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Speaking of bullseye, I think I may want to try my hand at it with revolvers only. .22LR - SP101 4" Centerfire - GP100 4" .45ACP- S&W 625JM 4" Of course that's at least 2 more wheelguns that I need to buy. :-)

My first and still favorite gun.

Like double. Also, Izhevsk not Tula! :pogranichnik:

Anyone know of any legal restrictions on applying for P2Ps while waiting for P2Ps that are still "in process"?

I lived in Passaic Co a few years ago. My address change last year took from late August to mid February. I put in for permits in June. Everything was ready to go in about 30 days, except for Passaic Co mental health. Still waiting...

Or NJ politicains. I mean seriously. We accept and even celebrate minor encroachments as if they were victories, fight tooth and nail just to avoid super ridiculous stripping of our rights (like the Sweeney bill) and really were only able to forestall that because of 1 person (CC). We're starting to look like California, where last week gun owners were positively giddy about some insanely bad bills getting vetoed. That's like popping champagne when your rapist's HIV test comes back negative. How can anyone really believe that, in this environment, we'll ever make any actual gains? Begging to keep the f*cked up status quo or even just a little bit worse, is bullsh*t.

Having read that opinion, the oral argument from Sept., the 2md circuit opinion certifying the question to the NY State Court, it seems that this decsion ONLY addresses the definition of "residency" under Penal Law § 400.00(a)(3). Specifically, does the language "in the city or county, as the case may be, where the applicant resides," require that one also have one's main domicile there or does something like a vacation home suffice. Both the appellant (ccw applicant) and the State of NY agreed that it does NOT mean domicile. The State conceded this in order to avoid/bypass the constitutional issue that would be raised. The rest of P.L. § 400.00(a)(3) was not challenged and still requires some substantial contact within the city/county where one would apply, such as residency or "is principally employed or has his principal place of business as merchant or storekeeper" therein. In other words, no non-resident permits unless you can show some connection to the city or county where you'd be applying.

Frog. Lube.

Looking like I won't make it. Not happy

I saw it right away. I guess you gotta be one of us old school guys to spot it

As soon as you're outside of "directly to/from" and not making a reasonably necessary deviation under the circumstances, you're guilty of unlawful possession. Is stopping for gas a deviation which is reasonably necessary under the circumstances? Only the gun hating jury of your "peers" and the sentencing judge know.

Sorry, just a couple more questions (I'm in no matter what, but just want to know what to expect) I've not shot any kind of match before, so this will be my first. What are the targets like? 6" round plates? Torso size rectangle? Something else? Also, "at least 10yds" meaning up to 15 or 20yds or are we shooting out to 25yds+? And is it 5 shot strings x5? I'll try to pick up a couple more speed loaders if I can find them local.

Just saw this: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/61931-1-for-bullseye/#entry791308 SR9 local, 17 round mags pinned

Also, do you know offhand what distance the targets are set at?

Think 2 speed loaders will cut it? I'd be shooting a GP100

Article says 5 years/no parole, which probably means 85%. Still not long enough, though. As for recidivism, why wouldn't they? I really like when I see I guy with 4 indictables in 3 years: 1st offense- probation (or even PTI). 2nd- longer probation. 3rd- 180 days plus probation. Though in NJ, the standard is to serve a third of your sentence, so really 60, minus time served = just probation. 4th- maybe some actual jail/prison time. Unless he claims he's a junkie. Then it's off to drug court (i.e. probation).

Lol

Add to that: the only way this even becomes an issue for the parties involved is if the transferee has contact with law enforcement on his way to/from the range, that contract escalates to the point that they're searching the car and, having become aware of the gun, start to question his ownership of same. At that point, do you really want to be relying on "the statute is kinda vague"?

I would argue that the family member taking the gun to the range is not a transfer, and thus, does not fall under the transfer rules and laws; section E in the exemption clearly reads any firearm. Thoughts??" You'd be wrong. Anyone other than the owner taking possession of the firearm is a transfer. There's no "family" member exception.

Very true. Here's my situation: I lived in 3 counties in the past 10 years. One of them is Passaic Co., where the turn around on the mental health check is 4-5 months (this has been verified by others). Last time I put in for P2Ps, I followed up after about 6 weeks and the (awesome) woman who handles the process said "everything has been good to go for a while... expect Passaic Co." Essex Co. has had some serious issues too (Sandy related). So yeah, 30 days in doable. Unless there's a snag in the process. That said, there are some PDs (including, it would seem, some NJSP barracks) that simply sit on your application because they just don't get a ****.

Precision Firearms in Edison is pretty close and seems to do good work: http://coatyourgun.com/cerakote.html Haven't used him, but other forum members have: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/49504-my-remington-700-milspec-5r-project/?hl=%2Bprecision+%2Bfirearms+%2Bedison

Great email

Somewhere I my wishlist is a Savage 42 O/U .22/410 combo http://www.gunblast.com/Savage-42.htm

Thanks for that, i should have looked closer.And another reason to support local (non gouging) shops