TheDon

On the lighter side (For entertainment purposes. Let's try not fight over this one)… Here is how NOT to conduct an interview with a LEO (paraphrased from memory, not precise quotes): Interviewing officer: Do you have any idea why we are here? Resident: I’m not certain. It could be for a number of reasons. Interviewing officer: We are here because we received a complaint from a local resident. Do you have any idea what the complaint might be about? Resident: No one called me to complain about anything. Interviewing officer (now appearing a bit frustrated): You know, honesty is always the best policy and I think you know why we are here. Resident: I really do not want to speculate. (Keep in mind the obserdity of this conversation because there are no fewer than 30 spent roman candle sticks laying all over the ground) Just about that precise moment, we hear the booming voice from one of the kids explaining to another kid in the swimming pool: “It’s the cops; they’re here because of the fireworks.” It was one of those priceless moments. I sincerely commend both officers for maintaining their composure. In their place, I would have been ROTFLMAO.

Small town. Most township officials know both me and my wife by name. I know I'm getting $hit for this the next time I go to the PD for permits.

1,000% agree. Officer safety first. Why not park the two cruisers on the street in direct view of my front door, ring my front doorbell and talk to me on my porch. Heck, talk to me at my kitchen table if you'd like; I'll pour you a cup of coffee while you pat my dog. Officer safety became more of an issue when the officers decided to hide in my shrubbs and sneak into my back yard. This thread started over a question about whether the procedure was appropriate for the circumstances. I am still not convinced that a knock at the front door would not have been the more appropriate strategy. But if I felt the situation was worth escalating, I would not have chosen to discuss it in a public forum like this. Huh? Nothing I posted could be construed as an inability to "get over it" or denying my responsibility.

+1 Passive-aggressive Nor'easters. In America, neighbors are supposed to talk to one another.

All good points from the LEO. And I 99.9% agree if the encounter would have been on the street or a crowded neighborhood. But, this was a disorderly person's call, not a criminal call. And this was in the back yard of a 13-year resident of the community. Some things to think about from the citizen's point of view: 1. I was able to visually confirm the status of the interviewing officer's sidearm. The patrollman was standing off with his hand either on or inches from his sidearm, blocking my view. I had no idea if his sidearm was secured or if he was ready to rock-n-roll. It was an unnecessarily intimidating posture to assume in a property-owner's back yard. Even my 15-year-old son noticed and asked me afterward, "WTF was up with the rookey with his hand on his gun?" 2. What if I had seen the officers lurking in my bushes. From my perspective, it would have been 2 adult males in dark clothing on my property observing a group of teenagers, 4 of whom were females in swimsuits. Things could have escalated into a very dangerous situation.

Old English Sheepdog: Briard:

Seem to be reading a lot of your situation into mine. Teenagers having a poolparty and being loud at 9:00 on a Saturday night does not equal all-night kegger. No reason to presume that the situation was not safe and supervised or that I would not have willingly shut things down if a neighbor called on the phone and said they were trying to sleep.

Nothing left the physical confinds of my yard. Kids getting hurt is a bunch of crap. 30 years ago, when you could get M80's and cherry bombs, yes. But today, all you can get is class C stuff. You would have to be a total tard to get hurt with class C fireworks.

All good points. But WTF was up with the Ptlm standing off the Cpl, with his hand on his hip? bhunted, Briards have to be one of the top 10 most awesome dogs. And, you have seen them: Dennis the Menace (U.S.) - "Ruff" My Three Sons - "Tramp" Get Smart - Agent K-13 "Fang" Married... with Children - "Buck" Dharma & Greg - "Stinky" Addams Family - "Them" Top Dog - (Film starring Chuck Norris - 1995) I love this clip even though the dog is at least 15 lbs overweight. I think it is because he has a broken ear, just like Sam on Loony Tunes: http://youtu.be/qOAPTVC3Bik

Gun Control—the arrogant attitude that regards the victim of a sidewalk robbery as being somehow morally superior to the armed citizen who defended himself against an armed attacker. Liberals would say, "surrender and beg." But you hear stories of punk-a$$ gang-bangers who shoot the victim needlessly even after they surrender their wallets just for the "status" they get from doing it. Your friend is lucky. Maybe this is a sign that he needs to quit smoking.

