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it should be handled like typically done with a poor little dindu nuffin....through a deal, theyd drop all the weapon charges for a guilty plea on the cracked window and a seatbelt charge....let them walk with a "i promise ill pay you" for the fines......yes these guys were idiots, but far less harmful to the common person unlike the vermin in "insert any sewer city" that are caught and released daily for violent crimes

a nj compliant ar is not ny compliant

and be sure your windshield isn't cracked

unless it has this stock id not advise it

oh no i know that they, both the issuing agency as well as njspfu both keep record.....i was joking about the comedy of them telling me they don't register/keep track....the "they" has been various officers in the issuing agency sgt, lt, and det sgt.......as well as a female sgt ( i believe from memory) i spoke with in trenton fu a year or so ago ...all said parts or all of the same things i quoted... when i was standing in my local pd i pointed to the line at the top of permit "permit to purchase handgun and for of register" and said .."why does it say this then?"...answer was along the lines of "oh thats always been on there but we don't do anything with it...we just shred it when we get them back"... i just smile/chuckle and let it go

wait they keep telling me "there is no firearm registry" ....knowing the reality ..but just for fun and to see the response i now and then ask "what happens with the 3 copies of pistol permit?..and "ummm nothing we just shred them...we don't keep a record of who has what...are you one of those conspiracy nuts.....why do you care anyway..do you have something to hide?"...is usually the answer i get in parts or full when I've asked various people involved with the issuing of permits over the years the years

i hear ya...kills me to walk in to cabelas and see them selling gen4 glocks for $649....and right down the street in a smaller gun shop with more knowledgeable employees that have to be paying far more for the same gun and selling them for $540....

what is their regular pricing?

looks good but don't stop there..taking off the finger humps on the front strap and thumb rests on the sides makes an even better feeling grip

i was there once and the red above was my experience....i left and will never step foot in there again....ive since heard people say "ohh thats just the way he is, he's old, he really a good guy/christian etc etc....and i like shooting there because its close.....his prices make gun broker look like a going out of business sale...but people still shop there and give him their money..... to me i don't think its that unlike shopping at a store owned by sweeny...knowing he hates everything you believe in and isn't shy about telling you so but he sells something you want for way more than you can get it elsewhere but you might have to drive 30-60 mins and give you're money to someone that is on your side and not working against your cause?.....seems like a no brainer to me...but i guess I'm part of a dying breed I'm not giving my money to the enemy/people/businesses that think they are entitled to rights others are not

nice try....but a non leo nj resident will see jesus before a nj issued ccw license

+100000000000000 ......and ill add don't have vehicle windows covered in stickers like an elementary school kids folder...why do some gun owners insist on trying to seek attention , more often its the unwanted kind

after having the time to actually read the .gov link all 5 pages of legalese of bs regulations...i have to agree with those that say nothing has really changed...the original "no deviations in the course of travel than reasonably necessary" stands....pissing /pooping your pants is not reasonable then and they just reiterate the same all the nancy's that were clamoring for an exemption for a sit down lunch at joe bobs burger house still didn't get that...they got 5 pages saying the same thing as it said 5 yrs ago, i agree with what pk90 has said , its smoke and mirrors .....a long winded convoluted statement that doesn't loosen the nazi travel restrictions..and if anything tightens things, as if its not written there it will be illegal (in practice) there is a line in it which basically says "if the officer is unsure if its reasonable charge the traveler and let the courts decide" ( II-B)...... then in II-c-2......it mentions taking a "roundabout" route to simply "enjoy the drive" as not permissible again officer discretion to him taking njtp may ok but taking 295 that runs parallel may not acceptable? and the line about passing several options and choosing a later one as unacceptable....so if you have to go to the bathroom and you have your wife and kids with you...and the first 2 you see are dirty looking gas stations with the bathroom doors sitting open and a dirty horror movie looking truck stop..you have to tell your wife and daughter to suck it up and use those facilities as opposed to driving another mile to a better place? thats essentially what this 5 page bs says the most disturbing thing i think is even though we know how overreaching nj is...its really driven home if you actually read every line start to finish 5 pages about "limiting time a firearm" is "outside its cage" in fear of "how it could be used" in circumstances ...like self defense maybe?....the simple and right solution is to throw all these bs laws out the window.....and come into sync with 97% of the other states where they don't feel the need to tell you what road to drive on to get to your destination... all the people that think this is a win are sadly delusional its little more that an attempt to make people think there was a change when there wasn't because they apparently see gun owners as unintelligent fools....im surprised as many here are proving them right? nj mindset and a good portion of nj gun owners lol-------> http://gph.is/11vUiYo

