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Funny , I had just been telling my husband that I want to do a few gun related photoshoots ( I am photographer) and I have been researching how do it safely , location , the law , etc.. I am pretty sure I won't be going this route though .

yes , and he is being uber careful about where his gun is pointing...AFTER he was just letting rounds fly 2 feet from someone's head.

sending PM now

His rational in the second video is unbelievable as well.

You have GOT to be kidding me. At first I thought , that can't be real. But obviously it is. I don't even know what else to say.

I'll have to listen to that. I have had that concern for myself when leaving the BH alone . Especially at night when you have to park way down the tracks. I worry about getting mugged for sure , always watching my back and careful when putting my stuff in the car...check car before getting in , etc. I live on a dead end with 5 houses , 3 are officers , and we are armed in the home. That does not give me too much comfort though. Shootouts with thugs who don't care about their life or yours are cool on tv , that is about it. If I thought I had been followed home from the range I would not pull onto my block or into my driveway...I would probably back it out with ceremony ( if I got home before noticing) , tires making smoke and high tail it to the police station. See if they follow me there. What can you do besides be vigilant though?

We had X10 piezos on our walk in counter . For like a week before I smashed them. They are the most loudest and annoying thing in the world. Which is good in it's application , but not as a "test me" display next to your head where you work all day. I really do know about this stuff and Nick is giving , IMO , the best answer. I was technical sales for 14 years and spec'ed out many a complex system for high security application jobs. I was there for the whole digital revolution and it did not go smoothly. I am not surprised to hear they still do not have an across the board reliable solution. (I'm home for 5 years with my kids now) . I have Vonage and paid for enhanced 911. I have called 911 from our home twice. Once , it worked ok. It got me through after one transfer that seemed an eternity. The second time , when our 3 month was turning blue and my husband was about to start CPR I got transferred 3 TIMES , each time with the call saying " town and state please" and "what is your emergency" only was asked once ..by that time too much time had elapsed and I yelled forget it ! And hung up . I was going to throw the baby in the car and do 90 to Hackensack myself. Finally he came out of it , thank God and we were able to drive him in ourselves safely. Point is , the transfer data system worked once , but was an EPIC fail another time. I now have the number for our police written on the fridge. They have 24/7 dispatch. Not d*&king around with 911 ever again unless it is a landline which I am thinking of getting again. With the way technology is and with the length that these things to take marry up ( and the digital world is changing so quickly that what works once quarter might be obsolete in the next quarter) , it is not surprising to hear of inconsistent monitoring response time . And if you have a great experience with ADT , that is great . But know that when you are recommending ADT you are not necessarily recommending the crew that handles your stuff. Plus , they could change central station contract internally , you won't know about it , and the new one might suck and you learn about that fact the hard way. Go with a private owned company that does their own central station monitoring . Nick - I worked for King Alarm until ADI bought them out and then fled to Alarmax. By the way , ADT is owned by Tyco and has been up against monopoly and antitrust allegations . They are huge and buy up everything from installers , to the the distributors , to the actual equipment . They are corporate bullies and by owning everything soup to nuts they can afford to severely low ball accounts and bids . It squashes competitive pricing , creates a bid monopoly situation and drives the independents out of business .They can put in a fire detector for so cheap because the parent company Tyco owns the detector , the store the detector needs to be bought from , and the guy putting the detector in. An independent guy has to pay way much more for the same detector so his price has to be higher. Honeywell is the other big brother company. Now , not that it will affect everyone , but I know some people here are" buy local and buy small oriented ". You might pay a bit more on the install , but your monitoring will probably be less $$ and better taken care of , you won't get gouged if you decide to add one piece to your spec'ed system ( a "free install free gear " chain specialty tactic ) , and the guy you buy from will have pride in his company and will take better care of you in the run. Remember ADT companies get sold . The next people to answer your call may not be the same ones you had a good experience with. for years , on any given day

fail secure electric locks work even if the power is cut . Most buildings and commercial applications require fail safe locks that do open when power is cut to it ( a function of the fire panel usually ) . Fail secure locks have key over ride. That way you can still get in or out if the power fails or is cut. The touch sense bar on the inside would not work without power either. You would have to use key override. That is why they are a no no in commercial and school applications . You can't make it so that someone needs a key to get out of a room or building in case of emergency. Basically fail secure locks need power to open , but fail safe looks need power to stay locked . Know what I mean? Check out Rutherford Controls and IEI systems for product and spec ideas. An installer would have to buy and install for you ..but one door system should not break the bank. If you do go that way , PM me and I'll get you to a good NJ locksmith that won't overcharge.

