Monday, the last day of the two-year session. Philadelphia Mayor Michael A. Nutter and Pittsburgh Mayor William Peduto, both of whom have strong anti-gun ordinances on their cities books, were quick to denounce the legislation, which is now headed to the governor’s desk."

Do you have a link? All the Google searches just mentions the Senate passing it from a few days ago. I want to post the info on another site. Thanks

Pennsylvania is much better than Kentucky in that respect. Here we have to pay $80 for an all day safety course, videos, open book, range time, target shooting and then after you pass you wait for a certificate to mailed to you. Take the certificate down to the Sheriff , take some photos of you, fill out an application, pay county fee and state fee $60 total. Then wait for the CDWL (Concealed Deadly Weapons License) to arrive at the Sheriff. Then they notify you that it is ready for pick up.

Is he is using his non profit status for political purposes or excessive lobbying purposes? (see below). He could lose his 501c3. Then the NJ2AS should file a complaint with the IRS and start a lawsuit against his organization....if he is using his non-profit status for political or excessive lobbying purposes. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-much-lobbying-can-nonprofit-do.html "How Much Lobbying is Too Much? The vast majority of nonprofits use the IRS's “substantial part test” to determine how much they can lobby. This is the default test that will be automatically applied to your nonprofit if you don’t make an IRS election to use the other test, called the expenditures test. Churches are required to use this test. Under this test, a nonprofit will qualify for tax-exempt status as long as no “substantial part” of its overall activities relates to influencing legislation or carrying on propaganda. Unfortunately, this has never been clearly defined. The only IRS guidance on the issue is that it will look at “all the pertinent facts and circumstances in each case.” Among the factors the IRS considers are the time devoted to lobbying by both your paid and volunteer workers and the amount of money your organization spends on lobbying. Other factors could be considered as well—for example, the amount of publicity your organization assigns to the activity, the continuous or intermittent nature of your attention to it, and the impact of the lobbying efforts. According to one survey, 85% of nonprofits devote less than two per cent of their budgets to lobbying—well under the five per cent rule of thumb. However, the consequences are severe if you make a mistake and flunk the substantial part test. If the IRS determines that a substantial part of your overall activities relate to lobbying, it will revoke your tax-exempt status for that year. This is a death sentence for most nonprofits because it results in all of the nonprofit’s income being subject to tax. In addition, donors to the organization can not deduct their contributions, and you might have to pay a special excise tax equal to five percent of your lobbying expenditures. This tax can be imposed on your organization’s managers personally if they agreed to the lobbying expenditures knowing that it would likely result in the loss of tax-exempt status. While it may be unlikely that you would find yourself in this position, it is something you want to be aware of because the consequences are so severe." ("Find me a way to revoke Delta's charter their 501c3. You live next door in NJ. Put Neidermeyer the NJ2AS on it ")

