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Sadly, they do not make the collector 1 hr anymore. As per Patriot they are moving to 2.5 hr fire safes only. I called to clarify a few questions and place the order. Very sad. I would have bought the 1 hr collector right then and there. The 2.5 hr fire model in the same size is 500-600 more.

If the antis only knew they could clear the room by announcing that Cabela's has .22LR bulk packs in stock... Givem hell boys.... (Admit it.. you checked the site just in case)

Id venture to say that its hard to keep a holster attached to yoga pants so a little handed retention is in order. Why couldnt she simultaneously remove her hand once the weapon frees itself of the friction of the holster before following through with the draw?

30 min fire rating. If i go back to 12 gauge models I think my budget would be 1000-1500, but for 11gauge and up id drop the 2k. I just found out there's a tractor supply right off 195 by me. Might take a trip tomorrow and see if they have any larger safes

You're right I should add them to the list. A little lacking on the exterior aesthetics, but certainly a quality name in the safe world. I will include that in my comparison. Edit* Sadly the Sturdy series spec'd in a comparable configuration weighs in at about $2500. I simpply cant get myself to go that high.

So after a horrendous bout with Lowes and my failed purchase of a Liberty Colonial 30. I have hit the safe market again and this time I am upping my budget. My size requirements are 36-39"x60"+, fire rating preferably 45-60 mins+. Must be black in color, and have an electronic lock (dial purists need not chime in) If it has a keyed back up it would be a plus but not necessary. My max budget is $2000 delivered I am currently eying the Patriot Safe Collector 1hr : http://www.patriotsa...ion-_p_488.html I have a few specific questions before I settle on them regarding the construction i.e. "4 gauge door" being plated or just a total of 4 gauge worth of steel in different layers of the door, the bolt placement and active vs static etc. The second is an Amsec SF6036: http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B002MMIL5K Im all down for the name that comes with Amsec, but for 2k and a 1/4 plate steel door, the body is only 12 gauge. Kind of disappointing. The next tier up from this in a similar size is another thousand dollars. Lastly, and not likely is the Liberty Franklin 35: http://tinyurl.com/bthsgcu (gander mountain) (gander mountain id cheat a little on the price. I believe id actually drive over to the nearest one and have them forklift it onto my truck) I had a shabby experience with Liberty. Lowes themselves dropped the ball so many times it is almost hard to forget that a locking bolt fell out of the door and was sitting on the floor of the safe let alone the other two I had to hand tighten. There is also about a 3/8" gap between door and frame which really doesnt sit well with me for it being a composite door. So while im not sure if the Franklin is a huge step up, I'm leary on taking the chance again on company so backlogged they are sacrificing quality for quantity. So there it is. If there is any insight, or alternate solutions you may know of within my price point please let me know. This whole safe ordeal has gone on for 3 months and im not ready to go through that nonsense again. If there is anything I didnt take into consideration with my selections chime in. Im new to the safe game. Although ive done my research as to what to look for in a safe, I am also looking for the best price for the amount of safe I want. Thanks

they had the gold match in stock the other day too as well.. good goooooood.. signs of more stock.

For what its worth why not just spend the $20-30 and get a new one? If you can find the same manufacturer more than likely it will use the same pin connector. No hassle of turning off breakers just unplug the old and plug in th new. Even if you have to replace the wire harnass.. Secure the power at the breaker for the detectors, and remove old harnass from wire nuts and twist in the new ones.

Im sure in woodshop nowadays they only glue together pre-cut pieces for birdhouses.

He might sell it, but this right here is the begining of what I have been waiting for.. You are seeing more parts and ammo stay in stock for longer periods of time.. Rifles on the shelves. The moment of reckoning is here for all the fear buyers and folks that had to have that 2k AR. I hope he doesnt sell and everytime he opens his safe he's reminded of the one or two other rifles he could have bought with the amount he overpaid.

I wouldnt say shitty.. but they are not as good as say Arizona. And I believe what mipa was trying to say was that he took the time to stock his bunker with ammo before all of this, so for him there is no reason to look for ammo. My beliefs, if you buy a box or two at a time, I believe his analogy fits..If you shoot alot and have not modified your tendencies to accomodate the ammo drought, you also should fall victim to the shortage... now the poor new shooter on the other hand...

emails dispatched. Sen Holzapfel in particluar got a strongly worded one as he falls into my legislative dist.

Got my hands on some federal bulk match 175 last night from PSA. They seem to be keeping more in stock now..It isnt selling out in a few hours like the past few months.. ohh btw they have AE 9mm for 18 a box if you feel like paying for it.

Why would you want to take out a hardwired system? Its there to warn the occupants as soon as possible. If you wanted to sub detectors already in place for monitored detectors at 150-250 a piece it would cost a fortune on most new homes. Sprinklers in residential new construction was a hot topic, but was most likely squashed by the weight of developers not wanting to tack on additional costs to their units. You may see sprinklers or some type of future equivelant of a built in suppression system, but in my opinion not in the next 20 years as a conservative estimate.

State law dictates that all new construction built after 1990 have hardwired smoke detectors with battery back up in the bedrooms, 10ft from every bedroom in the hallways, and at least 1 on every floor(basement). Any monitored systems are above and beyond what the state requires, but the hardwired detectors are now mandatory. (for new construction, or with homes that have renovated a certain percentage of its sq footage) More than likely due to the frequent placement of the hardwires is that you will trip the local system first, however this is more for occupant notification to vacate the residence. If you place your monitored detectors properly, it wont be long (seconds) before smoke finds its way to the monitored detector.

Its fitting that he waited until after the fed vote that he would see which way the wind was blowing.

Depending on what you were buying...alot of retailers refuse to ship handgun ammo to NJ regardless of law. Some might also refuse all ammo sales regardless of type.

"While not official (we consider "official" based upon what is posted by USFA/NFFF) - details from reliable and involved fire service leadership at the scene in West, Texas (20 miles north of Waco) are indicating that, at this time it appears that: 5 West Firefighters, 4 EMS Medics, 1 Off Duty Fire Captain from Dallas (who was in town at the time and was assisting) and 1 unconfirmed (unknown agency at this point) Firefighter have been killed in the Line of Duty. Active search and rescue operations are continuing." http://www.firefighterclosecalls.com/secret.php

Now who would do that?