High Exposure

No worries brother. I just wanted to make sure that we were on the same page. And for the record, I think this is a great discussion. I am responsible to train 25 municipal Police officers, and 30 Officers assigned to a County SWAT shooters. Everything that I teach has a real-world component and is grounded in reality to the best of my abilities considering real world training restrictions. While the Square Range leaves a lot to be desired and in no way shape or form simulates real-world deadly forcing encounters, it is, unfortunately, the only metric we have to be able to measure our students abilities and proficiency. The best way to take full advantage of the limited training opportunities afforded by the square range is to base our training curriculum on the findings of after action reports, real-world shootings, our limited first hand experiences, the knowledge of other reputable trainers with real world experience, and any info we can beg borrow or steal regarding other deadly forcing encounters. Then if we can get our shooters to the unconscious-competence level in the areas of gunfighting that we deem most relevant to winning (note: not just surviving) a deadly force encounter we are ahead of the curve and can sleep soundly knowing we did all we could to prepare our people for the worst day of their lives.

? I am confused... Did you not read my posts? I am in no way shape or form talking about training forums or videos.

So the bolt goes home all the way, but on an empty chamber, and this only happens when charging the first round using the CH but not from a locked bolt. I would have to see it, but it sounds like you are just not pulling the charging handle back far enough so the bottom lugs on the bolt can get behind a round in the mag, or the mag was not seated fully/correctly. Have you tried with dummy rounds/snap caps?

This. If you are only putting a light and maybe a VFG/AFG the MOE will get it done just fine. I have a FF rail on one work gun because I have need of an IR laser. The rest of my social rifles have MOE Handguards. If you just want it because you want it, that's cool - get it. But don't think you need it.

So did I. In combat, under stress, in the "heat of battle" you will not rise to the occasion and be a hero. You will default to your level of training and perform those actions. I have seen security camera videos of martial arts guys give weapons back to bad guys after taking it from them - because that is how they conduct their repetitive training drills. I have read AARs of guys trying repeatedly to tap rack assess an empty gun and not go to a reload because they trained to clear malfunction with every click. My personal goal is to be a better shooter today than I was yesterday. My job is to make sure than no man's ghost says that my training failed him. I see plenty of 75% to even 100% hits on target during deadly force encounters. It is possible and a realistic goal, but planning for an average of 50% reduction in accuracy is prudent. Train harder now so the 50% is still acceptable.

What do you mean "not loading"? Does the bolt strip a round out if the mag or just stop dead when the BCG hits the edge of the mag/rim of the cartridge? Is the round stripped but not chambered? Are you "riding" the charging handle? Does it function correctly when firing?

No, that is not taught. Back then, they simply didn't know what they didn't know. The current NJ Shotgun (00B) qual course mandated by the DCJ/AG/PTC consists of 5 rounds from the 20 yard line and 5 rounds from the 10 yard line and involves combat and magazine reloads. All shots are aimed and every pellet is counted for score. Training is at the discretion of the agency. I teach only sighted fire techniques on all firearms except for specific weapon retention techniques.

I believe the phrase you are looking for is: It is all about the 4 levels of achievement and at what level you are at with each facet of your gun handling. If you train to skin a BUG, that's what you will do when pressed under stress. If you train to reload or clear a malfunction that's what you will do. For example, if you are at the unconcious competence level on your reloads, you will have very little, if any, degradation in that skill under stress and that is what you will do, without thinking, when necessary. The ability to complete certain administrative tasks while under stress and without devoting any conscious thought to them allows you to concentrate on the new and unique problems you are facing right now and complete the "routine" tasks on a kind of autopilot setting you up for success. The "You can expect a 50% degradation in skills" comment that is often bandied about deals with accuracy and is what The LAV uses as his standard for accuracy under fire. That is why he has such a high standard for accuracy. By studying AARs of shootings he is probably being a little generous. You misinterpreted my statement when you took it out of context. You can not "Train" under realistic conditions because you will not have people shooting at you while you practice. We all conduct most of our training on the square range and we need to figure out what "side" of the BUG discussion we are on, then train for it. You won't find out of you are right until you are tested in the real world. My statement was meant to get at the heart of the concept that while I see a lot of shooters, I can only observe what my shooters will do at the range. Unfortunately I won't be there if they ever get into it for real. My only meter of what works and what does not is how they perform at the range. I can tell you on the range that this is faster than that, or vice-versa, when the malfunctions are planned and purposefully set up. When reloads are a known quantity based on the drills at hand I can measure times and accuracy, when it is unexpected, unplanned, and for real, I can not, and neither can you.

I have never ever ever seen a broken or weak ejector - This is with dozens of ARs I am responsible for (as an armorer and head firearms instructor) with a heavy firing schedule over the last 10 years or so with tens of thousands of rounds and many shooters. Bolts generally fail, lugs shear off or they crack at the cam pin hole, way before the ejector goes tits-up. This is a gas problem evidenced by the failure to lock back on the last round, the ejector would have nothing to do with that. What make is the rifle/BCG? Can you post pics of the BCG especially the carrier key screws? How many rounds through the gun? Have you done any preventative maintenance since you got the rifle? Any gas leakage/discoloration around the gas block? Any holes in the gas tube? Have you tried a different BCG in the rifle?