First, I want to establish that I have the utmost respect for our local PD from the Chief and his administrative staff down to the newest patrolman. However, I had an encounter with our local PD on Saturday night and I am a little hesitant to believe that everything went by the book. It was generally pleasant with a positive and appropriate outcome, so I am not complaining. But I do have a couple questions: Background: My sons had 6 of their highschool friends over for a pool party and one of my passive-aggressive neighbors called the cops because they were entertaining themselves with some class C fireworks. It was well past 9:00 and dark outside. My back yard is completely fenced (because of the pool) but my front and side yards are not. 1. Are LEO allowed to come onto private property, lurk behind the cover of shrubbery, and observe people in their back yard without announcing their presence? I don't know how long they were there, but the officers admitted to observing the party from the side yard; which they could not have done unless they were in my shrubbs (the shrubbs obscure any view into my back yard from my side yard). 2. Are LEO allowed to un-latch the gate of a fenced-in back yard and enter without announcing themselves or requesting permission to enter? I did not notice their presence until they were inside my back yard (I suspect it was the sound of the gate closing that got my attention) and they did not identify themselves until I started to approach them. 3. I own a Briard (see my avatar) who would defend his flock (my kids) to the death. Luckily, I had him inside the house for his safety with the kids shooting roman candles. If he had been out, he would most certainly have challenged the officers as they entered my back yard. Would the officers have been allowed to use deadly force against him? 4. Is it a reasonable procedure for the junior officer to stand off from the senior officer with his right hand on his hip while the senior officer interviews the homeowner? This; with 8 teenagers standing around?!?! Again, the encounter ended positively and I received only a stern warning. Both patrolmen's behavior otherwise was professional and we had a reasonable conversation. But all day today I kept thinking about how many ways things could have gone very very very badly. I was curious as to the thoughts of LEO forum members on how this played out. Thanks.

I bought my son a M&P15/22 for his 13th birthday. I am basically very happy with its accuracy and reliability. But if I had a do-over, I would buy him an affordable AR15 and a CMMG conversion kit. Then, I could simply give him the 5.56 BCG and a stack of new mags next summer for his 16th birthday instead of now needing to buy him a complete new rifle. Seriously consider the advice above.

If he purchased and owned it legally in our neighboring Socialistic Commonwealth of NannYschovenia, it could could not be an AK and could not have had more than 10-round mags. Safe bet that it was a variant (like a Saiga). Also, 16 rounds fired from two mags (what they call "clips") sort of lends evidence to them being 10-rounders.

I have since replaced the MBUS with Troy battle sights, put an Aimpoint cover on the reddot sight, added a Magpul vertical foregrip, and added two more sling attachments and a Magpul tactical sling. Maybe I need to take a new picture.

It was a fun couple of days last winter. I might have to do another one this winter.

2 years of college tuition or 45 1911's... Decisions, decisions...

How the heck does someone take four .45's in the torso on top of a 9mm to the gut and keep on fighting. He had to be on drugs.

The field manual for the Soviet Army specified diesel fuel (kerosene) and motor oil as suitable field cleaning and lube agents. Personally, I use Hoppes and Safariland CLP as cleaners, Butches Boreshine as a solvent, and Slip 2000 EWL for lube. The way I see it, I have spent tens of thousands of $$$$$ on my firearms; I can afford to spend a couple more $$ to clean them like it is 2012, not 1952.

OK, back to HUMOR please.

I ordered from Gallery of Guns once. Great Experience. Did the transfer through A&A. I have orderd 11 firearms through Bud's. Every time, they had the best price anywhere, period. Moreover, it is not just a matter of Bud's being cheaper than Davidson; Bud's does not charge sales tax. Which is an additional 7% savings.

I need to remember the shop owner's justification: one of the suspect shouted "kill the [expletive]," No question about reasonable belief.

Sometimes there are residual expired codes. You have to read.

You can find codes anytime at www.slickguns.com.

Please, God. Please deliver unto me such a computer glitch such that I may partake in such a splender as is an un-neutered tactical rifle. I promise, I will heed your sign and swear off any new gun purchases for 1 year.

If you pitch a tinfoil tent over your computer screen, they can't see what you type.