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I'm looking at the Ruger Mini-30 Tactical, which has the detachable magazine and what Ruger calls a flash suppressor. I have been told by an FFL "you can't have a flash suppressor in NJ unless its welded on", another FFL tell me you can on THAT rifle because it has none of the other "banned features", and another FFL tell me his "state trooper buddy told him that 'you can't have a flash suppressor, period' ". I know the laws are grey, but if I'm reading the them correctly, a flash suppressor IS legal as long as it's the ONLY banned item in addition to the detachable magazine. Can anybody verify this FOR SURE?

I find drawing from the thigh much more intuitive. But yeah- the real reason is to keep it out of the way while wearing a pack or other accessories. I don't remember where I got mine, it's ballistic nylon, and it was cheap. Just start with the cheap warehouses like Cheaper Than Dirt and Sportman's Guide... shouldn't be difficult to find one.

Excellent explanation/reasoning. Thanks.

Ha! Yeah... it's MINE tho. lol I hadn't realized just how crazy popular airguns had gotten... crazy stuff out there now.... I'll probably start looking into some of the more advanced stuff myself... even tho it's not a real firearm (regardless of NJ's "opinion" on the subject), it would still be nice to be able to practice accuracy and plinking in the back yard instead of having to drive to the range all the time... easier, more convenient, cheaper.

This looks perfect, except I'd want something alot longer, to set a row of cans in front of: http://www.crosman.c...ar/targets/0852 ...I could probably build one out of wood easy enuff, or better yet a large storage tupperware, maybe use a rubber car mat "curtain".... hmm... totally weather-proof, lightweight, saves the BBs, I think I may be formulating a plan...

a BB from a Red Ryder can punch thru carpet? This isn't a pump gun, just a little 350fps lever action. I like the idea of knocking over tin cans (instead of shooting a paper target), so I think I'll try to figure something out in that direction, with something behind them to keep the BBs from going anywhere else .... I'd like the "backdrop" to be weather-proof tho... it's something I'd just put behind the shed when not in use (so no carpet). Maybe some insulation board, painted black... Or, at least, an old comforter maybe as a backdrop, I can keep it in the garage, and just put the "frame" behind the shed... I'll search for your thread Wombat. On the subject of the BBs themselves, I see there is such a thing as biodegradable BBs?? Anyone make them in .177? And do they work in the Red Ryder type?

hmm... maybe something using just good ol' fashioned CANS... I usually have tons of them... maybe something to put the cans on, something to stop the BBs (and I'm talking BBs, not pellets), and easily moveable/storable behind the shed...

Looking for a DIY BB gun target I could set up in my backyard... I never thought of bb collection, but I see some people have target rigs that do that. Just looking to prop something up against the shed for plinking... My first thought was simply wallboard insulation, and pin the targets to it. But no bb collection that way... Just wondering what some of your guys' setups are...?

Hmm... you would think then, that NJ would make you fill out a COE for every purchase of everything all the time... including ammo.... (give them time...)

Thanks.

I thought that was the purpose of the FID... to "prove you are not a prohibited person"...?

Bumping this one back up, similar question: buying a gun from out of state, ON GUNBROKER.com In order to be in compliance? I win the auction, my local FFL is already a registered Gunbroker FFL, so the guy selling just ships it to my FFL. What I don't understand is where the COE comes into this? Do I need to send one for the buyer to fill out & ship with the gun? Or does my FFL do that, or what? (rifle, NJ legal).

I'm trying to understand this, .... it says the seller (whether a dealer or not) fills out and keeps one copy of the COE, and the buyer fills out and keeps the other copy of the COE. No copies ever go to law enforcement? What is the point? I'm also confused as it doesn't seem to be mentioned in this part of the nj law: There is currently no mandatory firearm registration in effect in NJ. If you move to NJ with firearms you must be sure they are NJ legal but there is no need to register them in any way with the state. Guns purchased while a NJ resident must be purchased within the guidelines of the state. All guns owned by NJ residents must be NJ legal. ...unless "purchased within the guidelines of the state" means "a CEO must be filled out"... but if a copy doesn't go to law enforcement, how would they ever know, and what difference would it make? I'm a bit confused on this one.

So, this COE only needs to be filled out when? If I buy a used firearm from someone? Because it's not filled out with the purchase of a new firearm in NJ, is it? (All my current firearms were brought into the state, by me, not purchased here.)

Jumping on board here.... very interested in a IN-WALL safe... for rifles? I would love to get a big old Liberty safe, but have nowhere to put it... inside a closet, in the wall, would be perfect... wouldn't need to be huge, just hold 2-3 rifles a shotgun, a couple pistols, ammo... can anyone point me in the direction of such a thing?

What's a COE? I thought as long as the firearms in question are NJ-legal (and not handguns), all that is required is an FID, whether purchased in-state or brought in from out-of-state.

Looks to me like it's LEOs who need gun control laws.

Laugh for the day!! Great!

Ruger LC9. For if I ever move out of this godforsaken state, or if the SHTF in which case I won't care about the laws, I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

Whoops! Read so fast I missed it... a sweet one, indeed. A buddy has one. Can't believe how straight it shoots... couldn't believe how far we were accurate with just the iron sites. (Also can't REMEMBER either...lol... age is sneaking up on me, but it's definitely the longest shot we have ever made with iron sites.)

Haven't met Walt yet, but have been talking to him via email, and have a handgun on layaway there. He's looking into the Ruger Mini-30 Tactical for me, but I think the problem lies with Ruger's backlog...

Thanks for the welcome. You'll be seeing me around quite a bit... and even moreso, depending on how this coming election turns out.

Doesn't "M1 carbine type" (which is what it says on the banned list), ban the US M1 carbine? I wouldn't see why not, but then I also don't see how the Springfield M1A is legal... or the Mini14/30, or many others...

Could you clarify? Because that doesn't make sense. It's either legal or it's not...? I see you're an FFL, so please, fill us in on the specifics? I'd love to keep my M1 (even tho the 30rd mags would still have to "disappear")

Screw handing it over to the state police. I agree, get it out of the state, but someone will buy that gun... get it to an out-of-state gun show or something. I'm no expert on the subject either, but no way in hell would I surrender it to anyone for destruction. It's not necessary. It just needs to get out of NJ.