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I would choose concealed , hands down. Unless you're Ricochet Rabbit I'm thinking you are at more of an advantage if they do not know you are armed. And IMO , in that video , that mother seems too casual until the clerk starts firing. If someone comes in waving a gun , I'm not picturing myself just sitting there with my kid on the counter like she is waiting for a lolly from the teller. The woman seemed to not notice anything until the clerk was firing at the BG . Weird.

Holmes?

She gave you very bad advice. Shooting a warning shot in your home is an irresponsible and stupid thing to do. Trying in any way shape or form to alter the scene of an incident is even more stupid . One slip up in your timeline which you will have to repeat one thousand times , can bring suspicion and great an investigation to an otherwise justified shooting.

Wow , sorry you are dealing with this. Have you brought him to an actual immunologist? Regular doctors are not always current on the latest in allergies. My baby had a bunch of issues and the doctors at the hospital and our regular pediatrician said to get rid of the dogs , they were most likely the cause. I took him to a specialist , an immunologist and a pulmonologist , and both confirmed a baby his age can not have that kind of allergy yet. They were right , that was 5 months ago , and he is fine and not allergic to dogs at all. Where are you? The immunologist at Goryeb Children's Center is excellent. They are in Morristown Memorial and Overlook in Summit .

My deepest condolences .

This ruined my morning coffee to say the least. Our town , North Arlington , just lost a 20 year old soldier in Afghanistan over the weekend. I won't lower anything for a drug addicted waster ,except my expectations for the future of this state . I have no tolerance for wasting of a life and gifts that other people would love to have. I am sorry she died , I think it is a shame , but to give her a gesture that is reserved for our heros is wrong.

BigAl , I'll split mine with you. You can take charge of the 3 1/2 year old boy lol ( he is my siggy pic) We can go either way on the kids. I am just as happy to leave all of them or some of them for the afternoon. But if I get there and there are a bucnh of kids they could have played with I'll feel all bad .

Looking forward to seeing it !

When you fill out that form , I believe you are signing written consent for them to check your mental health record. Your records can only be released by a therapist or MD with a court order , or with your signature . I would have to look at the wording on what you sign for the app , but pretty sure it covers their right to check your mental health records. Juvenille records are typically sealed. The guy who did the shootings in AZ would never have passed the NICS if the college campus he went to didn't keep things private. He had been "arrested" by campus "police" several times. I beleive they did an in campus mental health eval as well . Ultimately they expelled him because PEOPLE WERE AFRAID OF HIM. If the college did not try to handle things themselves he would have an arrest record , and would not have purchased that gun over the counter. Campus crime handled internally rather than bringing in outsiders..where have I heard that before? :/

Is the date set at April 29th? Will it be a family thing or should I book a sitter?

Yes , we women only wear an open collar shirt to the range once. Once.

Thanks for posting that I definitely want to try before buy , I'll have a better idea in a week or so .

Here is some data I collected recently . As a mother in a home with small children where guns are kept legally and safely , I have had to arm myself with some quick facts to answer to any regurgitated anti gun rhetoric I may get from family , friends , and parents of my children's friends. All this stuff is super easy to look up , I used years where official data was last available( 2006 and 2007). But the anti gun crowd would never look it up : Incidence extrapolations for USA for Accidental death: 93,591 per year, 7,799 per month, 1,799 per week, 256 per day, 10 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second. There are 93,591 accidental deaths per year on average In 2007 613 of them were due to accidental death by firearms 3443 were due to accidental drowning. The antigun crowd should next set their sights on swimming , and bathing babies .Since people will never get it into their head that a 18 month should not be left unattended in a tub , not even for 20 seconds. 515 children 4 and under drowned in 2007 , the same year accidental firearm deaths for children 4 and under were recorded as 19. 148 killed on bicycles that year. Numbers are from the CDC calculator http://webappa.cdc.g...trate10_sy.html More people aged 5 to 24 die in swimming pools than from accidental firearm discharges . There are about 10 million swimming pools in the USA. Compared to an estimated 77 to 90 million gun owners. I mention this number because anti 2nd ammendment people will say "but there are way more houses with pools than with guns " WRONG. In 2006 , 678 individuals between the ages of 5 and 24 died in swimming pools. In 2006 , 247 individuals between the ages of 5 and 24 died from accidents involving firearms.Given the fact that there are 7 to 9 times the amount of houshold with guns vs pools , it is a no brainer to see a child is less safe in a home with a pool than in a home with a gun and no pool. If there is a gun and a pool , they are way more likely to be killed by the pool. So maybe parents should have to attend a training course before they are allowed to break ground for the pool? There is just nothing statistically that supports anymore restrictions on bearing arms than what we already have.