Finally, the Attorney General will consider how new technology might streamline the processing of permit applications by directing the Superintendent of State Police, within 45 days, to convene a study group and report its findings to the Attorney General within 180 days of the group’s first meeting. hmmmm... i believe the "nics" check would qualify as "new technology" in comparison to nj's archaic process that would streamline the process...if they'd look at the 45 (+/-) other states that simply use that at pos without dna sampling and redundant checking ..lol

that to me seems crazy..especially in nj as much as they are so far up our communal asses that they wouldn't have something in place to allow for a check at point of purchase of used as an ffl

for the record i have no dog in this fight..i don't know the owner or have ever been to the shop ...and was just talking in general and not directed toward the shop being discussed

thats what i thought when he told me that...i would have thought that a gun shop especially big like cabelas could/would be able to call some line to run a trace on a serial number prior to paying out money for something that may be stolen...but he said they couldn't...

i don't believe most shops run guns they purchase used....i have a friend that works at cabelas in the gun library that buys guns...people walk in they look at them make an offer if they take the offer they pay them and usually put them out for sale within 24 hrs for sale...no running the numbers to check for theft...

surprised this shitshow hasn't been sent to the litterbox err 1st amendment lounge by now lol

welcome ..my favorite small shop in jersey is freedom ammo in mantua, owner is a retired police chief and great guy selection is pretty decent but being small and relatively new doesn't have the inventory of a place like cabelas..but much better service and conversation, what he doesn't have he can usually get in a couple days,... as far as shop range combos...not sure in your immediate area but a little further south (20-30 mins or so) you have a few indoor range options hagues indoor range in West Deptfotd, bobs little sport shop in Glassboro, bangers sport shop in Hammonton, further south you have shooters sporting center in Little Egg Harbor Twp , over in pa you have target master in chadsford, theres a few outdoor ranges but they're mostly club type deals,

that is a valid point....keep carving out more protected groups...lol

so many lines in that deeply anger me.....furthering the "us and them" mentality

if it were a nj resident.... dui, on an embankment @ 0330 with hollow points clearly not going directly to and from exempted locations for the pistol and hollow points ...would they have been cited and released? id venture to say no

yes..just the people that it effects...and rights for themselves...example "we must fight to make nj recognize out of state co's and armored car personnel as leo's and grant the rights of self defense to them"......not nj laws are unconstitutional and need to be fixed...its a case by case...philly black mother heading to ac at 0200 loaded gun in purse ...give her a pardon make her go away......pa co..loaded gun....pardon him..make it go away...nj citizen drops off friend on way back from range unloaded weapons stored as per transportation laws...screw him..put him under the jail with murders

no they've always known...just feel "it would be money and time wasted"...take too long and too much money thus cutting into their coffers..they stick with the easy wins.. county fair ccw right at a county fair in a constitutional carry state...lol..... so they put out a video that all the nj people will see and share on their twatter, and clownbook pages and get all excited that the "nra is finally going to do something for nj".....and everyone rushes to donate extra money.....all the while nra knows damn well they aren't going to do sh%$ they're just dangling a carrot on a string infront of the donkey to keep the money flowing........the old saying about the two hands and seeing which one fills up first applies here.....one will be full and the other will be empty..anyone care to wager which one it will be? Edit: after typing and thinking a moment......when people start to really question/doubt the nra ..they release a video..people rush to send in money....they do nothing...its a cycle.....perhaps if everyone that actually gives a damn about anything other than skeet shooting/fudding were to call and tell the nra that they wished to cancel their memberships and they won't be renewing until they actual DO SOMETHING for nj directly ... not the mind@$&k*...."look you nj people don't understand that us getting the right for people to carry in a family owned one location deli in az...is actually helping you...we just need you to send more money so we can continue the good fight to get you your rights back"....