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So, long story short, HPs are illegal... sometimes... yet another grey area no one knows the answer to. I'll keep them in my home defense pistol, prosecutor can kiss my ass. If NJ didn't want HPs to be legal, they would institute a state-wide BAN on them, you'd have to be LEO to buy, and that would be the end of it. But they haven't.

Agreed. See the post above yours.

Again, I hope you're right. I'm not "worried", I'm "prepared." To not be prepared in the event something like that might happen is foolish for us gun nuts/2A people. This isn't just a "hobby" or "sport" for alot of us.

i certainly hope you're right, but I'm preparing for if you're wrong, and it might turn out that you are...only time will tell.

Well, I'm a member of the NRA, and GOA, and NJ2A, so while I am not "marching on DC", I am doing something. I also act on every legislative alert the GOA sends out. I would like to think (almost) everyone here does likewise, otherwise they are careless. Besides that, and voting for pro-2A people, if the govt decides it simply isn't going to REPRESENT us anymore, well... that's what 2A is for. With the rapid-fire gun assault of the last 2 days, I don't think it's alarmist to stay VERY informed on this stuff, or you'll wake up one morning the AWB2 or the UN-US treaty being ratified. This is all scary stuff worthy of concern.

Disagree. These posts aren't "pond scum", they are spreading the latest developments, threats yet or not, to people who are supposed to care. If enough people who care realize what MIGHT happen, that it might "get a bill number attached to it", perhaps it won't. You don't wait until your 2 strikes down to start looking to swing. If you don't care, or think these informational posts are rubbish, you're foolish, and can ignore them at your pleasure. And ours.

Thanks for that.

I have always had to email companies a copy of my FID and DL. Here's one: I ordered some hi-cap mags for my sister's rifle (she lives in ohio, it's her bday present), so billing address NJ, shipping address Ohio... directly from Ruger.com.... nope. No can do.

I'll find out what Ohio says next weekend... going to visit mom and picking up a 10/22.

I can keep them in my gun and shoot somebody with them, right? Just like I can keep my gun in my home and shoot somebody with it, right? (let's not get into the whole "required to flee" discussion, I'm just talking hardware.)

Hollowpoints aren't illegal in NJ. Are they specified as illegal in a CCW gun?

Absolutely spot-on. The republicans are eating their own. I came up with a theory tonight... 2010 election cycle, the Tea Party (which is nothing more than THE PEOPLE) were so successful in electing who THEY wanted, and create gridlock (which is what they were elected to do- slam on the brakes), both parties decided it was going to have to be THEM (both parties united) against US (the people). It's becoming clear they have no intention of letting us govern ourselves, not really. Unless there is a grass roots effort that would make the Tea Party movement seem insignificant, I think we can kiss "of the people, by the people, for the people" goodbye. It'll be time to vote by exercising 2A. I'm sure even some gun-lovers here will think I'm nuts, but I think we may be seeing this actually come to fruition in our lifetime. I know grandfathers and fathers have been saying it for years, but we may be the generation that actually sees it. After all, we're already the longest-lasting democracy on the planet; we're over-ripe and starting to rot. "And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants" -Thomas Jefferson I've been saying it for years... God forbid. But it may well be in our lifetime.

Now THAT would be brilliant... give 'em what they want, get the "A", then go home and shoot your 10/22!!

I'm surprised anyone cares this much... the OP hasn't checked back in, and it's no secret the schools have been anti-gun for decades. Hell, when I was in 5th grade (30+ years ago) my teacher wouldn't let me do a book report on a war book. The more I read about the public school system, the more I think I'd homeschool my kids (if I had any).

+1.

The NRA has gotten soft in recent years, I think the GOA does a better job... even tho they are much smaller. Maybe if the NRA stopped spending so much damn money on mailers and instead spent it on fighting the good fight...

Wouldn't that be funny? That his policies actually DO help the industry that will arm America to the teeth, prepared for armed resistance, if necessary? Talk about a backfire.

I hate to disagree, but I must. Today's republican party is not our father's republican party. And Christie is no friend to 2A. I do think he will be the GOP nominee in 2016, and I don't like the idea much. He has been great for NJ, I'll give him that... but he has "Bloomberg-itis"... HE knows better than US, it's HIS way or the highway, so get out of his way.

All they did was vote to go to the talks. There's no treaty in front of US legislators.... yet.

Brilliant.

I could only afford 500, but they were SP

Didn't you know that?!?!? It's YOU'RE A RACIST AND IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT." That was the Obama supporters' rallying cry.

Wait- your kid drew that, right? Did he tell you he was coerced to put the no guns/save nature message in there? It's a blank space... "pass a law that _________" It's fill-in-the-blank? Pass a law that ..... the cafeteria would always serve pizza... If the teacher TOLD HIM to put that down, holy hell would rain.

I thought that was Nike

I've felt that way for awhile, but had some hope. No longer. Now I'm just hoping for 4 years of gridlock. America - LIBERTY - is in distress. Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free — Ronald Reagan