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If you plan on building/assembling your AR from scratch, you do not need to send your parts to anyone. You will need to purchase the lower receiver from, or have a lower receiver shipped through, a licensed FFL. If you feel that you need assistance in the building or assembly of your AR, you can bring it to a shop for that purpose. Do you have the necessary tools to build an AR from scratch? Are you planning on simply joining a pre-assembled upper with a pre-assembeled lower? That operation doesn't require and special tools, or skill for that matter.

I ordered 3 of the 15/30 converted Magpul units from mtnarmory.com. Quick shipping and Mike is a super nice guy. Shipping for 3 mags was $6.

militaryarmschannel.com Tim has great review video's on youtube as well. Just put Military Arms Channel in the search bar.

Saw this on breitbart.com http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/18/Holder-Fight-Guns-Like-Cigarettes

Yeah, I'm going to go with "toy gun" as well. I haven't come across too many handguns with silly grips. Nice Marshall's star though.

Send 'em to me.

Damn it! I hate when that happens. I'd like to blame auto correct, but that'd be a lie. So I'll just blame stupidity instead.

Well, my home range has begun. For the long range built a target stand that has removable panels. You simply lift the top member and then slide the 18"x18"x3/4 boards out. Here is a photo. I built this out of scrap wood, so if it doesn't workout I'm only out about an hour of time. You can also see that I've put a marker in the ground. This is my 100 yard marker, I also have markers at 50 yards and 25 yards. Here is a photo of the sighting table looking down range at the target stand. You'll have to look real hard to see the target stand...it's at the top center of the photo. It's hard to tell from the photo, but the berm that is around the target stand covers all three sides. I'm going to head out to Sarco tomorrow to get myself some 100-yd and 50-yd targets. Lastly, I've started work on my pistol range. All I have so far is an 8' wide target stand that is mounted in front of a berm. The top sits at 45" above the ground. From the top of the upper horizontal to the bottom of the lower horizontal is 24". This will allow me to mount some targets. I'm going to build a few standing target holders from wood and PVC. The above photo was taken from 15 yards. Are most pistol ranges 15 or 25 yards? While I'm Sarco I'll look for targets to mount on the top shelf of the stand. I was thinking of a few of these: I'm going to go to the Split Rock gun show to see if I can find anything cool for the range. I think I'd also like to get a few trees as well. I've got plenty of berm to play with.

This has always been my opinion. All calipers can kill. A well placed shot (or two) is more important then the caliper.

An AR can be built from as low as $600. Of course you could just as easily spend 4X that as well. I went the inexpensive route for my first AR. As I gain experience I will upgrade and/or replace. My guess is I will wind-up owning several.

350 miles is a long way to go...I'm sure shipping can be arranged.

I'm in farm country...there are worse things (like pesticides & fertilizers) too worry about in my water. I don't think the small amount of lead would make a measurable impact on the aquifer. My well is @ 160'.

I may not like it, but I'd sure like to hear it.

I don't watch Top Shot, but I do watch Top Gun. That show is what has me thinking about making a better shooting area. Going to a few shooting competitions is a very good idea. I will put a few of those on my calendar. I do have a small bucket loader, so building up the berms is not an issue. I never even thought of a pit or berm in the middle of the range...I see the possibilities of that set up. Regarding having you all over, I'll let my dirtbike experience take over... I was really into motocross and harescramble riding during my 30's. I built a really nice track on my property for practice. My son and I would ride a few nights a week when I came home from work and we'd ride on Saturdays too. I never heard boo from a neighbor. In time friends of mine and my son's learned that we had a top-notch and well groomed track..and they would drop not-to-subtle hints that they'd like to come ride with us. Well, one friend over became two, which became three...which became people camping out over the weekends riding all weekend long. I loved it. So did the wife and family as it became our social circle. Our neighbors had other thoughts. My closest neighbor is 1,000 feet away, but bikes make noise and dust...and lots of both. One neighbor in particular complained from time to time, and I completely understood. If he asked us to stop for the day, we did. We tried several things to self-limit the noise and dust; like no engine starts before noon and after 6PM, no more then 5 bikes out at a time, and other things...but my neighbor was right, it was too much. It got to the point that I stopped riding on my own track to keep the noise and dust down. After a few years I closed the track. As a result my sons and I stopped riding all together and we sold our bikes (we had 6 dirt bikes between us at one point). So, when my range is up and running I can see have a friend or two over to shoot, but never more then that and not on a regular basis. The good news is I have neighbors that shoot too so the sound of a few people shooting doesn't bother them. The sound of a range for hours on end will just piss them off. There are a few people within ear-shot of me (a mile or more away, up on a ridge) that shoot a lot on some weekends. It has never bothered me, but I do notice it. I've always shot my .22 whenever I wanted...because it doesn't make much noise. My .357 or 20ga. only come out a few times a month. But in a week or two I'll have my .223, and I plan on shooting that sucker. A lot. So as I get to know some of you, you are welcome to shoot...one at a time.

