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Hi. New to shooting, recently purchased a PPQ. Being new, I haven't formed any bad habits (yet), so I'm trying to avoid them. Any habits that you have that you wish you didn't? Or that you had to unlearn? Things like having to unlearn shooting with one eye closed or improper grip/stance etc. I know all these things are subjective, but curious on personal experience. Thanks.

Went to bullet hole last week. Was very pleased. Place is a not exactly nice and crappy compared to RTSP, but I went there to shoot. People were friendly enough and didn't bother me or my friend at all. I'll probably be going here regularly and join Cherry Ridge once it gets warmer. Thanks for the help.

Good to know Thanks. Thanks Chris. I took the NRA course a few years ago and have Basic Pistol certification. I planned on getting a gun back then, but never happened. didn't shoot in a few years. Then Went to RTSP a few times to rent some guns and decided to get one and here I am. I'm comfortable with my knowledge in terms of safety and I'm confident handling guns. Just need to practice at this point

All of the mentioned are roughly equidistant from me...30 mins. I'm not one of those guys thst drives 10 miles to go to a gas station that's $0.05 cheaper. Lol I bought about 13 boxes at $10 each, shipped. 10 boxes federal champion and 3 blazer brass. . As far as I could tell that's decent prices for decent ammo. Im definitely going to check them out. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. Your math is spot on. I should have prefaced by saying I'll probably go 3 times a month as I get used to my gun. After that, I'll probably go less (although a good chance I may get hooked ) Either way, BH I get the feedback that it's not welcoming, particularly to rookies like me. Im not an idiot and use common sense and do my research, and i Dont need a red carpet, but don't want to get "scolded" or embarrassed when it's already a new scenario for me. For whatever reason, it's a little awkward for me to show up brand new to this around ppl that have been doing it their whole lives. Also 10 am is pretty late for me, but my expectations of a perfect range arent realistic so gotta sacrifice something. I will definitely go and check out BH, and may use it for a while and see how it goes. I see this going one of 3 ways. Stick with BH, get a RTSP membership, or pay daily range rates till weather breaks and join cherry ridge. Thanks all

I figure if going 3 times a month, $20-$25 adds up quick. I know bullet hole does half hours, so $10 a visit isn't bad. Wasn't sure if any other ranges in the area also offer it. Cherry ridge looks awesome, just not sure I'd be able to learn/practice in the winter. I may just pay for a few trips at one of the ranges mentioned above and join cherry ridge when the weather breaks. Thanks.

Thanks Nick. I don't need membership, but rtsp is $20 an hour (and doesn't do 1/2 hr) and gun for hire is $25. Pretty steep considering how often I wanna go and the fact I just want to shoot about 1/2 hr per session. Last resort I may just get a membership at rtsp, but $350 doesn't come easy.

Hi. I'm new to shooting and just purchased my first gun, Walther PPQ. I plan on going relatively often to the range, 2-3 times a month. I don't plan on spending a full hour there per session, so wondering if there are any cheap ranges that are beginner friendly in the area. bullet hole is an option, though I keep reading they're not very friendly. Considering RTSP, but finding it hard to shell out $350 for membership. I did have good experiences there and they're very beginner friendly. also 7 am range time for members is awesome. Any suggestions? Just need a simple/cheap pistol range, that's beginner friendly. Not opposed to membership vs hourly, but trying to save, if possible (guns aren't cheap). The earlier the opening times the better. Thanks.

Do you have any idea where the appeal would take place? if it were to happen within my city, then I'm pretty certain the captain would easily persuade the judge to not rule in my favor since it's such a small town. Also, I know expungement is better, but I don't feel like spending the money on getting it expunged. I don't see how the arrest would interfere with much more in my life than this situation, and I read somewhere that it's removed from records or something after 5 years. I would have to research that a little bit more, but it's already been 3 years so I might as well wait. And if it went to the appeal court, what reason could the judge have to not give it to me? I understand the city has leeway in making a decision, but I thought that state would basically give it to me as long as I didn't break any of those rules.

So after taking months to receive the proper documentation, I handed it in a few months ago. The clerk seemed to have misplaced, not a big deal, but lost a few months. I went back today and gave her a new copy. The Sergeant said everything appears to be in order, but the Captain insists I get it expunged. He said to go apply at the state level. I was wondering: Should I apply in Trenton, or should I have him deny me the FID and then appeal? I'd like to avoid having on record that I was denied if in any way possible.

I'm still waiting on the letter from Miami. Been almost 2 weeks and I'm getting impatient. Thanks. Yea, it was an accident like I said. I didn't realize that it said conviction. Yea, I realized that later. I'm not too worried because I'm very confident that even if I was denied, then during my appeal the judge would grant me the permit. I sent you a PM

So just an update. I received a call from the clerk requesting a certified letter from Miami showing the outcome of the case. I mailed my request to Miami PD over the weekend and I'm awaiting the letter. I would assume that once I provide the letter and they see there was no conviction, that they will proceed with the process and issue me my permit. Hopefully that's what's going to happen.

So it terms out I'm a fool. I spoke via email with someone form NJ2AS and he brought it to my attention that the FID application form asks if you've ever been CONVICTED of a crime. I was not convicted so I had no reason to mention it on the form. I'm going to go to the local PD tomorrow and explain myself, and hope that they let me resubmit the application. Either way, I would imagine that they would realize I wasn't convicted and still grant me the permit. Even if they do deny me, I don't see how a judge couldn't grant me the permit during an appeal. Good news for me, although it was really stupid of me to mention it at all. I got fingerprinted today, so the ball should be rolling soon.

