TheDon

Please do not trust interpretations of international law and the Constitution from people who do not even know that the Senate does not ratify a treaty. The reason why no one else is talking about this is NOT because this guy is smarter than everyone else, or knows something that everyone else does not know. The reason no on is talking about this is because the Vienna Convention says that the executive branch cannot violate a treaty while waiting for Senate approval and the Presidents ratification. i.e., When we signed the START and SALT, we were not allowed to build up our nuclear arsenals while awaiting ratification. But we were certainly never required by the Vienna Convention to begin reductions. Similarly, if the Obummer is re-elected, the US will not be allowed to violate the ATT for four more years. However, Federal law enforcement agencies and the Federal Court will not be required to enforce it.

I was staying out of this because the majority felt differently. But this is the way I read the FOPA. The way I read it, the FOPA provides a resident from one state an affirmative defense against prosecution for a firearms violation while traveling through another state. The way I read it, the FOPA does not provide any protection to the traveler in either the originating or the destination states. Therefore, the FOPA would have no applicable provision for a person traveling from NJ to PA because he is subject to the firearms laws of both states while he is in those states. In the example of traveling from NJ thru NY to PA, I can only see the FOPA providing protection in NY. IMHO, the examples cited of NJSP troopers letting people go are just examples of cool LEO who understand us and what we do, and they understand a person able to obtain a CCW permit is not a bad guy. They are using the FOPA as an excuse to let it slide. However, if you happen to win the Trifecta of an anti-gun trooper + an anti-gun persecutor + an anti-gun judge... I fear that you will lose. I am not a lawyer, but I play one on TV.

No limit, but there is no sense applying for more than 6 unless you also apply for an exception to the 1 per 30-day law.

The instruction manuals (yes, those little bookletes that no one ever reads) for just about every semi-auto .22 I have ever seen (Marlin 60, Ruger 10/22, S&W M&P 15/22, Walther P22, et. Al.) all specifically warn the operator NOT to use Stingers. IMHO, CCI Mini-Mags are the tried and true ammo for semi-Auto .22LR.

OK, here is how it works: You fill out the form complete with everything except your signature, the date, and the number of permits one time, listing your two best buds as references. Make bunches of photocopies. Tell your buds when they complete the reference, to fill out with everytihing except for their signature and date. Make bunches of photocopies. Of course, the moment you do this, the NJSP will change the forms.

I do not imagine this business has much of a problem with robbery.

Did not read all the responses, so foregive if this is a repeat. IMHO it depends on who offered. If you are admiring someone's gun and they offer you an opportunity to try it out, then it is a favor and you are not obliged to offer to pay for the ammo, so long as you are reasonable (i.e. shoot 5-to-10 rounds, certainly keep it less than $3 or $4). If someone offers you a chance to shoot their BMG, well maybe keept it to one shot. If you ask someone to try their gun, then you should offer them a fiver for the ammo. Kids, always shoot free. Anyone who charges a kid for ammo should be smacked.

You are all gonna jump on me, but IMHO that shoot turned bad after the second shot. Its wrong to keep shooting someone who is running away from you, on the ground, and especially running out the door. The running out the door shot was also irresponsible because he could have injured someone in the street. If he had learned to shoot and carried a .45 ultralite instead of that pussy 380, it would have been over with 1 shot. But all-in-all. July 13 was a good day for CCW rights in FL.

WTF? Why would you answer the door while pointing your rifle? I don't care if the deputy did not announce his presense as a LEO. Didn't he ever play knock knock as a kid? You fricken ask "who's there" before you answer the door. And the door had a peephole.

I know someone who called yesterday for an appointment for fingerprinting in Cherry Hill. They are so backlogged that the first available appointment is July 30!