Massachusetts FID in contrast to NJ FID Is Massachusetts worse than New Jersey when it comes to gun control laws? Massachusetts got their FID card scheme in 1969 I been studying gun control laws for sometime. I knew that NJ got the FID scheme in 1966 and Illinois got their FID scheme in 1968 (FOID). I finally found when Massachusetts got theirs. It was January 1 1969 even though it was in 1968 when they drafted their legislation up. I thought it was later, in the 1970's. I found this site that lists the history of conceal carry and the FID scheme in Massachusetts. It looks like they got their inspiration from Illinois and New Jersey. http://www.goal.org/truthfulstatspages/truthfulstats.html History of Carry License " 1968 -This was the year that the FID card law was created by Chapter 737 of the Acts of 1968. It took effect on January 1, 1969." This is interesting, Massachusetts required a carry license by 1906. Before NJ did. "1906 - The license was apparently created by Chapter 172 of the Acts of 1906." New Jersey did not require licensing until 1924 http://lawlibrary.rutgers.edu/cgi-bin/diglib.cgi?collect=njleg&file=148&page=0305&zoom=90 Chapter 137 Laws of 1924 Page 305 – 308 >Concealed carry permit now needed. Establishes Record of Sale, Registry, signature of buyer and seller, duplicate needs to be delivered to chief of police, penalties include a high misdemeanor, 24 hour waiting period, no sales after 3 pm, presidents of banks and trust associations, loan institutions, can make application for (up to) 20 permits for the employees,agents, messengers and clerks. Does not apply to State Police or any motor vehicle inspector…Approved March 11 1924 Firearm ID Cards Initially Massachusetts was more anti-gun before New Jersey when it came to requiring a license in order to carry (1906 vs 1924). But it wasn't until 1966 that a FID card was required in NJ, Massachusetts followed suit in 1969. Today the Massachusetts LTC (license to carry) is available, except a few claimed that is difficult to obtain in and around Boston. Illinois' FOID is required to possess Firearms and ammo. Massachusetts FID does too but they offer a 'grace period' of 60 days for new residents. http://www.sec.state.ma.us/cis/ciswel/weltomas.htm "New residents have 60 days to obtain proper licenses. Non-residents may obtain temporary licenses to carry through the Firearms Record Bureau in order to possess and transport firearms through the Commonwealth. All non-residents must comply with all Massachusetts laws regarding transportation and storage while in the Commonwealth." Interestingly Massachusetts requires a FID to use pepper spray. But ironically a FID is not required for a BB gun there. http://www.mass.gov/eopss/firearms-reg-and-laws/frb/frequently-asked-questions.html There are actually two types of FID's in Massachusetts. http://www.sec.state.ma.us/cis/ciswel/weltomas.htm "Local police departments have the authority to issue gun permits. Such permits include licenses to carry (L.T.C.) and firearm identification cards (F.I.D.). There are two types of licenses to carry. A Class A license to carry allows an individual to purchase, possess and carry large-capacity handguns, rifles, shotguns and feeding devices. It is the only permit that authorizes a holder to carry a concealed and loaded firearm. A Class B license to carry permits a holder to purchase, possess, and carry non-large capacity handguns and large-capacity rifles and shotguns." " You may carry in Massachusetts--but This will surprise some, but a if you have a carry permit from another state. You may carry in Massachusetts for hunting if you have a hunting license or competition/exhibition. http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/massachusetts.aspx "A non-resident United States citizen with a license to carry a handgun issued by any state may carry a handgun in Massachusetts for the purpose of taking part in a competition or exhibition of an organized group of firearms collectors, or for hunting provided he has a valid hunting license issued by Massachusetts or the state of his destination." But even then there is an exception "If he or she has a license or permit to possess any firearm in his or her home state, if its licensing requirements are as stringent as those of Massachusetts, as indicated by a published list of such states promulgated by the colonel of state police.The colonel of state police may issue a temporary license to carry a handgun to a non-resident, alien, or resident who does not live within the jurisdiction of a local licensing authority. A temporary license must clearly indicate whether it is a class A or B license. The fee for a temporary license is $100. Temporary licenses are good for one year, and renewable at the discretion of the colonel of state police. Unlike regular class A and B licenses, temporary licenses may not be used to purchase firearms." Handgun Purchase According to this, you need a LTC to purchase a handgun and a state form called the "F-10" has to be filled out along with the 4473. I believe the F-10 is the so called registry form. http://www.goal.org/handgunsales.html I didn't see anywhere about a permit to purchase requirement except for the LTC (License To Carry). So it would seem that Massachusetts is better than NJ in that regard. That Damned Handgun Roster Ah but Mass has a handgun roster law to deal with, much like California does and that could mean that handguns that legal in New Jersey are not available in Massachusetts. http://www.mass.gov/eopss/firearms-reg-and-laws/frb/approved-rosters/ In some ways it is worse in Massachusetts with the handgun roster, but better in that a LTC (License To Carry) seems to be available. FID is required for pepper spray, but not for a BB gun. Almost Banned Handguns in 1976 One more thing, this may come as a surprise to many ....But Massachusetts almost banned handguns in 1976. This is a important but good read in the overall history of gun control. http://www.nrapublications.org/index.php/12374/against-all-odds/ "It was proposed that authorities confiscate all handguns in the state, including BB guns. Gun owners would have six months to surrender their firearms, after which they would face a mandatory year in prison for owning a handgun. The confiscation law seemed poised to pass. The most liberal state in the nation, Massachusetts—along with the District of Columbia—was the only place that had given its electoral votes to Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern in 1972. (McGovern had run on a platform calling for a national ban on all handguns considered “unsuitable for sporting purposes.”) Most of the Massachusetts media strongly supported a handgun ban. The Boston Globe, whose reach extends throughout the relatively small state, vehemently opposed handgun ownership. So did the television stations in Boston." Machine Gun in Massachusetts? http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/51693-How-do-one-get-a-Machine-Gun-license-in-mass "If you have a C&R, you're a shoe-in, assuming your CLEO will issue MG licenses. If you don't have a C&R, you need to convince your CLEO that you fall into the definition of a bona fide collector, as laid out in the regulations." It has been a interesting learning experience in compiling this.

