TCinJ

If it's on youtube, it's gotta be true!

Here's a quote from that CBS news story. Methinks the doucherocket that made the video needs to do his homework: " The latest Gallup Poll on guns says that 47 percent of Americans now have guns, more than any time since 1993, and women are buying in increasing numbers. Twenty-three percent of women report that they are gun owners, that is up from 13 percent in 2005." Shrinking minority? LOL

I always take intarweb reviews with a large grain of salt. What I look for is a pattern of bad or good behavior. For example, when deciding whether to buy a Marlin 60 or a Ruger 10/22, I chose the Marlin knowing that their quality is a little spotty but overall it is a great rifle and a lot less money. I had to call Marlin to have them send a replacement front sight because it looked like a gorilla pounded it in with a sledge hammer. This is fine for a mass produced, relatively inexpensive item. If I were buying a custom firearm from a small manufacturer like Ed Brown, I'd like to know that the owner of the company was a nice guy along with knowing it was a quality item. The firearms education weenie isn't the only one reporting that Ed Brown is a bit of a douche. This is a pattern, and even though he makes a great quality product, I would rather buy from someone that has BOTH a reputation for being a nice person AND making a great product. That's just my personal preference. Some people don't shive a git if the owner is a douche, and that's fine too. It isn't worth arguing over. I'm pretty sure that everyone here agrees with each other far more than we disagree with each other on many things. So let's all shake hands and agree to disagree. I hate to see people argue over silly things like this. We need to put our time and energy fighting the anti-gun weenies, not each other!

Maybe people are simply choosing not to report that they have a gun in their home.........

I gave it a "dislike". They are airing this during the super bowl? LOL - nice way to waste money with ads going for 3.5 million for a 30 second spot. "Common sense" gun laws to me are letting law abiding citizens exercise their constitutional right to carry a weapon. People who choose not to carry should feel better knowing that there would be a decent chance of a "good guy" carrying a weapon if they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. When seconds count, call 911 - the average response time is only 7 or so minutes......

Why? I'd rather leave a legacy of being a nice guy that made a great product than an aszhole that made a great product any day.

IMO, regardless whether this "weapons education" guy is a weenie or not, Ed Brown should have sucked it up and did a three minute interview to pimp his products instead of having the guy whine about how rude he is. It should have gone more like this:

Thought it would be fun to get and share some ideas on a classic super bowl snack. My recipe comes from a pizza place that was next door to a business I used to own. It's pretty easy. Just take your wings (fresh or frozen) simmer for 30 minutes in slightly salted water. Let wings cool. The restaurant pre-cooked the wings days in advance and used the water for chicken stock in other dishes. You then dust the wings in corn starch and deep fry them until crispy. Roll around in your favorite sauce (I use Frank's red hot) and serve. The "secret" to the recipe is the parboiling - it gives the wings a chewy kind of beef jerky texture on the outside. (overcooked, actually) The kind of thing you'll recognize but have not been able to duplicate at home. Now you know why - you're essentially eating leftovers. (but if you fry anything it'll taste good!) They also had boneless style "wings". These were chicken breast strips that were simmered for about 10 minutes. Then dusted in corn starch, deep fried and rolled in sauce. The strips would curl after frying. I think they called them "buffalo tails" or something like that. My kids love buffalo tails and sometimes boneless chicken breast is on sale cheaper than wings! (which used to be chicken scraps until they were marketed into snack food!) What's your favorite wing recipe?

The sad truth is that sometimes people that succeed (whether it be business, sports, etc.) are aszholes. It doesn't take away from their accomplishments, but I guess we'd like to think that the people who make the products we love, the TV shows we laugh about, and the professional sports we enjoy are all really nice folks. Take Steve Jobs from Apple. He was a ruthless businessman and marketeer - not a visionary. He wasn't a very nice guy, either. I bet the millions of Apple fanboys don't care. And for some, as long as it works well and they like it, they don't care if it came from the bowels of h3ll. I've never heard of Ed Brown guns. I'm sure he doesn't care. If he really is doucherocket, I hope his business suffers because of it. He isn't Ruger, he's a small custom gunsmith. He's a big fish in a little custom pond. When his sales eclipse Sig, then he can be a doucherocket.