IMHO, it is the NJSP that propetuates the disinformation through the FFLs. Unfortunately, many FFLs get their information from the NJSP. And, since they opperate their businesses at the pleasure of the NJSP, they are sort of forced to comply with the directions provided. I have purchased 5 pistols in NJ from 3 different FFL's. Each told me the same thing: (1) Make a photocopy of my permit and keep it in my gun case to show to the police if I am ever stopped. (2) Keep the original in a safe place so I can prove I purchased the handgun legally. I did not know any better, so I believed my first FFL (he's the expert, right?). I tried to engage in a discussion with my second FFL to find out why, what law, who told him, etc., trying to learn if there was something I did not know about. But my FFL was simply a parrot. He had no understanding of the Law and simply recited rules and procedures as told to him. When I received ths SAME advice from my 3rd FFL, I just politely thanked him for his advice, and went on with my life. I quit traveling with copies of my permits 3 years ago. If a LEO ever asks me for a copy of my permit(s), I will politely explain that they are home in my files and I would be happy to show them to him. He and his supervisor can make an appointment to stop by my home most any evening between 6 and 8pm.

I stopped reading not even half way through the first page. Did anyone bother answering the OP's question without judging him, questioning his intelligence, or bickering with another responder? OP, IMHO, you are being over-cautious. But I certainly understand where you are coming from. I do not know the area you are asking about very well, so I cannot answer your questions. However, there are some helpful people in the New Jersey Hometown Forum on AR15.com OK, haters, Bring it on!

The notary ensures the identity of the person signing the form. The alternative to having the references fill out a form is for a LEO to call and interview the references. Not justifying it. Just explaining it.

WOW! Something seems fishy about the April 4-to-June 12 lag. Almost like it sat on someone's desk for 2 months. When you make your next P2PP application, I would politely ask questions about that.

Another Kudo to Lumberton. I have heard tale that some communities will not renew a P2PP after it has expired. Lumberton had no problem renewing mine 4 days after it expired.

Lumberton has been rocking since we got our new Chief. They are now doing an excellent job of turning most things around within 30 days and are no longer outting you to your employer. The lady in charge of our administrative office advised me: 1. Prep your references and remind them to turn around their notarized reference forms ASAP. Delays in receiving references is the primary cause of delayed permits and ID cards. 2. Get your finger prints done and return the receipt ASAP. If it takes you 2 weeks to get your finger prints done, add 2 weeks onto the turn-around time for your permit/ID. Like any government process, nothing moves until all the checkmarks are checked. They do not parallel-process. Your app will sit in the office until they have both your reference forms and your fingerprint receipt.

Kudos to Lumberton. Just got a phone call from the PD. My permit is renewed and available for me to pick up.

Chief was out of the office today. The counter lady took my permit and my note requesting an extension and said she would give it to the Chief tomorrow. They would call me when it was ready. I pointed out that it was expired. She said she did not think it was a problem, but said the Chief is really good about following up with residents and he would most certainly call me if he had any problems. Just waiting to see.

LOL!! I am not even going to touch that one. I foresee this thread now going into the gutter...

Got, got, got, and got. Will give it a try when I clean my guns tonight and test it out next weekend. Thanks Ray Ray!

I bought a Mossberg 500 about 3 years ago to stage in the basement storage room. I was thinking the marinecote made sense so I would not have to worry about corrosion. I immediately had problems with casing sticking to the chamber walls when the barrel heated up after 10 or so rounds. Mossberg and the “experts” on AR15.com said that it is a known issue and it will go away after I break it in. Well, after 3 years and probably 500 rounds, I am still having the problem. I have tried Slick 2000 EWL, carbon molly lube, 4 or 5 different brands of ammo and different loads, and it’s all the same. Someone told me to use fine garnet paper and polish out the chamber. But, I don’t know what that will do to the marinecote and do not want to damage the chamber. Has anyone experience and solved this problem of shell casings ceasing in the chamber? Thanks Don FWIW, the marine cote barrel seems to get much hotter than the barrels on either my other 500 or my 590. I had to install a heat shield for safety reasons.

Yes Sir. That is a 686 Talo edition. It has some kind of Brazilian hardwood grips, 3 inch barrel and 7 round chamber. I had it out today. It sill needs some more breaking in. So far, I have only put a box of .38 and about half a box of .357 thru it. But I am loving it.

The newest member of the family.

Buy online and transfer thru Gerards in downtown Moorestown.