deadeye74

If your not near a radio, you can listen live on www.nj1015.com

I live about 20 minutes from Camden and I know that the scum floats its way to the lower end of Camden County. What gets me really PO'd about the situation is that outside the confines of my little 1/2 plot of property, I have no rights in this state to protect myself and my family by being able to carry!

If not for deep family ties I would be headed to PA. It's sad that we have to leave a place we call home to have the same rights and privileges as the rest of the country!

I'm completely fed up with this state and there attitude that they know better than the rest of the USA! We pay the most in taxes, but get nothing in return but more rules and BS. We have to be able to do something! I feel like we live under a dictatorship!

When this takes effect, do you think anyone who sues to challenge it has a chance in hell of winning? I am going to assume that the cost of such a "smart gun" is at least double, if not triple what the average pistol costs. I can guarantee you that I WILL NOT be purchasing such a fire arm, considering the cost is probably equal to a two regular pistols, a years worth of ammo, and a premium range membership! What happens to the rest of us with our now "dumb guns" once this takes effect? Do they get permanently made safe queens until we move out of this hell hole of a state? There has to be something we can do about how ridiculous our gun laws are. I know it's like taking on a grizzly bear with a pea shooter, but so long as there is a .01% chance of making a change, we have to try!

One on the way next week then I'm in the waiting game for permits as well!

I do have a .22lr. A couple of weeks ago, Dicks had the Marlin 795 with a $25 mail in rebate, so all said in done I paid like $99 for it (without NICS and tax). I couldn't pass it up. On my trip to Cabelas, I was pretty much set on the Mosin however once at the counter I saw they had an EAA PAP 7.62x39 on sale for $349. I ended up buying the PAP. I would like to add that any more serious purchases will happen here in NJ. Arms n Ammo is very close to where I live and I had the chance to meet Paul. From my first experience there, I will say I plan on all future pistol purchases and new rifle/shotguns will more than likely be from them.

If not for my daughter and my mother, my fiancé and I would have hit the road by now, and we live in South Jersey.

Same thing happened to me when I was up there. Picked up an EAA PAP AK variant on sale for $349. It was the only semi auto that they would show me since I was from NJ. It had a huge "COMPLIANT" flag hanging from the barrel!

This sounds like a case of extreme stupidity! What kind of idiot leaves a LOADED WEAPON within reach of children?

Just read over page one of the story, and read down some of the comments under. Glad to see some people actually got their pro gun posts up on the board. Seems like the trend of the anti gun people is to point out carrying in church, court, or a bar. One person points out how its not necessary for everyone to use their second amendment right. Guess this idiot doesn't realize that our bill of rights is for EVERYONE!

Say you do have your P2P and buy online out of state but the vendor never asks for your credintsls. Would the person in NJ who is properly "authorized" to buy ammo liable for not submitting credentials to the seller? I would assume the only way someone would find out that you got the ammo from a vendor out of state was if NJSP did an audit of the sellers invoice records.

More of an excuse to hang out with friends. I hate crowds. This was a rare occasion for us to all have schedules align and spend a day together. Any excuse to get out of NJ is a good excuse!

I too braved Cabelas today. We arrived around 10AM. Not too scary. By the time we were ready to check out, all lines were about 2 miles long. Since me and my friend took our significant others, we too had to stop at KoP mall and deal with that insanity as well!

I love watching these shows however I must admit I get jealous when I see people bringing in all the full auto rifles and realize living in PRNJ I will probably never have the chance to shoot or own something like that unless I move out of state.

Thanks for the replies. I like the video idea.

Oh great, more ammo for the people who want an anti gun NJ. Nothing like stupidity!

Wish I would have checked the forum before I left for the range today. I would have loved to try the correction target! Thanks for making these!

Congrats to your son, and a big thank you for his service to our country!

Thanks for the input everyone. The Cabelas trip is not just a firearms mission. Believe me, I am all for supporting our local vendors before the box store. The Saiga is looking more attractive to me as this thread goes along...

Just updated my profile. Never realized I did not put my location. I'll probably start off with pistol ammo. In the first two weeks of owning my .45, I've gone through ammo like it's candy!

I'm planning on heading up to Cabella's for a road trip with friends between Christmas and New Years, and thinking of picking up a rifle. Originally I was going to look at surplus Moslin's, but the more I read on them, I rather consider putting my time and effort into a used semi auto rifle. My plan is to buy something for target shooting. If it's something I could change out parts/customize over time, even better. Would it be realistic to find something for under $400? A Hi-Point carbine looks like it could be fun, but not sure if I like the idea of shooting pistol ammo out of a rifle, plus I would like to be accurate in the 100-300 yard range at minimum. .223/5.56 would be more of what I was thinking, and 308/7.625 would be even better since I could possibly take it hunting out of state when I go. Of course, I'm looking for something that is NJ legal to own. I would also like to say thanks in advanced to everyone who comments. I'm new to the forum and have made a couple of posts like this before. Hope no one thinks I'm a pain in the a**, I rather learn from experienced shooters than experiment on my own without any guidance at all!

First off, WOW! I just skimmed through all 8 pages of posts on this topic! I would like to say thank you to those fighting in court for our rights. My $.02 on this.... A SOP is standard operating procedure, and not law. It's good the judge came out and noted on record that the guide in question is an SOP. Now the tricky part as I see is usually these SOP's exist so the rank and file know how to preform a specific task, weather it be request a day off, handle a car stop, etc... They also exist so if someone files a law suit or files charges against a PD, FD, etc., the agency in question has a document that says "this is how we do _________" . If a suit is filed against the NJSP for not following procedures, I would imagine that under the rules of legal discovery, the SOP in question would have to be disclosed or subpoenaed. Has anyone tried looking up to see if any cases exist where NJSP personnel were dismissed or disciplined for not following the SOP in question? I know these things usually end up getting sealed but you never know.

Ordering Lyman's 49 on Amazon today! Thanks!

Here's another question. Is the Moslin 91/30 considered "similar to" the M1 Carbine? I don't see Moslin on the the banned list, but in looking at other threads around the forum I can't help but wonder. Last thing I want is to get this thing home, take it to the range, and end up in hand cuffs.