You guys are very funny, but not much help No suggestions for making a range?

I've been shooting on my property since I built my house in 1994. But I've never had much of a "set-up", just a saw horse with targets or soda cans stuck to it that is mounted in front of a 6 foot high x 4 foot deep berm (I actually have a lot of berms on my property from when I had a dirt bike track). This basic shooting area has been my one-size-fits-all shooting area with markings for 10, 25, 50 and 100 yards. Over the last few weeks I've been clearing out some space where the old track was as I am planning on building a few dedicated shooting ranges/areas. Here's what I'm looking to do: Pistol Range: I have an old table top jump that is 80' wide by 12' deep by 8' high. I'd like to use this as a backstop for pistol shooting. I have cleared an area in front of this backstop that measures approximately 40 yds x 40 yds. I was thinking of installing a target stand in front of the dirt mound (made of two or more 4x4x4 for legs with a 1x6 "top" screwed to a horizontal 4x4x8) that I could mount spring-loaded steel targets that fall over when hit as well as a platform for plastic bottles of colored water (or a place to tie balloons). On both sides of this stand I will mount standard (27"w x 72"h) paper target holders. What type of tables should I create for this area, if any? I was thinking of several 3x3 table tops that stand 4 feet off the ground to have a place to load/unload as well as shoot from. I'd like to have this range set-up so movement drills can be conducted. What should I think of installing that might help? I think steel "target trees" would also work well here. Short & Long Ranges: I have a few places where I can have 100-150 yard ranges. One is flat with a 5' high berm at the end and the other has a slope that raises about 8' to 10' over the course of 150 yards. There is a 4' high berm at the high side and a 6' high berm at the low side. I'm thinking of using the flat area as a 50' range for 22LR shooting and the sloped area for a 100 yard range, firing up the slope to have an higher backstop (by keeping the target stand low to the ground). I was thinking of building a shooting table like this for each range: I will modify this simple design to have rifle holders/stands on both the left and right side because I don't like laying rifles flat on a table top as I walk down range. I would also place a rifle rest and assorted bags on these tables. I was thinking of building target stands that are no higher then 1 foot off the ground and two feet tall (3' high overall). I'd like to build target-holders/backstops out of 3/4 ply that are easily replaceable. What I'm thinking of doing is making a wooden frame that has slots in it to accept 3 or 4 2'x2'x3/4" that slide in from the top. When a piece of 3/4 is too shot-up to hold a target, side it up to remove it and slide a new piece in its place. What else should I be thinking of having on these ranges to keep them interesting and challenging? I also have a spots where I can put a 200 yard ranges, but I may hold off on finishing those areas until I get tired of shooting the 100-150 yard range. I'm sure that will take some time. Anyway, if anyone has built such a set up, or has ideas for a setup like this, I'd sure like opinions and suggestions. Thanks.

Saturday the 24th and Sunday the 25th.

That is an outstanding scene.

Jim has a very limited retail shop. However, he has an extensive inventory of guns, rifles and ammo. He can get any and everything and his prices are great. I'm always blown away by his ammo prices. His shop is just a few miles from me, so it really doesn't make sense to buy on-line. Moreover, he's a nice guy to do business with. He always ends a sale with a handshake.

Jim Fllynn (Rt 31 in Glen Gardner) is a big seller on gunbroker.com and has a wide selection of used guns and rifles.

I have some seriously angry ground hogs on my property. I "hope" no never have to fire a weapon in anger. But I would if I had to.

So other then the cool hats, what differences do you see? BTW, I was curious and checked the latest DTI hate thread on m4carbine.net. It seems as though someone placed an order on the 27th of February, only to be told on the 28th that they didn't have any stock. I too placed an order on the 27th. I just checked my order status and the Del-Ton website and it reports that my upper has been completed and is ready to ship. That's a lot faster then I was told by the sales person on the phone before I placed the order. The guys on m4carbine.net can be a little intense. I'm not going to war or defending my country. I'm sure that my Del-Ton upper will kill paper (and ground hogs) as well as any other upper.

I have a Del-Ton upper on order. I should have it in a few weeks. I have no agenda so I'll be happy to provide my opinion of it. I'd also be happy to have an experienced member (that is able to be objective) compare my upper with their favorite. If there are problems, quality or otherwise, lets get 'em out in the open. If it is actual a good valve, let's get that out as well.

I'll be attending the Split Rock show.

Just to be clear, here is what you need to do to disengage the front hubs: - Move the 4WD gear selector from 4H or 4L to 2 - Drive backwards about 1/2 a truck length.