Screwball

Fix it, then...

Roger that, Ray Charles... Still irks me to see just the receiver done. But if your happy, guess that is the important part.

Says the guy that just mentioned a Glock in 7.62mm Tokarev... If you guys go near Black Aces Tactical... see if there is any info on their new autoloader firearms. Heard they are putting one out under $500.

Better suppressor host...

Can just look into the regulations... question N19 gives you some options. For the original topic, here is the online version of that reference guide. https://www.atf.gov/file/11241/download Page 197 and 198 discuss unlicensed persons (people without FFLs). ATF gives a lot of answers for basic questions on transfers and residency. While some points don’t say a pistol transfer must take place within the state if buyer/seller are both residents, most do say to contact State/local officials regarding those laws. -God, I’d give a kidney to get Tapatalk back!

Remington TAC-13... see if they are doing a braced version. To add to the Ruger... yell at them to make a PC in .45.

Actually... you can’t. ATF is very clear on their Form 1 that they will not approve an application that violates state or local law. So, SBRs and silencers are not directly obtainable to NJ residences opposed to those who live in other states with less restrictions. You can apply, but will be denied. NJ, you can possess an 80% lower. The act of finishing it within the state is illegal... unless you have a manufacturers license. Don’t remember if those laws on serial numbers passed... but my post did say if it complied with NJ law. I’ll admit, if you get jammed up, it is more of a legal headache proving that... but to say NJ law stops someone from doing something legal in PA is far from accurate. It is implying worse restrictions on people whose rights all already restricted. Why not say that firearms like the Shockwave/TAC-14 are illegal, as well? Give up more rights, because guns are so frowned upon. But when it comes down to it, if the source of the firearm is being questioned... you are likely past the normal worry of firearms law. I would love to see how L/E is going to have the knowledge that the Colt .25 I picked up in PA is not “registered,” and going to jam me up on it (judging I’m following the law, which I am; technically, it is registered... in my A&D book)... but again, that is the same thought process of saying a retired officer from out of state, who legally purchased his sidearm, is going to be jammed up (judging he follows the law in regards to magazines and other aspects). Remember, being psychic isn’t a requirement for L/E. Minus the business aspect (zoning, town ordinances, etc) and fingerprinting, getting an FFL-03 is similar to getting an FFL-01. ATF comes down and talks to you, and even before that, you send a copy of the application to the Chief LEO of your jurisdiction. It isn’t a secret that I have this license... but just because you or a majority of people don’t have it, doesn’t mean I’m doing illegal or questionable stuff. You can look up the regulations just the same as I have done, considering I don’t plan on breaking the laws. You can contact the ATF regarding it (don’t know if they are affected with the shutdown). If you see a law that I broke in either of those two handgun purchases (both done in PA, with non-NJ sellers; inputted into my A&D book the same day), post it up. I know there aren’t any... but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. In regards to not having an FFL-03... people can do whatever they wish. Never said that anyone had to get it. This thread is about purchasing a pistol outside of NJ legally. An FFL-03 can. You quoted me, leaving out that part, implying I’m doing something wrong. While limited use, that license allows someone to purchase a pistol legally outside of their state of residence... as long as they follow the laws in their jurisdiction. Within NJ, pistol permits are required... and I personally will not go for one, and give one extra penny to this state. If I did buy a pistol off my license within NJ, I’m getting to the point where I might not get it back by the time I leave. Nothing wrong with that, as I’ll purchase firearms that can be legally acquired off my FFL-03, and wait until I’m in Maine to get anything else. NJ law doesn’t directly say I must buy all pistols within state lines. Federally, it is generally a rule of thumb. For non-FFLs, it is said that a pistol from someone out of state... you must receive it at an FFL within your state. The question asked about two NJ residents doing the transfer outside of NJ is interesting... but I personally don’t see it as a logical argument (you both drove out of state, to get around state law). Only way I could see it being used is to get around the transportation laws... and it’s questionable at best. But that is a question for ATF, as it is moving into Federal law. I’ll take a look in the 2014 Regulations book sometime today, but don’t know if it specifically states it must be done in state.