I'm not sure what a Dr.'s letter would say. How can a Dr prove I'm not an alcoholic? Like someone else said, it seems as though they have to prove that I'm an alchy, not that I have to prove I'm not. Good point. THough I'm not positive he even knows the law because it SEEMED like he thought I would get denied just because of a misdemeanor.

Yea, I can get a little attitude if I feel wronged/disrepected, but I never get smart with cops (or Professors) because I feel like if things get nasty they will always "be right." What appointment are you talking about? I already submitted my application and I thought that once they receive my prints, then it's just a waiting game. I was thinking about going out of my way to politely remind them of the law

I decided to just do it. I set my fingerprinting appnt for Thursday. I'm still debating about whether or not I should contact el Capitan beforehand though. I don't wanna piss him off, but I fell like I'm gonna get rejected so it's worth a shot. At the same time, it's such a small town that I wouldn't want the police Captain to have a grudge against me. Not that I believe he would do anything wrong, but still.

Not sure about NJ law, but there was a Netflix documentary I watched a few years back that REALLY got on my nerves. It was about people were wrongfully convicted of murder and were on death row for 20+ years. When they were finally exonerated, they were released with basically no compensation. They received no assistance in finding a job since most had no work experience. The worst part is that the government acknowledged they were wrongfully convicted, but it was still on their record. These people had to hire an attorney and pay $1000 to get their records expunged, even though they did nothing wrong. Obviously this is a different scenario, but you get the idea. Just because you innocent, doesn't mean it's not on your record.

Not even an option. I would like to have an FID, but it's not that important that I'm gonna move then move again. I'm not even willing to fly to FL to expunge this junk, so obviously I'm not gonna move back and forth. I'm not sure it works like that. Even if a case is dropped, it's still there on the record. As for whether I have a right, I do, but they don't have to approve it. Even though technically they should. Thanks for the help everyone Do you think it would be a good idea to speak/write to the captain specifically showing him the statue that says that only a Domestic Violence Misdemeanor disqualifies you?

Thanks for all the info, help, and suggestions The reason I need one is because I would have to appear in court (I believe) and I would have to fly down. An attorney would be able to handle it for me Thanks for the info. But how would a Dr. prove i'm not an alchy? I wasn't convicted. The charges were dropped. I definitely want to get it expunged, but I don't think it's possible to do it without actually appearing in court, which would require me to fly down. I may not NEED to have an attorney to appeal, but I would much rather have one. What do you guys think about just mailing him the statue and explaining that technically my misdemeanor is not grounds for denial. HE told me to expunge it so I don't have a problem, so I would HOPE that he wouldn't hold it against me once I had it done. But it seemed to me like he didn't know that a misdemeanor does not automatically mean you are rejected. Now if it's brought to his attention, I feel he may take it nicely, or (more likely) take it as an insult that I'm telling him that I know the law better than him and deny me out of spite. I wouldn't mind meeting with him in person and showing him the law either. If not I think I'm just gonna have to let it go for now. Once I get a decent job and have the money, I"ll have my record expunged and then reapply I guess. Is it bad to get rejected a first time? Also, I already submitted the application, but did not get my fingerprints done yet. If i Don't submit my prints, then when I apply next time, do I have to say I already applied once before?

I hear what you're saying, and I agree, the expungement is far more important than a gun, but I wouldn't be purchasing an expensive firearm. Probably $300 ish plus a case and ammo. Either way, I don't think there's anything fishy going on in terms of the it being on my record. I was arrested, and though the case was dropped (nolle Prosequi), it still stays on my record until I have it expunged. I wish it happened in NJ so I could take care of it, but I have to hire an attorney to handle it. On top of that it takes about 6 months.

Thanks for the info. But I wouldn't have money to hire an attorney for the appeal, and if I did, I'd rather have my record expunged so I wouldn't have any of these problems. Since it seems like I would be denied anyway, I think I'm just gonna hold off on the whole process for a few years till I have this sucker expunged.

Hi, I'm new to these forums and I just went to put in my FID application today at the local PD (very small town). The clerk asked me to speak with the Captain and he said that due to my Public Intoxication arrest in Florida, I would be denied an FID/P2P. From my understanding, a misdemeanor should not prevent me from getting an FID unless it were for a Domestic Violence Case. I was arrested and stayed in the jail for about 12 hours. I had an attorney handle the case and it was dropped, but I believe it's still on my record. He told me I could still put in the application, and I did, but he told me it would be denied. I asked him if the decision is made at my local PD or at the state level, and he responded at the local. I wouldn't be worried if it were at the state level, but if it's local and he had already told me that I would be denied, I feel I have reason to be worried now. I plan on getting my record expunged, but I don't live in FL so I can't go to court to handle it. I also don't have the $1000+ to have an attorney take care of it for me. Should I just forget about trying to get an FID, or should I get the $60 fingerprints and hope for the best? Am I wrong in believing that my misdemeanor should not prevent me from acquiring my FID? Also, if anyone can direct me towards the exact statute that would apply to my case, I would appreciate it. Thanks.