Kingsoverqueens

I'm 47 with a plan to retire early 60's. I'm looking into getting out of here. Wife wants no part of relocating. Who I need to work on are the kids. If they leave, she'll follow. Otherwise I fear I'm stuck.

How about part D in the law you noted above..the one about the legally established firing range. A friend of mine just put on in his house in Middletown, which I'm pretty sure (not 100%) has a no discharge law. There is no code that says he can't put one in his basement, so he did. Now he has to follow noise ordinances, but otherwise he's good to go. He vented his with a blower from a furnace. 22's weren't a problem but anything centerfire created too much smoke so he upped his ventilation.

Not likely. Team has a double header.

Have you met Lou?

First we drink, then we fight.

You're funny looking and those pants make you look fat. < neener neener >

As many have said, both are good. Both have their advantages, and disadvantages. I think the best advice that's been given is to try them. If your experience is anything like mine you'll know right away which gun fits your hand best. As it turns out, for me, that gun is the PX4. I flat out love that gun. I also have a 92FS and an M&P pro 9. The PX4 is the gun I most like to shoot. That said, my next gun will be a G17 and I can't really say why. lol It feels like a 2x4 in my hand and for me, points like shit. But I still want one. They are like the black cocktail dress of guns. Only uglier.

Easy enough to verify by looking at the financial statement. Right?

Yes, very high brow, are we. lol

Isn't that what the internet is for? : )

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As I understand Tom the membership voted to have the rules amended, or actually, to have them amended to include this steel match. The president hasn't gotten around to do it. As it stands a person can shoot pistol grade rifles in the pits during sanctioned matches but those are limited to cowboy action and the like, or while practicing for those events provided they have a special use badge. I have a special use badge. IF I were to have a pistol grade rifle I could practice on my own in the pits, but the way the rules are currently worded, I can only practice for cowboy action (or similar). So, it seems that one would need a cowboy hat and chaps and be shooting a Rossi lever gun and tombstone silhouette to be kosher. Put on a pair of cargo pants and a camo shirt while banging away on a steel plate with a CX4 and you risk losing your membership.

That's pretty much how I view it. We get the BOD we deserve. I really can't and won't complain because I've personally done nothing to change it. Sure, I help during matches, but other than my initial member meeting I've not been back. I must say that if the BOD did in fact try to "trick" or otherwise entrap a member as George alleges, that would really suck. I don't understand why the BOD has such an issue with pistol grade rifles.

How do you feel about the M&P 22? I actually like shooting mine more than it's 9mm big brother. : ) I also have the 22 kit for my Beretta, but I do like the feel of the M&P.

George is ONE of the match directors and that is good enough for me. Talk about no good deed going unpunished. The guy was instrumental in getting this match established and run for the members and now his credibility is being challenged. BS. George, let us know what we can do.

Same with me. Beretta 92FS, Beretta PX4 and M&P Pro 9. But mine have ample holster rash and other battle scars. My son also shoots his Henry Lever Gun during static steel matches. That's a lot of fun for him, but also for the older fuds who are reminded of the days of yore when they got their first 22.

No, just the "special" side.

Ouch. lol I miss you guys. : (

All of the above.

I started here, asked a few quetions, got a few answers. Parlayed that into some additional internet research including watching some Youtube video's to further expand what was a very basic understanding. Then I met with 2 of my friends who had different machines so that I could run through the process and get a feel for each machine and their various options as well as organizing the work place space. Once I had made a decision on the machine and placed the order I brought some supplies I had purchased over to another friends house and he supervised me pressing out 500 or so rounds on his machine. I did a small amount first, then chrono'd them with his machine (I still have your chrono Harry...hope all is well!) and then went back and banged out the balance. By the time those were fired my machine came in and I set it up and got to pressing. It really isn't necessarily that "Hard" to do, but you do need to be fairly methodical in measuring and testing.

^ shameless. lol Welcome to club Noobs. Enjoy.

Had mine done in 07 or 08...I forget. Was mobile a day or so after surgery and then doing rehab by the next week. Took a LONG time before I could put any direct pressure on it, like kneeling down on it, but otherwise it wasn't bad. I would need to ice it frequently for months after surgery and rubbing the incision spots helped break up the scar tissue.

Hey...I like Old Fudd wood. Wait, that didn't come out right...

Laziness. Can be a pita to pick them up but given that I don't like having a broken gun we are going to start using them if we do dry fire sessions. We still drop the hammer on empty chamber similar to what is required at USPSA or Steel to clear our guns before holstering when we are practing at the range but at home we'll start using them again.

I find my self in the same or similar situation as Joe. I'd like nice O/U to shoot trap and possibly pheasant hunt, but don't really want to spend $1,500 to $2,500 on a Beretta or Browning. Does anyone have an opinion on the ATI shotgun? My fun store guy has them for $599 and they point nice, have nice wood and metal detail.