Time frame? Stuck in the early 1980's when "Hand Gun Control" , "Million Commie Mommies", and other anti-gun organizations were in existence and very few states had CCW. A time when towns like Morton Grove in Illinois banned handguns. That is where New Jersey is.....stuck in a time warp.

We just got our tax bill

Sounds like Samco needs to change their 1968 calender...... The 1968 Gun Control Act required a Federal Firearms License 01 to sell ammo, and ammo could only be bought from dealers in person. The law was thrown out under FOPA 86 as being ineffective and no crimes were said to have been solved with the ammo law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act... Long and detailed read here..... http://www.constitution.org/2ll/2ndschol/46hard.pdf

Gas $3.39 a gallon here (it was between $3.55 to $3.85 for months on end). Most shocking price is $3.99 for 4 sticks of butter. Ground Beef at Kroger $5.00 a pound Ground Beef at Meijer $3.90 a pound (on sale).

Why not start a "Top 10" New Jersey Boycott List? Make it a separate website and link it here and on other pro-gun sites. Think of it as a NJ hall of shame. keep it at a Top 10 list in order to focus on the list. If the list gets too big then people's attentions wane. It could change week by week or whenever something occurs that demands it's listing in the Top 10. What could be on the list? Media Politicians Laws

How about "NJ and You..Purrrrrfect Together"....Oh wait that's been done How about this for the state motto ? "Do you have a permit for that?"

Even here in Kentucky we aren't "immune" ...we had politicians calling for the following.... Three Day Waiting Period Require background checks for private firearms sales (Background investigation and a fee (gun tax) for the private transfer of firearms between family and friends.) Licensing of persons to possess firearms and assault weapons The registration of firearms and assault weapons In addition to licensing and registration, the bill would allow local governments and Kentucky State Police to regulate firearms. (Legal in one county and illegal in the next county) Register with the state police lawfully possessed handguns and certain semi-automatic rifles The logging of firearms and ammunition sales Register any magazine that holds more than seven rounds.

Who would have thought ten years ago that Colorado would have sweeping anti-gun laws passed and signed into law. Well it happened. Washington State has one of the oldest shall issue concealed carry laws on the books (1961) could also be next with the I-594 initiative. Texas is becoming a blue state http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/21/Blue-State-Blues-Fleeing-Democrats-Will-Turn-Texas-Blue "Much of the discussion about how Democrats are going to "turn Texas blue" revolves around demographic changes, especially immigration reform. Allowing millions of illegal aliens to find a pathway to citizenship will create millions of new Democratic voters. In the meantime, Republican opposition to that plan is said to be pushing Latino voters away. All Democrats need to do is boost their turnout, and the GOP's Alamo will fall. Yet there is another demographic change that is bound to have an effect on Texas: the rapid influx of refugees from blue states. The Manhattan Institute notes that Texas is the number-one destination for California's émigré population, for example. It is popular among migrants from other blue states as well, owing to its warm climate, job opportunities, and lack of a state income tax. Over time, that is changing Texas's political culture."

And Personal protection is no reason to own a gun in Australia. I guess the Star Ledger got their inspiration from the notice from New South Wales Police Government (below) after Australia passed their draconian gun laws.

Next it will be DNA samples in order to own a firearm, after that? A Microchip in the hand.

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