High Exposure

What's your street cred now?

You do understand that recoil is impossible to eliminate. It is also controllable by technique regardless if your size. You are way overthinking this whole thing brother....

Watching the Western Conference Finals now. All I can say is WOW! What a difference in play. Both teams are way more aggressive and more heads up. Faster and more physical play, cleaner passes, working harder to make opportunities.... Outstanding Hockey! Watching this the game makes yesterday's game look like a drop hockey game. Whoever wins the Easters series is gonna get crushed in the finals. Anyway... Go Habs!!!!

Well played I know a few female shooters. They are dedicated to the cause, CCW wherever they can, train harder than me, are excellent shooters, are outstanding students, have no ego, always have their thinking caps on, and are generally my favorite folks to shoot with. Unlike most men, who generally drop 50 IQ points when you put a gun in their hands, women don't change when armed. They keep the same levelheaded and alert frame of mind they always have. No unnecessary silliness, no macho bullshit. They are brutally honest with themselves and take criticism well, but aren't afraid to tell you to frak off if they think you are BSing them. I think we do women shooters a disservice by have "women only" classes, but I see the need - a perfect example of which is this very thread. It makes me sad.... Women are perfectly capable of shooting in any class or comp I have ever been to from basic to advanced. I know a few women I would rather go to war with than most of the men I know. It's the men that seem to have issues with the concept, again, much like this very thread. They get hit on, dismissed as less capable, then the men start showing off or even worse - try to coach the "poor inexperienced little girl" instead of a fellow shooter. When the unasked for offer for help gets turned down then the fashion/cooking/sewing/whatever other mysoginistic crap comments come out and that's it. It's total bullshit and we are all worse off for it. I wish more women would post here, but I understand completely why they don't.

Hammer Pair

Why is it going to go South? I am more concerned that there was an ND behind the firing line that wasn't addressed by anyone and they were allowed to stay in class. There would have most definitely been a "counseling session" if I was there whether I was the instructor or not. I heard the "lanes" at the end were a little "spicy" too. I also heard that someone cut their hand pretty badly with a ricochet and that a couple of ER nurses in class had to handle a few bleeding students.

So.... Who had the ND?

Check KKM Precision: http://www.kkmprecision.com/shopping-cart/?func=order&frompage=cat&cat=G I prefer their barrels to the Lone Wolf offerings.

My PM9 feeds Federal HST with no issues.

First, take stopping power out of your vocabulary. There is no such thing. Read this: http://m.policemag.com/article/2426/stopping-power-myths-legends-and-realities Second, with modern ammunition, especially modern hollow point ammo, there is very little difference in terminal ballistics when comparing the major "duty" calibers - .38spl, .357mag, 9mm, .40S&W, .357sig, 10mm, .45ACP The .40S&W is a good round. I carry it every day and feel comfortable with it. The caveat is that I have realistic expectations of what the round is capable of, recognizing the fact that it is a pistol caliber and knowing that all pistol caliber rounds are poor fight stoppers. That said, if I had a choice, I would carry 9mm for more mundane reasons such as price and availability.

Blinding? Really? I have had plenty of bright flashlights pointed in my eyes and I don't need a cane or a dog.... I have also pointed bright flashlights into plenty of other peoples eyes, they also didn't need a cane or a dog... 200 Lumens is my bare minimum on a social gun. I use an X300U (500L) on my social pistols and a P3X Fury (1000L) on my work rifle with no issues with bounce back or reflection issues while FISHing on quite a few houses. You are right though, lumens are only part of the equation: beam shape, throw, spill, switchology, runtime, are also all considered heavily when choosing a light. I like the X300U for pistols, but on a rifle, not so much. I would prefer a P2X Fury, even though the lumen rating is the same at 500. Multifunction lights have no place on a gun. If you need a dimmer light, use your admin light - you don't want to be fiddlefucking with your switch at the wrong moment. ETA: In my opinion strobes should also be a no-go on a social gun. Not only is it disorienting to you as well as the target, but the strobe can make it very difficult to see movement, especially slow deliberate movement of the hands. I also wouldn't want to in the witness stand testifying to how I was able to visually identify a threat while using a device designed to disturb the vision of those around it.