There is also the chance that this guy was trained and was knowledgable , you don't/can't know either way based on this article.. Sometimes with things of this ilk people get too comfortable with their extensive experience and lose respect for their gun , and then get a tragic reminder of the gravity of a careless error with a firearm . It makes me think of skydiving (Pete use to skydive extensively ) ..the tragedies due to careless mistakes were certainly not limited to new inexperienced jumpers. They are probably the safest because they follow every rule and are extremely careful because they are scared s&itless and don't want to die. As the jumps add up and they get experience the fear can go down. Routine little safety checks are forgotten , more chances are taken . Pete will correct if I'm wrong but the 25 or 30 deaths or so a year a mostly experienced skydivers making mistakes that a respectful newb would not make. Anyway , there are probably plenty of similar parellels that show training and experience does not automatically = saf-ER.

Does that come in a .45 ?? lol I have so much .45 ammo now ..I made irishpete buy me a ton of .45 ammo because I was going to practice with my gun at the range every week so in the interest of pleasant dinner conversation for the next 20 weeks or so the gun I practice with best be a .45acp. I think I want a CZ in a .45 ... I coveted his CZ 76 .40 cal from the first time I shot it. The ergonomics are perfect for a small handed shooter like myself. Then again , a Glock 30 also advertises itself as ideal for small hands. This : http://www.glock30sf.com/ Sound like you have done this from the recuit/trainee perspective

What a tragedy. My heart goes out to the family . As for reporting , notice how when the ND or shooting comes from the hand of a legal owner or carrier , which is rare , that info is included in the article. However , when the gunman illegally is in possession they never say a peep about the fact that he was in violation..they'll just report the incident and leave that tidbit out.

I think I hated that safety though lol For small hands , it thumbs "off" with very little effort , but it was very difficult to thumb it back on one handed ( up for on) . I have to engage safety on with left hand , always. I really would rather no safety...I think I have pretty good trigger control , trigger is never touched until I am ready to fire. I credit that to years and years of training in gun disarms ( Krav Maga) where when you are attacker in drills , finger in trigger guard on red gun during the disarm means an x ray , splint , and 6 to 8 weeks off

Max rounds I had put through i tbefore was just over 100..that was with the Colt 7 rounder factory mags . This is the first time I went allout with the after markets. I picked them based on the nice looking bottom. I may pick up a better brand 10 rounder that just hangs out there , and not worry about looks As for FTEs..I had one or two , independant of the dud mag issue. This send me back to the drawing board for my next shopping trip . I want a revolver..but may get it with my 3rd P2P rather than 2nd as I want to do some more training . Time did fly by. It was money very well spent , lots of individual attention . Will be looking to shop that light/laser combo you have too. Looked nice

Oh , I have had dogs that would hold the door for an intruder. One of them a German Shepherd too. Just like people it is an individual thing. I 've trained 2 dogs to Schutzhund , 1 through competition agility , and 4 through Canine Good Citizen. They all have their personality strengths.Some I have had I would trust to hold an intruder at bay..others were good at barking and not much beyond that. The true balls of steel are wasted on the little dogs that are not big enough to do damage lol I am not surprised they ( the burglers ) were able to lock a Mastiff in the closet. Mine is atypical. A fear biter , the most dangerous of biters . Not real happy about it , and I have to be careful who comes on the property. She was an adult rescue. Loves us and the kids..but life has changed since we have had her. Certainly can't leave her with just anyone to go on vacay. Dogs are time buyers , holders , perimiter alarms etc. Even an attack dog is unlikely to kill or maim a grown person. If you look at dog related fatalities it is only children , elderly ..usually by a dog known to them.