He probably had NO idea he was breaking a law. If I remember the people talking about it it turned out he was going hunting :/ Stupid you know...what is the safety value of saying you have to walk around with a long gun cased or shielded from view? Is the BG saying "oh gee I better hide it then " . You know , odds are the bad guy will hide until he is ready to use it , or he is going to visibly menace with it if he wants to ..regardless of the law ! He will not be following any ccw or open carry laws period. Laws like that only shield people from having to look at them..i.e PC B.S ..and it gets Joe Hunter a misdemeanor charge because of crappy parking. I guess my point is I feel the police department often gets put into a no win. Damned if you do and damned if you don't . This town is steeped over the last 40 years in political corruption ,and indictments for our politicians and judges have happened in recent history. Political strong arming and alliances often tie the hands as you go down the chain of command.

Oh , absolutely. But unfortunately for the fella carrying his legally , it happened on the heels of the nefarious kid ..so the town was shook up and in crackdown mode. not saying it is right ..but I guess the police were able to charge him for not having it cased? See now , that could be a charge handed down even though the law does not really say it has to be cased walking to your car from your house. IMO in my short time , the ambiguity of the law in NJ has been very frustrating to try and decipher and adhere to. Just look at the pages of debates that occur here over it..if the law was written clearly there would be no debate. So was the guy breaking the law because his shotgun was not cased? 3 pages of follow up debate I'm sure. You know , it seems like they want you to screw up , so they all get together , drink , and play Mad Libs when writing these statutes.

I did read up on it , but it seemed rare and over internet reported. How long had you been shooting your 629 before it happened ? I will keep an eye on that for sure though. Hence the importance of practicing often with your guns

The problem with ADT is that they are a chain..any independent installer has a shot at being an ADT dealer. So some are good ..many are bad. Think Tiger Schullman. Some good , others not so much.

Conversely , also around the same time frame of a man walking/driving around town with a gun was responded to and it turned out it was a large teen from another town that was on his way to the library to gun down another boy over a girl. I feel for the police who have to make decisions and somehow try to balance everyone's rights while keeping everyone safe. They violate someone's rights , they are called names , the ignore something and some overgrown kid from Newark kills one of our town children..crucifixion of the department.

Here ... http://www.northjersey.com/news/North_Arlington_police_lock_down_schools_after_reports_of_armed_gunman.html

Yep . Our mayor in this 2 mile wide by 3 mile long town is is so far left he is almost full circle to the right again. I'm sure the police in this town , who I like , were put in a no win situation.

Ray - tried one with the rubber grips. It was great , but the grips did add a little critical distance for me. The exposed backstrap is a bit harder on the hand , but it feels like a much better fit. I'm willing to sacrifice a little comfort for good form

Well , shot it last night.Love it. Even for my first try I am more accurate with it than with my/our other guns. I have no nits about it whatsoever , the grips allowed me to actually REACH the trigger , subsequently I pulled 50 rounds in double action with 38s , 50 in single action . Just testing things. Did great in double action , very great in single. Then on to the .357 magnums. Ok , yep , more kick to it than my husband's 6 inch 686 with the Magnums lol But , I shot 50 to 70 rounds of Magnums through it . Double and single action. When I could not pull double anymore , I only pulled single. I was happy with the results , and had to cut my 1 hour of range time down to 50 minutes because my thumb was bleeding and the .357 rounds had blown off my last bandaid and I was out of .38s . A big +1 to the nice RO at BH who had bandaids behind the counter Yeah , ok I won;t be putting 100 rounds of .38 then 50 plus in .357 on a regular range trip. The husband gave me hell over it , fingers looked a little hard ridden. But , it was my new gun!! I wanted to shoot it! Ok , so I had to open the cap on the gallon of milk this a.m with my teeth. I won't always shoot it so .357 round intensive. Costs too much anyway . They way I look at it if I can shoot 50 .357s out of it with decent accuracy at SD range , that will pay off if God forbid I have to only shoot 5 to make it count. After finally shooting it I would definitely recommend it to a person with very small hands . It has , to me at least, a very mild recoil in 38s . I am able to put proper finger placement on the trigger without rotating my grip to reach , so my grip on the gun is solid . I can cock the hammer for single action no problem . Keep in mind these are all things that gave me problems on most other revolvers ( except a light double action snubnose I shot ..but that was unpleasant in .38 ..I would not want to send .357s out of it for more than 2 or 3 rounds ) . It is a really nice compromise between size , weight , looks , and stopping power capabilities. I would thing that even someone that does not have umpa loompa hands would appreciate the agility and feel of it. My husband has large hands and he said it felt good in his hand .

