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RBT, You may have no interest in conveying a message to the antis, but you didn't make this video. So then what was the purpose of his "message"? Was he just preaching to the choir? If he was just blowing off steam then why post it publicly online? Was he just showing off/posturing/grandstanding? A temper tantrum by a Chief of Police? Would you make a video like that?

Oh really? Did you not post the following statement (post #108) in this thread? Note the highlighted portion. Is that not you bringing you into this discussion on this site? Or is NJGF Facebook now. What the hell does your well publicized fiasco have to do with this other than adding your personal drama into a discussion that has nothing at all to do with you or your family?

That girl can ride. That was very cool, thanks for posting, Don't understand the socialized medicine part though....

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No, I did. Actually everyone on this site did because you made sure to tell us - repeatedly - But, this thread is not about you.

Agreed, the other guy has some valid points and is offering some good advice. If Yeager was teaching how to hide in a ditch while your co-workers were getting shot up or how to stop in the middle of an ambush and stay put - then I would listen to him. Otherwise Yeager = imbecile

Yeager is a raging asshole. The other guy is making some good points, but Yeager's ego won't let him keep his goddamn mouth shut. You can see his frustration with Yeager on his face and in his body language.

This is what I was talking about. This is my shocked face - He wasn't just "holding a gun" Shawn. If he was just holding it, having a rational conversation, maybe shooting a bit, even on FA, this would be a non-event. It still would have carried his message to everyone he intended it to, and those with differing viewpoints wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on. Now they have a new boogeyman to show the world. He played right into their hands with his childish outburst. And all for what? What was his goal with this video? What was he trying to accomplish? Yes, it is hypocritical. Yes it is rediculous. Yes it is uncalled for. However, It is also predictable, expected, and 100% in line with their tactics. Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming. And, once again..... It's all about you

Hopefully some of Surgeon's QC/QA, attention to detail, and overall higher quality product will rub off on Armalite and produce high quality, reliable, ARs instead of what Armalite was producing. My fear however, is that Armalite will turn into another BRO. We will see... Paul, Surgeon (http://www.surgeonrifles.com/) makes specialized precision rifles. They are very well known and sought after rifles in "working" precision rifle circles.

Agreed! Neither would I. Come to think of it, I would prefer not to be shot with a BB gun, or a .22, or a .25, or a .32, etc... either. That doesn't mean I'm going to carry one protect to myself or loved ones. And yes, a lot of people (13) died at Fort Hood on November 9, 2009 in that cowardly attack by that scumbag terrorist. But a lot more people (32) who were shot with that 5.7 round lived as well, Including one of the Cops that was able to continue the fight and return fire after being shot twice (I think in the ankle and femur). ETA: Correction: Officer Munley, the female responding Officer that was shot did not return fire after being hit. She suffered frag to her hand, as well as a shot to the ankle and femur. Her partner, Sgt. Todd finished the fight and was not wounded.

That TAB RAS is a clone of the Viking VTAC sling with the addition of an arm cuff - The arm cuff being useful for high-power and national match competition but relatively useless on a fighting carbine. Gotcha. Shooting and fighting with a gun are two completely different animals and Marksmanship/shooting is only one component of the fighting process.

I know this doesn't help you with your short barrel but... First a disclaimer - IANAL - the below information is from a discussion with a Lt at the NJSP Ballistics Unit. I have no documentation on this. Also keep on mind, most of the decisions regarding what is "evil" and passes the assault rifle "test" is legal OPINION based on the law as written and not factual definitions. According to the NJSP Ballistics unit, they don't follow the Fed guideline for the definition of a Flash Hider - they do not measure the actual flash suppressing qualities of the device, although they do recommend following the Fed Definitions as a good guideline. The NJSP definition is if the opening in the muzzle device that the bullet exits is the same as the caliber being shot through it (with a few fraction of an inch as appropriate). Basically, if a 5.56/.223 projectile travels through a ~ 5.56.223 opening through a solid disk after leaving the end of the barrel but before leaving the end of the muzzle device you should be good to go. The "pinky test" is a good guideline - If you can reach your pinky (or larger then caliber specific rod) thought the muzzle device and touch the end of the barrel directly = Flash hider. If not = muzzle break/comp. There are exceptions, think vortex style. Flash hider where, you can't reach your pinky all the way down, but the muzzle device is open with prongs going all the way to the barrel in the sides, there is no "disk" with appropriate sized opening. I know, I know, as with most things in this state, clear as Mud. Anyway... Two that I know are good (they are legal, because I asked specifically about these two, and work great) - the PWS FSC556 and the Battle Comp. I am still wondering about the NJ Legality of the BCM comps.