It was a great course for sure ! It was a pleasure meeting The Wombat My Colt 45 1911 had some magazine issues for sure. VERY glad to learn that during training. Seems the after market 10 round magazines I bought had a dud in there , though I swear it happened with more than one of them. Upon inserting them and racking , a bullet often would not chamber at all . The 2 Colt 7 round mags that came with the gun were fine. As far as the aftermarket 10 rounders , they did not feel like they loaded right at all. Past 4 or 5 rounds it required a lot of pressure to load them. Put it to you this way , the skin is off my right thumb pad , and both thumbs feel like they were slammed in a car door. Just illustrates how important training , and training some more with your firearms is very important . IMO . The instructors were great . Knowledgable , patient , helpful , and extremely likeable . I highly recommend them.

I'm looking to buy one as well ..I would buy off the shelf a .40 cal version , but if a really good used deal on the 9mm or .45 came around I would consider it. Seems a good firearm for HD .

So sad . Sorry your wife lost her friend on that awful day :/

I may be one of the few dog enthusiasts/owners that thinks Cesar cherry picks his cases ..dog owners love him lol Funnily enough , there are a lot of paralells in the world of legally defending your home with a firearm or a dog. I have been a long time member of a dog forum , and there has been so much discussion of "what happens when my dog bites someone on my property" ..and it does happen all the times. A person cutting through a yard that happens to have a couple of Rotties in it is in danger , even if they have a Bic Mac in their pocket . Especially when there is more than one dog. Dogs get more brazen with numbers . Anyway , there are plenty of articles with links to incidents where they wonder if the owners will be sued because the dog bit a trespasser. Unfortunately , it is usually benign tresspassers like teens cutting through your yard. As previously mentioned the mere presense of loud barking dogs will deter the nepharious ones ..they prefer a silent house. And beware of dog signs have been used against people who have had their dog bite someone on their property. Most cities aggressive dog laws state that if you know your dog may bite you have to keep him secured , even on your own property. California is the most ridiculous with these propositions . Starting to sound familiar ? Here is one from a thread last year ( I just wasted half hour finding it because it involved dogs and guns and I kind of remembered who posted it lol ) : http://rawjustice.com/2011/01/31/dog-shot-while-defending-owner/

I sense a challenge... The dogs would buy me time to get to the phone and the safe. 100% certain of that. I had a Jack Russell that savaged the mailman's leg in the office I use to work in ( she use to go to work with me) . His name was Rudy. Rudy tried offering a biscuit on his way in one day because this was an ongoing issue , and she still attacked. She did not like him for some reason. She totally ignored his offer and shredded his pants . For two years after that I had to go to the Hackensack post office to pick up our company mail because our delivery purchases were revoked. Actually , let's find a postal worker forum and ask them if dogs stand down when you offer them food when you are alone on their property. That should solve the debate Postal workers being bitten by dogs in yards is an epidemic in that profession. 5,669 postal workers were attacked in 2011 , despite the rigorous training they go through to avoid said confrontation. Mastiffs are about as good watchdogs as Irish Setters in general. Mine is admittedly atypical. Been raised around dogs for 41 years , plenty bite intruders , not all , but plenty.

^ not always true , sorry ..the pizza guy came back into our house without knocking or anything because I had his pen from the credit card signing. He made it a few steps in the hall before the Mastiff abandoned a piece of pepperoni as did my big mutt that I was having them "sit" for , pounced on the pizza guy drooling and baring teeth. Pizza boy back peddled on his a$$ all the way back into the foyer and went backwards down our front steps . The dogs did not stop their advance until he was rolling down the steps and I managed to call them off. They would have bitten him if he was not retreating. They left dangling pepperoni to get him. The guy could have tried stopping them with food , they would have just eaten it after he was neutralized lol Some dogs bite when provoked , even if they are not trained. A lot do not , very true. English Mastiffs as a breed are unpredictable in this area. Most do not make good guard dogs as they are not biters. I could see someone luring a big affable Mastiff into a bathroom. Not mine though , for whatever reason she will charge and try to bite. She may not be a pure bred as she is only 130 pounds. My boxer /pit/hound mix will absolutely initiate with someone who forced their way in the house . He is very protective and territorial .