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idk there is quite a few places in NY that give carry permits, wouldnt it be more beneficial to him to change that first than to attack PA

i wonder why kane is trying to get non res permits not recognized in PA, it serves no true purpose, we can still vehicle carry with our Utah permits and then OC when out of the car maybe its just to keep people from carrying in Philly though we can still vehicle carry in Philly

that when agreed to would permit RESIDENTS of Pa. and Utah to have their permits recognized in each other's states. im guessing you're referring to this part of the text

right now i believe its just some bark from the republicans and that's all, hopefully im wrong

if it does ill be the first to move to the boarder of PA and ill happily drive the 75 miles to work one way over the current 45, i might have to sell my truck though and buy a Toyota, then i get to hear NJ complain about how my car is too fuel efficient and i dont pay my fair share in gas tax lol

not necessarily, they can attach it to lets say a budget bill Obama wants to sign, then hes forced to sign both of them thats the way we got carry legalized in national parks, some republican attached that bill to Obamas credit bill so he was forced to either sign both or sign none, he of course chose both as he always will especially if money is involved

"Some have also been told that a reciprocity agreement with Utah is in the works but none have a copy of any such preliminary agreement or knowledge of when it might be signed. Clearly, if any new reciprocity agreement is drafted, it is sure to include restrictions on recognition of non-resident permit holders, similar to that found in the modified Florida, Virginia and Arizona reciprocity agreements." looks like we're going to get screwed either way guys, the only hope we have now is praying republicans take control of the senate come November and pass a national reciprocity bill http://blog.princelaw.com/2014/05/12/attorney-general-kane-invalidates-utah-firearm-reciprocity/

reading it again you're right, i wonder if that will work it doesn't say it has to be a valid carry permit not that it matters too much, i still have 3 useless permits i can use for vehicle carry lol

basically guys if you have a valid carry permit from any state you can carry a loaded gun in your car in PA, this license does not need to be recognized by PA for vehicle carry just needs to be valid from any state so Utah, Florida, Arizona and so on are still good to keep a loaded gun in your car when in PA, none will let you conceal carry or carry in Philadelphia however, so oc and stay out of Philly when you exit your car and you have your firearm on your body, if entering and exiting the vehicle in Philly keep your loaded firearm in your vehicle ianal

wrong Pa.C.S. § 6106(b)(11), which provides: Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.

wrong Pa.C.S. § 6106(b)(11), which provides: Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.

if everyone on this forum, maryland forum and pafoa forums just chips in a little, im sure he'll have the necessary funds in no time ill fund as much as i possibly can weekly and even sign up as a plantiff since i was carrying weekly in philly on my utah permit, now i have to keep it locked in my car when in philly, wont do me much good when im up in 60th st and whatnot

i heard attorney joshua prince is willing to sue if he can find plaintiffs and raise funds, anyone have any info on this?

is this to say we can only go shooting to ranges that were a member to and that range has "provided that the club has filed a copy of its charter with the superintendent and annually submits a list of its members to the superintendent and provided further that the firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section;" what about going out of state to shoot at a range?

you're correct imo, it wont take Kane long to change TX and after that no one in NJ is going to carry in Philly or concealed, it seems to me though that she is mostly doing this for Philly as this mostly only affects non residents wanting to carry in Philly, outside of philly you can still oc without a license, though you may be harassed and your gun may be taken when the serial number doesnt show up in the sales database and you cant prove ownership which has happened a few times in PA

well this is from Utahs main site The following states DO NOT recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit. (Click on the name of the state for further information): California Connecticut Hawaii Illinois Maine Maryland Massachusetts Nevada New Jersey New Mexico New York Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina

in the end it probably doesnt matter, Texas is our last hope, if and when we start going the texas route im sure it wont take Kane long to change it like she did with Virginia, Florida and Arizona

well hopefully Anjrpc will help to get the texas class here, though im not that hopeful

so it appears that all reciprocity is canceled even for non PA and non Utah residents with a Utah ccw

well with whats going on, im sure were going to be seeing a lot of texas classes offered in NJ in no time with a ridiculous price

maybe nothing has changed and UTAH CCWs are still usable by non-resident of Pennsylvania. Pa residents cannot use the UTAH license in Pa due to the recent ruling in Commonwealth v. McKown remember it always seemed kane was trying to keep PA residents from carrying with an out of state permit, anyways with the ruling in McKown PA residents can no longer carry with an out of state permit, maybe it was the McKown ruling that gave her power to change it, maybe and hopefully though nothing changes with non PA residents and we can continue carrying ianal

on handgunlaw.us it doesnt say the texas class has to be taken in texas, it just says it has to be taught by a certified handgun instructor.....

and the reason i believe scotus hates 2a issues is because there is too much politics and emotions involved in the issue, just like abortions, they ruled a few times in abortions and now they want to stay out of the issue and let the lower courts finalize the details, which they've been doing following the decision in roe, too bad we cant have the courts do the same with the decision in Heller, if the lower courts followed Heller like they do with roe, well we would have so form of shall issue by now

very unlikely they'll do that with the fear that the 5th will rule its constitutional and then in return add more fuel to the anti gunners, too much can go wrong with something like that, we just have to wait till peruta and Hawaii are played out in the 9th and hope en banc is denied so the split can be finalized

we have the Hawaii case which still needs to go through the district court, after it does and the 9th confirms the districts ruling is in line with peruta, then the Hawaii AG can appeal for en banc, if thats denied which it most likely will be then the Hawaii AG can appeal to scotus with a true split between the 9th and the 2nd 3rd and 4th circuit courts if the Hawaii AG decides not to appeal to scotus then the split is finalized, after that we have the NJ supreme court case that were probably going to lose and when we do Nappen will probably appeal that decision to scotus and use the split as a reason for scotus to take the case and solve the issue