Caspian makes a very nice one: http://www.caspianarms.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CAL&Category_Code=AA01 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/471546/caspian-accessory-rail-picatinny-style-1911-government-steel-blue Also check out Dawson Precision: http://www.dawsonprecision.com/CategoryProductList.jsp?cat=+DAWSON+PRECISION+PRODUCTS:DP+Light+Rails and Novak: http://www.novaksights.com/products/lightrails.html for their excellent offerings. Also read this: http://www.10-8performance.com/pages/Light-Rail-1911-Resource.html An excellent run down if offerings and discussipn of the advantages and disadvatages of add on light rails.

Q-tips and toothbrush With the slip cleaner for the chamber. I swap out the gas tube every 5000-7000 rounds as preventative maintenance. No need to clean it.

Gotcha. Who makes the barrel, what are the specs?

Did you buy it used or new? Taking the std mount (not QD) TD VFG on and off can open up the rail slot a little and shave the locking blocks down a bit. Also, if the pic slots are tight, the locking blocks may not seat all the way in, giving the VFG some play. That looseness really isn't a big deal in the great scheme of things. If you think something is wrong, contact TD CS. They are outstanding and will make it right. Jeff Cahill is a classy guy and he runs a top-notch company. Oh, and Rutgers95 is right, go with the stubbies. I have a box full of std length VFG in the closet. They were all replaced with stubbies.

Can I ask why you are using a 10.5" barrel? The real advantage of an SBR (I am issued 2 of them) is the short barrel. Ballistics, velocity, and range are all degraded when compared to a 14.5" or 16" barreled AR. You are really limiting yourself. You have to have total barrel length of over 16", so why not make the mandatory barrel length work to your advantage for the whole 14."-16" instead of having 10.5" of usable barrel and the rest just taking up space? You are also limiting your break/comp options. There are not a whole lot o 5.5" muzzle devices, and your ability to choose one that works the "best" will be even slimmer since you have such a small stable to choose from.

Slip 725 Cleaner Slip 2000 EWL .223 Bore-snake Q-tips Old teeth-brush Old Hand Towel Old Wash cloth Old T-shirt

Reminds me of this (watch 0:40-0:52): Chest rigs are great for the bump in the night stuff. They are just as fast to don as a bandoleer and are much more versatile. Hell, I keep a PC next to the bed with 3 rifle mags and a pistol mag. Goes on in about 2 seconds. I also have a set of armor for the wife and the kid in the bedroom.

I only have a second Right now, but I want to address this: I'd like to think I'm pretty open to discussion on all topics. I attempt to be fairly transparent in what I write, And make every effort to try to communicate with everyone on this board as clearly as possible. I will discuss and debate with anyone about anything if it is something I feel strongly about, and have a frame of reference with which to discuss intelligently. However, a man has to know his limitations. Getting into a debate about the militarization of police with someone that believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and the Boston Marathon bombings were a test run for martial law is futile and a waste of time. That doesn't mean I am shut off from discourse or that I am a representative of an oppressive government. That just means that I am too smart to get into an argument where I will get dragged down to their level and beaten by their experience.

I see a lot wrong with this Country. Lying politicians, f'ed up immigration, rampant welfare, hints of socialism (obamacare).... What I don't see is us headed towards re-education camps, martial law, and the suspension of the Constitution. I also don't see what happened in MA as Cops invading homes during the search for a terrorist scumbag that was on the loose. You really think the Cops invaded to search people's homes for Illegal contraband or seditious material. Well then, why weren't there mass arrests? Why did the Cops leave after verifying that the terrorist scumbag wasn't there? Hell, most people let the Cops in. How should it have been handled then? You know what, nevermind... you believe what you believe, and I know I will never change your mind, so let's just agree to disagree.