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I carry some flavor of .40 S&W Glock off duty always. I also have a PM9 (9mm) and a LCP (.380) that get carried as BUGs occasionally. Federal HST (switched from Gold Dots last year) in all of my guns except the .380, that has ball ammo.

Geek, understood. But the difference between the large frame (.45/10mm) Glocks and small frame (9/.40/.357) Glocks is of significant importance to a new shooter looking at a .45ACP Glock. Why do you agree with them 100%? I don't own a single .45ACP pistol and I have no regrets. I shoot .40S&W and 9mm much better than any .45ACP pistol. I would rather be able to place 5 rounds of .40 in a 4" circle at 10 yards in ~2 seconds from a holster than 3 rounds of .45 in a 6" circle with all else being equal all day long. Also, remember, if you buy a .45 you have to by .45 ammo at .45 prices with .45 availability.... I am not saying don't get a .45 if that's what you want. It is an excellent round that is supported by many excellent models of pistols. Just examine all your choices logically before you decide.

Shane beat me to it. On the basis of what facts did you form that opinion?

Geek, Keep in mind that in addition to the standard "sizes": Sub-compact - G26/27 Compact - G19/23 Full size - G17/22 Practical/tactical - G34/25 and now 41 Long slide - G17L/24 That the .45ACP and 10mm guns are also built on a wider frame and are referred to as "Large Frame Glocks" vs the 9mm/.40S&W/.357sig "small frame" guns. You also have "S" series guns as well as single stack models of the "Large Frame" guns. 34/35 are the Practical/Tactical models made for comp and "social" work. I carry a G35 on a SWAT team and shoot another one in steel comps. The 17L and 24 are the long slides. None of them require hotter than standard ammo. I am unsure of the 41's ammo requirements since it is a new model. That's why I said to wait a while before buying one.

Good looking out Vlad!

See my post above about the Skimmer Trigger.

Sights are subjective choices- that said I do not like Big Dot sights. They sacrifice too much accuracy for a small amount of speed. What is Starbust stripping? Slimmer trigger? If you mean "skimmer trigger" as in Travis Haley's trigger kit - avoid putting it in a carry gun. It can deactivate some of the internal safeties in some guns.

What makes it a "competition gun"? If it needs a hotter load to function doesn't that make it the antithesis of a competition gun? If you are referring to its size, I regularly carry a G35 with no issues. If CCWing, the length of the slide isn't an issue, it's the size of the grip that causes a gun to print. The G35/34 has the same frame as the G17/22. The G41 is roughly the same - it uses a standard G21 frame making it a "large frame" Glock, and therefore slightly bigger than a G34/35/17/22 size frame - but not so big as to make a difference as far as CCW.

Agreed, ogfarmer is spot on. Also, it never pays to be one of the first people to get a new model gun. I am also intrigued by the G41, but I won't seriously think about getting one for at least a year or two. Let others figure out what's wrong and give the platform time to evolve and fix any issues.

Yo Joe!

Jerry M ain't running armor.

I will disagree about the 15/30 mags. The extra length makes all manipulations with magazines easier. They increase stability in a few different shooting positions. They also fit better in most pouches and make retrieving them much easier. I also don't see see pinned telescoping stocks as being a bad thing either. A quality stock on a quality mil-spec receiver extension should be good to go as long as your technique is good when mortaring. I think a SOPMOD or VLTOR type stock with a sloping cheek weld is superior to a standard A1 or A2. And since I plan on shooting a whole lot more than mortaring I think it is a valid trade-off. And as for the muzzle device, I don't care what they look like as long as they work for their stated purpose. I understand that they aren't necessary on a 5.56 rifle, but I can tell when I am shooting a rifle without one.

? The original was designed by JMB for Colt. Browning Firearms (now owned by FN) wasn't created until 1927, 16 years after the adoption of the 1911.