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But again- it's more important that I get the guns I want than I "worry" about showing them my DL, which AGAIN- is something I have to do everytime I buy SUDAFED. You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Statistics have proven this wrong for decades. Every year, THOUSANDS of crimes are stopped by the mere brandishing of a firearm. Shots not even fired. Call me crazy, but I'd rather be involved in one of those instances than one where I shoot somebody. However- don't mistake my feelings on the matter for the unwillingness to shoot. http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2002/10/17/lottbrandish/

Just when you think your new gun is "finished"...you go to Boyd's Gunstocks website. DOH!

Made. My. Day. In a perfect world...

Exactly.

Ouch.

Scott, just ignore (some of) these people. It's not worth it. Do what you want (that's not legal advice, but neither is any other post in this thread.)

You're right that we shouldn't have to stand for that (if it isn't required by law), but here in the PRNJ I'd rather not makes waves, get my permits and guns, and get on with my life, than cause possible "issues" with getting any more in the future....hell, I have to show my DL everytime I buy Sudafed for chrissakes. I mean- really- the whole point is GETTING the gun(s), right?

Same thing happened to me. So I replied, "you're right. Want to move out of NJ? That would solve the problem." ...no reply Besides, I don't want to be associated with what is considered a "normal" person in this day and age.

Can't you be ARRESTED and taken to JAIL for reckless driving (reckless driving = 50mph over the posted speed limit)

idk guys, after watching this, I think I need at least a semi-auto now...lol

O'reilly is a RINO at best, and Costas... I can't listen to willful ignorance.

That's the troubling thing- apparently even the firearms division guys don't always know their stuff. My local FFL didn't want to sell me a Mini-30 because "a state trooper friend of mine, who works in the firearms division said 'flash hiders are illegal'". As in, illegal PERIOD. NO flash hiders of any kind, ever. Which is NOT what the law says. I found another local FFL to transfer the Mini-30 to me, sans 20-round magazine, no problem.

So, for 15 shells in an 870, the magazine tube would protrude, what, 6"-9" out past the (full-length)barrel? That's a serious underbite! lol

But does it MATTER? So they have a picture of me... so does the DMV, the gun range, and Costco. Seriously, I don't see why it matters? Whether it's the letter of the law or not, it's not like you're giving them info they wouldn't have access to anyway. Am I missing something?

Mansfield Twp, Warren County- same thing for a P2P couple months ago. Don't see why it matters. It's not like they don't have all your info already, so let them photocopy it.

Got that right! Mossberg Chainsaw

Brandishing does not mean pointing it at the perp. Read your own post above. It was quite eloquent.

"justification" varies by state. I'd rather live somewhere with the castle law.

Oh right- we're in NJ. lol I was just coming down on the side of "brandishing to stop a crime", because it has- hundreds of thousands of times. But yeah- here in PRNJ you've got to be really careful what you do, especially if your life isn't at immediate risk.

Somewhat disagree. Scaring off is still better and preferable to shooting someone. But to be clear, he didn't say "undesirables in his neighborhood", he said someone who was attempting to burglarize him. Better to scare them off BEFORE they possibly threaten your life and you HAVE to shoot.

So then, why do we own them?

Thanks for the heads up, fellas. I had cycled the ACTION - no shells- and thought all was fine. I didn't notice the slide did not fully retract. After your comments, I did some digging, and lo and behold... some 870s (not all) do have problems with the 6-shell sidesaddle. So I broke out the dremel, and 15 minutes later, problem solved:

My stable:

yeah- why?