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My local PD does the same (letter to my job, even if it's only been a couple of months since my last permits). Last time they also made a photocopy of my work ID. I explained that despite the word officer in my job title and the cracker jack box tin in my wallet, we are *not* LE, but she claimed she had to do it anyway. That being my third time taking off from work just to submit my app for P2Ps, I dropped it. Especially since there's nothing on that id that they don't already have/know.

Your boss said that he would say something negative on the reference? Or just not return it?

Re: the Blackhawk. What specifically don't you like? I've never shot one, but was thinking of getting one in .41 mag for handgun hunting (in America of course, not NJ). Any info would be appreciated.

No, my fave is my GP100, but that P95 is awesome. The point I was trying to make is that I'm lucky in that even my least favorite is a winner. Re cleaning: Field strip is super easy. I just took down the slide (safety, firing pin) a couple of days ago and that was also really easy. Plenty of YouTube videos to walk you through it. Magazines also break down easily.

Least favorite: This is really an embarrassment of riches situation- Ruger P95, 9mm. It's really accurate, super reliable, fits great in my hand and recoils like a .22 But it's kind of boring both in looks and fun factor at the range, especially compared to the wheel guns.

+1. Makes the other ranges I go to look like something out of the 1960s Same.

Re jack3d: http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/11/17707934-deadly-workout-supplement-jack3d-outside-fdas-reach?lite http://m.guardiannews.com/lifeandstyle/2013/feb/01/experiment-jack3d-laser-focus-lockjaw

Yeah, I was being sarcastic. I don't drink or get high, but it's pretty obvious that alcohol is a bigger problem in terms of health, crime and general danger to the public.

I'd happily forgo the thanks for that kind of turnaround Yup. It's one of the last ones left.

Whoa. whoa, whoa. Are you saying that alcohol is worse than marijuana? Developing Brains: Alcohol Worse than Marijuana

The App Place :: ACLU of New Jersey I have this on my phone. I haven't used it yet. And, call me naively optimistic, I don't think I'll need to. Most* interactions w/ police go how YOU decide they're going to go. Don't do stupid things, and you'll avoid even having to talk to a cop. If you are stopped, act like a normal person and you'll avoid a lot probing questions. *there are exceptions where no matter what you're getting f*cked with. Which is why I both have the app and a good criminal attorney from each area I frequent on speed dial.

So I went back yesterday, brought two buddies, signed up and spent an hour. Nice range, great staff all around good time.

Well, by working with me, I mean that they were willing to hold on to the gun until my PD deems me safe to have more permits. If you mean dropping the price, I didn't ask and the price was already pretty good. $475 out the door. haha

As for the OS fans: If you love the place, great. Maybe the rest of us have all coincidentally had "rare" bad experiences. But that's been our experience, nonetheless. And it's not just the $. I shop frequently at Effinger, despite the higher prices, because I'm a big fan of supporting local gun shops. I would also, gladly, pay $50-$100 more to buy something from a guy like Rick at OMG. He's never been anything other than knowledgeable, professional, helpful and an all around nice guy. An LGS like that, I'm more than happy to support.

I was in there yesterday looking at this shotgun: http://grabagun.com/remington-arms-co-guns-81209-870-tact-magpul.html Online, after transfer fees, would run me $726. At Ottomanelli's, $871. Though for that extra $145, I get to support a local business where the kids behind the counter act like I'm wrong for interrupting their youtube video watching. (At least it was a hickok45 vid). If your online buying = gunbroker, you're doing it wrong. I do. Big time. Where I work, my "customers" are the dregs of society: druggies, thieves, burglars, murderers, gang bangers, assorted thugs, etc. And unless I get sh!t from them first, I always treat them with at least a modicum of respect*. I expect at least that much from some guy who's paycheck might be coming out of my pocket. *Pedos excluded.

Not just ergos, he said he can't shoot well with it, which is really a bottom line issue. ^Yup ^yup x2

You don't need FOPA to transport your guns (unloaded/trunk/etc) from your home to a range in PA (which is where you're headed, right? ). You're legal under NJ law.

I stopped in today with a friend who was looking for a specific Sig when I spotted one of my wish list guns (Ruger SP101 2.25" DAO) for less than I've seen it anywhere else (online included). Permits are still "in process", so I asked if I could give them a deposit until the P2Ps come in. They said "Sure, no prob." Not only that, but the deposit was less than 50%, 90 days to pay it off and if the permits still aren't in, they'll hold it for as long as it takes. Good service, great price and willing to work w/ the customer. All around great experience.

http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2012/02/shots-fired-skokie-illinois-08-25-2008.aspx "There were 17 total hits on his body including three fatal shots to his head, a couple to his torso, and one to his abdomen," Gramins says. "Which means that even though Maddox was mortally wounded before the head shots, he was still able to engage me. "People don't die the way we think they do," Gramins says. "I had 17 rounds in the guy. That will teach you how critical shot placement is." Gramins' inability to successfully place rounds in the early part of the engagement is readily understandable given both the spontaneous nature of the attack and the confined environment he'd found himself in. Still, he'd made the most out of suppressive fire. That's 17 hits of .45 ACP.

Indeed. But without any real usefulness to the take-down feature, no justification for the extra $100 (better spent on 5 rounds of .22lr at current cheaper than dirt prices) yup

Heres what that means: Possession of Schedule I or II drugs is a felony in Virginia, punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a maximum $2,500 fine. If convicted of possession of Schedule I or II drugs while also in possession of a firearm, Kokesh would face an additional minimum of two years in prison.

Mushrooms are a Schedule I substance (ie worse than cocaine and heroin).

Here's what I don't get (ready your tinfoil headgear): If Kokesh knew that law enforcement was investigating the shotgun video and there was even the slightest possibility of his home being searched, why on earth would he keep illegal drugs there? I'm not saying the mushrooms were planted (no pun intended), but at the very least, it seems likely that they belonged to someone else in the house. Even Kokesh is not that dumb.

Got it. Was really just looking for an excuse for spending the extra $ on a take-down type .22 rifle. Guess not...