It works out fine, per ATF... The FFL-03 allows me to purchase eligible firearms out of state. If I got it years before, would have been the exact same as now (wish I did, would have been a lot easier). No issue... judging firearms are legal in the state I live in. NJ cannot override Federal law on the other side of the Delaware River... and I would love to see them try and argue that. An M1 Carbine is C&R, but it is also an “assault weapon” in NJ law. Not legal for me to go and buy one in PA, as my license is registered to my home in NJ (also, per ATF). If I get audited, that is going to be an issue. But when I applied for my FFL-03, following state law was a very clearly mentioned on the application as a requirement for a collector, and was right along with not engaging in a business. Buying a pistol legally outside of NJ is no issue. Anyone who lived outside of NJ couldn’t bring their legally purchased handguns into NJ when they moved (judging they comply with NJ laws)? Legally, you can buy a blackpowder revolver out of state... don’t need to get a pistol permit on the way back, but you do have to follow NJ transportation laws. What about building your own firearm (80% lowers)? You build one in PA (legal), judging everything else with the build is covered by NJ law... what are they going to charge you with? Manufacturing of a firearm in NJ... when you didn’t do it within NJ. That last one might be harder to defend/prove... but a receipt would prove the blackpowder revolver was legally acquired. Never heard of anyone being jammed up for an “unregistered” handgun that they bought when they lived out of state... especially considering the NJSP puts out a form to register, stating clearly in the title, “VOLUNTARY Form of Firearms Registration.” https://www.njsp.org/firearms/pdf/sp-650.pdf In regards to being a test case, of what? I have modern pistols on my list of guns I’m going to purchase... and all have a “when out of NJ” next to them. My FFL-03 doesn’t allow me to purchase those, so I will wait until I can legally do it in Maine (not wanting to pay the fees is part... other part is I’m not getting compliant magazines, that won’t have a use by end of August, which is when I’ll be up there). If I go to the Oaks gun show, and see a Colt or S&W M1917, a Makarov (East German or Russian are C&R), a CZ-52, or an older J-frame/Colt Cobra... at a decent price... I’ll buy it. I’ll post it up on here, and people can link the NJSP to it, if they want. They can have the ATF inspect my book/firearms, as everything is done legally. None of those guns break NJ law, and the process of an FFL-03 purchasing them out of state is Federally legal, as well. If I was buying handguns, and selling them to NJ residents without pistol permits/NICS (if I sold to another FFL-03, would still need to fill out a pistol permit), then yes... that is a hazardous situation that would likely wind me up in the clinker. But considering the pistol permits state that they are only for use within NJ (more for non-FFLs/unlicensed persons from NJ trying to purchase a handgun at a PA FFL, which is illegal Federally), those who can legally purchase outside of NJ don’t need to use them. Is that a large number of people? Not at all... but I will use it to build up my collection in the limited time I’m still here.

I don’t disagree... but as it sits, disagreeing with the law doesn’t change it. You can say the sky is green all day, doesn’t mean it is. I’m going to be working a border where Maine is ok with it, and Canada is ok with it (signed that two days after I took the offer). Went up there two weeks back, and both sides have signs saying you are not allowed to bring it across. While both sides are ok with it, crossing an international border isn’t ok. You get caught with it, it is contraband... whether Canada or Maine says it isn’t or is. NJ can say it is legal, doesn’t change the question on the 4473, which was edited to make it that much more clear. I’ve never tried weed, don’t do drugs (was prescribed Vicodin for wisdom teeth removal; took one because the doctor said to... and laughing/drooling at the dinner table was enough for me), rarely drink, and don’t smoke... if others want to do that, their decision. But as it sits, smoking weed is a disqualifier for buying a firearm. So is lying on a Federal form (4473), and state forms (firearm applications). Only way that is changing is if Congress changes its status... because Murphy can only really change state law. If people really want to smoke weed, that is the avenue they need to go down to not have their gun rights restricted. Is it important to most potheads? Probably not. Personally, couldn’t give a s*** either way.

That may be true, and not really an argument I’d want to go into (no dog in that fight). Whatever it is, still considered a Schedule I narcotic... That is where you either need to change that classification or the 4473. Better chance of the former, because your “real” drugs are on the same question.

I’ve been buying handguns out of state on my FFL-03. That is completely legal, without a pistol permit... but if I buy from an NJ resident/dealer inside NJ, I have to do it on a pistol permit. I have my .25 Colt and now a Oswald type S&W Victory revolver that are in my A&D book, without getting pistol permits. I openly say that is because screw NJ, which really isn’t illegal. I will literally drive out of NJ to keep this state from getting a dime for a pistol permit and/or NICS. As long as I am following Federal law, I can do that... still with the middle finger directed to NJ. Problem with that is going to be just driving out of the state to not do the NICS. Can cut it whatever way you want, but that is pretty clear. I don’t know how it works in regards to state or federal law with two people (residents) conducting a transaction outside of the state. If law states how carl_g mentioned, then you can’t buy a pistol outside of your state... unless you are an FFL.

No pictures?

Take a look at the Oaks show... I’ve been seeing a decent amount of lever actions the past few times I went. Personally, I’d opt for an older gun without extra safeties. My Glenfield 30 was made in 1970... pretty much a Marlin 336. My dad gave it to me as a birthday present... so a gun that won’t be going anywhere. I was thinking about selling my Ruger 44 Carbine (older tube fed), but can’t really justify selling it.

It could be... Denmark did return their Garands, and some were distributed by the CMP. Some were also brought in as parts kits, and people built them (Century included). Garands with VAR barrels sometimes have PB parts on them (mine came with Springfield and PB parts). Denmark and Italy received majority of the Garands out of NATO, post WWII. The Danes also bought rifles from Italy, since they got the machinery from Winchester. Interesting aspect of Garand collecting.