Too many variables for either statement to be an absolute. The question is how much time do you have to determine the reason for the stoppage before deciding how to proceed? If you don't know what the problem is with the gun, is it more prudent to get a gun that you know works in your hand RIGHT NOW, or to fiddle-fuck with the gun that went click and try to make it go bang in the middle of a gun fight? If you set up your BUG the right way, it can absolutely be faster then a speed reload (depending on what you are reloading - is it a pistol where you can reload a magazine or a revolver that you are reloading from speed loaders, speed strips, or dump pouch/loose rounds?) or immediate/remedial malfunction clearing. If you have a malfunction that completely downs the gun to the point where you are not clearing the issue short of an armorer, then the BUG is faster no matter how you carry it. This also depends on your physical condition. If you are hurt and are down to one hand, the BUG option may be faster regardless of the reason for the stoppage or what kind of handgun you are carrying. Also keep in mind that the "NY Reload" became popular (I know the practice has been around a lot longer than the NYPD) in a time where Police (and armed citizens) carried revolvers and reloaded from dump pouches. A "fast" reload took several seconds - drawing a second gun from and AIWB holster for 6 more shots took a second, maybe a second and a half - about the same amount of time as a moderately fast semi-auto reload. Generally, I have found that with a pistol or revolver/speedloader combo, a straight up speed-reload or a malfunction that can be cleared with immediate action (type I or type II) is faster than drawing a BUG - considering you have the use of both hands and the time and wherewithall to realize that you have an empty gun or type I or type II malfunction. Keep in mind that this generalization has been made by watching/timing shooters on the square range where cotton all clouds float across an impossibly blue sky, over rivers of chocolate running past trees that give beer and NOT in the middle of a fur-ball fight for their life so... None of this may be true.

Cool FBI training video from back in the day:

With the right belt and holster combo it should zero problem. I have 2 buddies that carry K Frames off-duty all year long. They have no problem concealing them.

The light has nothing to do with navigating your home. The advantage is being able to acquire and ID a threat so you can process it faster. Is that a knife, a badge, a cellphone or a gun in the unknowns hand? Is it a stranger or your neighbors kids, or a family member up for a late night snack? If, after IDing your unknown a "Shoot" solution happens to be the correct answer, then the light on your gun is a force multiplier - it allows you to keep both hands on the gun while you aim and fire (I do t know a out you, but I am much faster and more accurate with two hands on the gun), keeps the light oriented with the sights, and lets you use your support hand for other tasks if necessary - open a door, use a phone, carry a child. The light allows you to know if your "intervention" worked. Without being able to see, how do you know if you hit? Considering that most people that are shot with a handgun die of old age, if you did hit, how do you know if it worked? Are they down? Are they staying down? If you cant see how do you know? As far as being a "beacon" would you do you do during daylight encounters to avoid drawing fire? What cloak of invisibility protects you from being seen or engaged by a threat during the daytime or in well lit areas? The answer is that there isn't. YOU are the beacon, not the light - otherwise good guys would only get shot during the day. Bottom Line: You need to see in order to win a gunfight. You need light to see. You need enough light to see well enough to quickly ID and process a threat or unknown. That light may have some disadvantages if not used correctly - but, like everything else in life, there is no free lunch. If you don’t want to get shot, don’t go looking for a gunfight.

Sure. It isn't extra gunpowder and the buffer material is just in there to keep the shot from deforming against other shot in the shell.

You could be hearing/seeing some buffer material rattling around in their.

I have a dedicated white light on every gun I own that is designated to be used for "social" purposes and has the ability to mount a WML. The brighter the better - I have 300Us on all of my pistols and Furies on my long guns. I am eagerly waiting for Surefire to release an Ultra head for the M600C to upgrade the 2 I have. I do not like lasers on any gun unless I am using NODs.

The G18 is fun the first couple of times you shot one on FA. Then, meh..... A LOT of ammo way to quickly and very hard to hit what you are aiming at after the first shot. All in all, I would rather have a 17/35/17L then carry an 18. Standard 17 round mags are all but useless in the 18 on FA and carrying the 33 round mags in the gun makes it a wee bit hard to holster. Plus the 33 rounders are a bitch to carry as spares/reloads, especially concealed.

Nice. I want a G24.... I have 2 G35s, a G22, a G23, and a G27.

My S&W Model 15-3: It doesn't get shot much, but it is fun to take out every now and then.

The original Glock - the G17 - was named after it's Patent Number. The G17 was Gaston Glock's 17th patent. The rest are named in order they were released. There are some models not released in the US hence some jumping of the model numbers (like the G25 and the G28 chambered in .380 ACP - not enough "points" to import into the US).

Rule 1 bro. You did right in my opinion, I would have done the same.

It may very well may not be a FARA but this: doesn't matter. There are plenty of countries currently using weapons older than that. Plus, with the blue uniforms, I am guessing Police not Military, which would make sense to have the older rifles, they probably get the hand-me-downs. The only reason I don't think it is a Galil is I can't see the 90degree charging handle, the receiver seems to have a rail, and the front sight/gas block looks wrong. I also saw more pics of the FARA and some had the same stock. Looking at it a little bit more, I actually think it is an FN FNC, not a FARA or Galil.

If we have Sci-Fi monsters, I want a Sci-Fi gun: ZF-1 If I am restricted to conventional firearms, I will take a GAU-8

What paper was this in? Where is this photo from? Is this in Argentina? It looks like a Fara 83 to me.

BCM has the upper in stock (minus Handguards, BCG and CH). http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-14-5-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-mid-14.htm