Our town was locked down just over a year ago because " a guy was walking around with a gun" Turned out to be someone walking his shotgun 4 blocks away to his car. Not everyone has a driveway here , and parking can be bad . If I remember the police blotter correctly , he was found to legally owned the guns but I believe he was charged with creating or nuisance or something along those lines. I love my block. It is a dead end with 5 colonials on it. 2 are the homes of officers , 1 is the home of a retired officer , our home is ..em..fortified..and the last house is a fireman. We're covered

From the lock perspective , I would choose a fail secure electric strike and lock set , with an exit bar on the inside. This would have more holding force than a regular BAL , you can use an armored keypad entry on the outside..the keypad can be away from the door ( just run 24/4 to where you want the keypad ) there is a max rated distance , but at least it does not have to be right next to the door. For egress , on the inside , put a exit bar ( you know , the push to exit bars ) ..a touch sense bar is nicest. This way , your door will always be locked , you just need to know the code ( no keys to lose ) to get in , and you will also be locked IN if you want to be , to get out you just hit the touch sense bar. Total batcave. You'll need an electrician , but hey it will be worth it.

Thanks ! I did go through the trouble of getting out my product photography lightbox and gear for it , seemed worthy

If your sister in law has small hands , I think she'll appreciate this particular model in this configuration. I shot the model 60 with the rubber grips and found it nice , but the pro series definitely gives me better reach to the trigger.

I sold security gear to installers for 14 years , and I second what Nickjc is saying here 100% . In fact would not be surprised if I know Nickjc lol I worked for King Alarm , then Alarmax . You can get your screens alarmed. LMK if you can't find someone to do it. My old company in Hackensack will do it.

I agree that bullying is a huge problem , but I disagree with the media's portrayal of it and its results. Mentally unstable people kill people. They also tend to be bullied because they are unstable. Which came first the chicken or the egg? Also , antibullying programs are not working to reduce the bullying , the same way firearm crimes do not go down with gun laws. Having teachers do all the intervening is not going to help a bullied child's cause. Bully proof the kid I say , give them the confidence and mental tools to know that bullies are the ones with the issues and that being bullied does not define them , and give them the physical skills and PERMISSION to hit and push back if they have to. And even after all that some kids will still be bullied. You have to give them the love and security at home to help balance the hurt . Tell the school by all means , and talk to the bully's parents. I would totally tell another parent I would press charges if their child harasses my child again. In fact , I know a friend who had a son getting bullied on the bus every day. All her meetings with the principle and all the punishment handed down to the bully did nothing. My friend then went to the police and made a report , and called the bully's parents personally and said the police would be called immediately the next time their son touches their kid and charges would be pressed against him. Low and behold , the bully got an aid to babysit him on the bus , and his parents proably threatened his life if he touched my friends kid again , becuase the parents now felt they were facing charges. You have to be the squeaky wheel , and you can't rely on the ineffective school policies to keep your kid safe. All that aside , I think being mentally ill makes a kid a target for bullying and I think it takes a mentaly ill kid to murder. I don't think one leads to the other in a normal situation. And you'll know if the gun was illegally owned and/or aquired ..because the media won't mention it. If it turns out to be legally owned by a grandparent that he was living with , it will be ALL over the news.

Oh , ok , the bullet is to prop the gun up lol . I have product brackets and stuff. Buying in PA - worked out great. Credit card was charged in PA by the store , they shipped that day to my local FFL . True Value hardware in Lincoln Park. They charge 40 bucks for the check and handling. Other firearms dealers charged extra if it was a new gun ( since they sell their own new guns) ..but the hardware was store was 40 bucks period. From the shopping around I did , I think the prices were decent at Classic Pistol in PA. And they were very friendly even though they were pretty crowded and busy. That is nice. Plus , there is a range there. So you could make a day of it. I'll go back there for my next purchase. The range was crowded on that day ( atypical Bob tells me) but it was a holiday so maybe a few too many people thought it would be a good opportunity to hit the range . It was the grips that sold it for me. They take a little distance off to the trigger and feel great. The model 60 I actually shot had the rubber grips which were nice..but these wood one were more fitting to my hand at least. Not sure about the 3" full underlug model. I kind of knew this gun with these grips were right for me. I shot .38s out of the other model 60 that I tried. It was fine . I probably will be squinting the first time send a .357 out of it . I'm sure it wil take some practice and getting use to but will be fine in the end. I shot .357s out of my husband's 686 6 inch and I honestly did not notice I was not still shooting .38s ((shrug)) .Pete did notice I took a little extra on the recoil though lol , but I did not notice on my end . He said " those were .357 magnums" and I just said " oh " . Longer heavy gun , I know. I don't mnid feeling it a bit though I'll let you know If I still have flat palms after trying magnums out of it lol

I do not know if it is the same with all PDs..but ours ( North Arlington) we just walked in ,handed to the Sgt , he brought it in to the Chief , and he signed it on the spot. They have been pretty good overall with the whole process though. Personally , I would walk in , say you were in the area and wanted to know what you have to do for an extension. Maybe if the Chief is there you will get the same courtesy as we did.