Mine or yours? Mine is not, it was a Century build on a Lithgow receiver. Bought it for the barrel (pretty much brand new), and if it didn’t work out, was going to have it and the parts put on a stripped receiver. Shuff looked it over, and said it was good... so had him redo it. If talking about yours, is it a CMP rifle? People do look for these barrels, so can’t say it came with the gun or someone had it installed after being sold. The VAR barrels are very accurate. Danes really did a good job with them.

Does it match the picture I posted? If not, then I got nothing...

“Bans bump-fire stocks and other devices that allow semi-automatic weapons to fire at fully automatic rates.“ Well, wouldn’t that set you up to ban lightened triggers... and then ban semi-autos, as you can shoot them at full-auto rates?

We aren’t members of Marlin Owners...

You hosting it off your computer? Or did you use the link next to the paper clip below the text box? Here are the markings on my Danish VAR barrel...

I’m more of a Golden’s Rod and desiccants kind of guy... when house air gets dryer (winter), I pull the desiccants out. Most safes have a bottom area that fits a Golden Rod. They are glass inside, so that is your main downside. Personally, I’d trust one of them over the dehumidifier you mention. I store ammo in Cabela’s bins, and put a small desiccant pack in each.

Personally, I’m not a fan of .22 conversions. Had a Ciener kit for my Beretta, and while it was nice and accurate, it ties up the frame. Sort of like the AR upper argument... as you can’t shoot both. .22s, I view more as gun you hand to a new shooter at the range. For that reason, I sold my Ciener kit years back and got a Ruger Mark III (which would fit somewhat what you are looking for). Think I only had to add another $40-$60 from what I got for the conversion, and complete .22 pistol. If a conversion is a must, I really recommend the CZ Kadet kit. 1911 kits, very mixed bag... but I’d preferably want one that didn’t use a complete slide. Hear too many horror stories about SIG kits, so I’d definitely not go that route. I just started squaring my Ruger away, as I want a pest control pistol for Maine. If you can figure out how to take a Mark III down, you can save some money if you go that route (just look over a used gun, since it is a saturated aftermarket; sometimes, you get shotty home “gunsmiths”). It really isn’t as hard as people make it out to be, if you do it more than twice. If you just want simplicity, Mark IV. In regards to ammo, if you find a gun that won’t run CCI MiniMags... ditch it as soon as possible (or send it to the factory). Bulk is where picky starts showing it’s face.

Eventually, I want to pick up an older High Standard. It isn’t something that will be an NJ purchase, but they are decent pistols. I might swap that for another C&R gun... but will depend on what I find when I start looking/have money. Funny to see this thread... as I actually just found my Mark III Target in the back of the safe last night. I always forgot about that damn pistol... but actually going to start shooting it more. I do own a NAA Sidewinder Convertible... more of a s***s and giggles gun. I likely will get a Ranger II, again... s***s and giggles. Getting it out of the way, I’m only a fan of one conversion; CZ Kadet. Just a very well rounded kit, and is both reliable and accurate. I hear mixed things with Glock kits, Ciener was ok with my Beretta (didn’t like the D slide, sold it for what I paid), and SIG is a walk away. 1911 ones... depends on which (ones that mimic the Kadet, I’ve heard better reports than stuff like Kimber). The Kadet kit is definitely a worthwhile purchase if you own a CZ that takes it. For the Ruger, it isn’t too hard to take apart... if you do it once or twice. I’ve had that gun sitting in that safe for about six years, and taking it apart last night wasn’t extremely difficult. Had to get the hammer strut situated, and all good. Supposedly easier if you pull out the magazine disconnect, which I’m 50/50 on doing. LCI... that is gone (cut my finger on it last night). Volquartsen extractor and firing pin are likely upgrades. Probably their mainspring housing, to get rid of that damn lock (and keys sitting in the box). Trigger... I’m sort of going to say screw it and leave stock. I did that with my 10/22, and while it was awesome... I don’t think it was worth it. I will probably get a Ruger stainless trigger (has an overtravel stop), only because I like the look of full stainless. Personally, I really don’t care about the Mark IV changes. Definitely not enough to switch pistols. The Mark III is good, even if you need to do a little work. Prices should be lower... but like the 10/22 and other guns with huge aftermarket, look out for shotty work. I’m not too knowledgeable on the Victory, but not too big of a modern S&W fan. Buckmark... another pistol with a following. But like the S&W, not that much knowledge of them.

Nope, Long Hunter Shooter Supply. Ruger is ok in my book, but not willing to give them gunsmith work. If they can’t do a conversion cylinder for a gun that is available in both .45 ACP and .45 Colt, screw them.

My New Vaquero convertible is good to go. Only issue... I can’t do polished. Don’t keep up on it enough to look good. And if you don’t do that, looks like ass. Bead blasted it, and a lot more user friendly. Plus, I like the look.

I’m not a fan of auctions... similar to raffles. I did put a few dollars on two guns on MeWe... but it isn’t a common thing. Personally, I just rather buy something than considering luck or outbidding to acquire it.