Wow. OK then... Well, when it happens, look me up. Since you are a Devil's fan and I am a Devil's fan, just give me the "Hi" sign and I will get you extra rations while you are in the re-education camp. Oh, and since now that I know you are on to us, you know I have to report this to my overlords right? Sorry bro, just doing my job... [/sarcasm]

I think so. There is a hard drive with 8 hours of storage capacity of video at standard definition. As long as the camera is on it records constantly to the drive overwriting the older recordings. I can go back and pull data off the drive and burn it to a DVD by setting my own time parameters in the system. When the light goes on, it automatically backs the video up 2 minutes and starts burning this to the DVD. The DVDs are removed and stored when they are full. They are kept as evidence for a certain time (I forget how long) in the event a Lawyer or resident requests discovery for their court case. After the time limit is reached, the DVDs are then placed back in rotation. If there is an arrest and there is any evidentiary value to the disk (for example a DWI, or an assault that the camera captures, the disk is pulled and entered into evidence permanently.

I don't believe that everyone should do what I want, I believe everyone should do what is right. Right as to the cultural and societal norms, right as to being courteous and considerate of their community. I believe everyone has a right to live their private lives as they see fit within the bounds of civilization, community, and culture. I believe that just because you can, doesn't always mean you should. That goes for the Police as well as the residents. There is a time and place for requests, and a time and place to be firm. I also know that while I want everyone to do what is right, that that is a fantasy that will never happen. Some people will never admit when they are wrong, and some are so self centered that they think the laws should not apply if it keeps them from getting what they want, and some people are just plain bad guys. Some people will think they know better and do the wrong thing with every honorable intent and belief that they are doing the right thing, and some will make things hard simply because "it's their right" to make it hard. I get all of that too. I also know that I have a job to do. A responsibility to the residents of my town, to the constitution of the US and the State of NJ, and to myself to do the "right" thing. I will not shirk that responsibility, I will not shrink away from those obligations. The job will get done. I take great care in respecting others as I do my job. I respect their homes, ther rights, their beliefs, and opinions. I enjoy being a part of the community I work in. I am well respected by the citizens in my jurisdiction, although not everyone may like me. And I get that too. My job sometimes is to tell people that they did something wrong, some people don't like hearing that and have award time accepting that they messed up and now have to face the consequences. Strangely enough the real criminals are typically the easiest to deal with in this regard, they know they did wrong and are OK with it. You misinterpreted my statement regarding the courts. I was not referring to your statements about the men and women that have died for this country, I want no part of that line of reasoning, I was referring to the ultimate decision after the fact of whether the Police action was correct or the "I know my rights" individual was in the right.