I am concerned about ILLEGAL guns too, I just wish they had the same concern with ILLEGAL aliens........... Legal guns and legal aliens should be of no concern to anybody.

That would be cool - but I wouldn't count on it. I wonder if the gubmint will make them weld the barrels shut (or something equally stupid) before they are sold.

My dad served in the Korean war, if this becomes reality I'll have him hook me up!!

Here's a good one. I am at a hospital using their free WiFi access on a cheap android tablet I bought at CVS. I was on MSN, popular mechanics and other sites with no problem. I visit the nj gun forums web site and within 5 pages my internet connection disconnects and it would not let me back on again! I'm thinking that the word "gun" and other "key words" tripped some sort of filter and it terminated the connection automatically. I wonder if it'll reset by the next time I'm there or if my device is banned permanently........

A law abiding citizen should be able to buy as many guns as they want. This 12 per year (with perfect timing on the purchases) is BS. I won't ever buy 12 per year, but I do not wish to restrict anyone who wants to buy many more. Ask a woman why she needs to buy a pair of shoes every week or two. Then tell her she is limited to one pair every 30 days and needs to apply for permits which are good for 90 days..............

They make good vacuum tubes too! (keeps my vintage stereo equipment humming along)

I've got nothing against LEO's but I do believe they should live under the rules that they enforce. In other words - carry in NJ? Foggetaboutit! I hope they get traffic tickets for seat belt violations the next "click it or ticket" campaign or get a ticket for "speeding" 4 mph over the next "obey the signs or pay the fines" zero tolerance campaign. The people that make and enforce the rules generally don't obey them themselves. The rules are for "the little people". Remember Governor "wear your seatbelt" Corzine getting busted up in an accident because he wasn't wearing his seatbelt? His "highly trained" state police driver was doing over 90 mph and texting. Hmmmmmmmm..........................

Good try.......

I'm purchasing a Ruger SR9, nothing special. The "Nazi NJ compliant" 10 rd. version is in stock in any number of places. I was hesitant to mention it because, like I said, I didn't want to take the chance that someone from the store frequents the forum and will figure out who I am and put me on their chit list. I guess I don't really care as much about that anymore because even when not on the chit list I am getting chitty service.

I don't think the store is trying to rip me off, I just think they could have been more honest about how long it was going to take to procure the item before taking any deposit money. I doubt there would be a problem if I asked for my deposit back and canceled the order. Lesson learned. I will now always ask if their distributor has the item in stock before I put a deposit on an item. When they said two weeks I figured that they may place their orders every Friday and I ordered on a Monday - then give it a few days for shipping. Two weeks and the gun isn't in transit and I didn't get a phone call? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................ I've got three permits to use, so maybe I'll try the "price request" feature here for one of the purchases and see how that goes.

Bwaaahahahaaaaa!!! You owe me a keyboard - I just snarfed my coffee all over the place! LOL

PM -sent! I want to make clear that I do not have a problem with the deposit, or even if their policy were 100% down. My gripe is that they did not fully disclose that they had no source for the item at the time they took my money. I think they should have called me up a few days later saying that all their distributors were out of stock and given me the option to get my deposit back and procure the gun elsewhere. I just wanted to see if this was SOP for gun dealers, and clearly it is not. As much as I want to support local business it might be internet and FFL in the future for me.

People that scoff at a .22 caliber weapon. The general public's attitude about firearms and people who choose to own firearms.

It is not a small FFL, it is a retail store with highway frontage. It is my first purchase with them, but I don't see how that would make a difference. (should it?) My next purchase will be through a mail order dealer to a FFL. Sure I'll pay the FFL transfer fee, but I won't pay sales tax and I'll get my item a lot faster. Looks like I need to find out how to apply for an extension on a purchase permit...........

Nothing exotic or hard to find in stock online from any number of dealers.

To be fair, they didn't make me pay in full - but I do have a substantial deposit. That isn't the point. I assumed that that when they quoted me the price that their distributor had the item in stock and ready to ship. If not, they shouldn't have taken a dime and told me up front that they would have to look before even quoting a price. So it looks like my gut instinct (pretty much common sense) was correct.