The article that started this thread was anti-SWAT, specifically but was taking oranges and calling them apples. As far as general police having "military type gear", or what I refer to as the right gear to do the job, all started, or became nocticeable, after Columbine and the development of the rapid response to active shooter initiative. The realization that Cops could no longer set a perimeter and wait for SWAT was a slap in the face for Law Enforcement everywhere. A mad dash to procure equipment and training was started and there was lots of free equipment to be had in the US Govt DRMO program, where old military gear is leant out to Police Departments for free. SWAT teams are specialized units with specific tasks, and are generally pretty good at what they do. The problem is they may take some time to assemble and arrive at a crisis location. Sometimes that time lag between call out and response is unacceptable and the guys already on scene (patrol, traffic, detective, SRO, etc...) have to go and do it, or set a perimeter, or shoot it out. I have been in schools in my county with 210 yard hallways (verified by laser range finder), in department stores, big box stores, shopping malls, and hospitals with 180 yard hallways and longer sight lines. The guys on the road need the right tools to accomplish this job. This means rifles. Should the road guys carry Mini-14s to be different, the SRO can carry a Remmy 7615 pump rifles, and traffic guys get shotguns (Oh wait, the military uses shotguns too... Scratch that) so as not to look to "militaristic"? Should they be required to hunt down or shoot it out with a rifle equipped bad guy with only their pistols? (No, wait, better make it revolvers since the military uses semi-auto pistols). We should only send the women cops to handle the aggressive stuff, since, until recently, the military uses the men. Where is the line drawn? Looking like a warrior, "dressing for war" does not a warrior make. For example, an external bullet resistant vest is just plain more comfortable. It is cooler (temperature wise, not CDI-wise) and decreases the risk of back injury. But I shouldn't wear one, I should overheat and hurt my back, because it looks scary? It doesn't give me a 1000 yard stare, more "death power", or the overwhelming urge to trample your Constitutional rights. That is just silly. Looking like a CAG or ST6 guy doesn't make you a "Cool guy". A thigh rig and a slung rifle doesn't make you an 11b or 0311. Wearing a BDU type uniform doesnt make you a member of an invading army. It gives you a unifrom that can handle the rigors of a daily work schedule. It is just like owning what looks like a machine gun (M16) doesn't make it a machine gun (AR15). "Militarization" is a a paradigm shift, a doctrine shift, where direct action missions takes over for an arrest warrant. Where the Geneva and Hague conventions along with ROE replace Constitutional Use of Force Guidlines. When Miranda doesn't apply, when the 5th amendment is removed from the equation. It has nothing to do with equipment or appearance and everything to do with doctrine and policy. You say this as of people are being gunned down on the streets of Gloucester County like it is Fallijah. You say it like like Cops are using lethal force every 15 minutes. Yes, they have the authority to use deadly force to protect their own life or the lives of other people. That has always been the case. Should this change? Do you believe that Police should be stripped of the ability to use DPF to protect? And while it may not be lethal force per sey, do Doctors and Firemen not exert some control over life and death of those under their care? Do they not use the tools, techinques, and technology derived from warfighting to protect, to save, to rescue? Do Cops not use these "militarized" weapons to protect others even while they are using lethal force on an aggressor? Isn't that the standard of whether or not DPF is a justified and appropriate response - "in protection of themselves and others"? Police are not just randomly shooting folks in their homes or in the streets. If DPF is used on someone, it is in the interest of protecting others. It is intersting that you seem to keep pointing to the presence of weapons as the case for being too militaristic? What if I told you that more civilians own more military type firearms than all the Police Departments in the country combined (Look at the N. Hollywood shootout, LAPD had to go to a civilian gun store to obtain tools to stop the fight while waiting for SWAT) Does that mean that the residents of this nation are too militarized? (**** I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS **** just playing a little Devil's Advocate) This is not the world of 20 years ago. Hell it is not even the world of 5 years ago. Like it or not, unfortunately the "warrior Cop" has a place in our society just as the DARE officer, the SRO, or the Traffic Enforcement division. You need guys to who will run TO the sound of gunfire instead of away. Everyone bellyaches and moans that "The Police have no obligation to help anyone". That is correct, but we do anyway because we want to, bevause we are responsible, bevause if we dont, who will (and unfortunately in this state, who can)?Which Cop do you think is going to come running towards you when you are in danger when everyone else is running away? The guy with the training the equipment, and the mindset, that's who. As far as educating the public, we can only do what we can do. Some people out there still think the world is flat, think Obama pays the welfare checks out of his own pocket, and think GZ got away with murder. I can't make people realize the distinction between soldiers kicking in a door in Afghanistan, in a foreign country with no Constitution, and Police Officers making an arrest down the block. My hope is that fellow "gun" people, others that have the same "mindset", get it and help pass it along instead of promulgating this "militarized" BS. What does "act Military" mean? Most Cops do not see the residents in their town or the population in general as "enemy combatants"? A healthy respect for the violence that some people are capable of is not the same as viewing every citizen we come into contact with as an "enemy combatant". But, believe it or not, some people actually want to kill us - for the Job we do, for the Uniform on our back, the Badge on our chest and the ideals we represent. Do you know the biggest problem with Cops? They are selected from the human race with the same foibles, weaknesses, and bad characteristics as anyone else. You may have a few rotten apples in the bunch, just like some Priests are pedophiles, some Dr are rapists, and some maintenance men are thieves, some lawyers are scumbags, and some mailmen are burglars, but you shouldn't judge them all by the actions of the few.