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Unless you're one of those "locals". As far as it taking a long time- they have time- they've been trying to circumvent 2A since 1837. A little here, a little there. Easiest would be to leave it up to the states. TOTAL confiscation would be impossible without a door-to-door search. But as long as their is a law saying they can take such-and-such a gun, they could get their hands on quite a few of 'em, I think. Pass a law that requires national or even state registration of EVERY firearm, and it's game over- register or become a felon if you're caught. We're trying to avoid that happening, of course, but it's all baby steps. Problem is, baby steps add up to something very very big over the course of 200 years.

So, if the PD (or whatever force the govt decides to use for confiscation) decides to "disarm Hackettstown", they could start by going to Walt's (Hackettstown Guns and Ammo), pulling ALL the 4473s, then they have a "partial registry" of Hackettstown... Of course they won't know where ALL the guns are, but they'll know where to go first. Long guns included. Multiply by every gun dealer in the state. Am I wrong?

Fantastic quote.

The bottom line is, WHATEVER you want to CALL it- yes: they know what you have. One way or the other. Unless a gun is old enough that is was purchased before backgrounds checks became law, in which case all those millions of guns are simply "out there". My mom has about 6.

There are quite a few Founding Fathers quotes being tossed around on the pro-gun side that are not true, or can't be proven. Have to be very careful with that. I verify a founder's quote before reposting it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the dealer keep a copy of 4473? And I think the ATF also retains a copy for weapons traces? That would mean, while the long gun isn't techincally regiastered in some grand database, if you were being investigated for some reason, by checking the NICS system/ATF records, seeing you made purchases at such-and-such dealer on such-and-such dates, they call the dealer and get the gun info, or simply get it from the ATF. Or, if mass confiscation ever happens, they simply pull all ATF/dealer records. So I wouldn't say "nobody knows", I'd say "nobody knows... until they want to know."

One of the better posts on the subject. We need more of this and less of "load your damn mags!" (altho, it would be prudent to load your damn mags )

You mean things I can't GET CAUGHT doing in my house Point being, there's nothing "irresponsible" about leaving a loaded weapon (not in a safe) inside a LOCKED house (with no children.) Unless my dog figures out how to use a P89 "more kibble or mom gets it!!"

Well, for cherry wood, handcrafted, actually not too bad... especially considering the "benefit".

I have. It's my house. I have no kids. I lock my house when I leave. I can do any damn thing I please.

YUP. That bookcase is awesome. Wonder what it costs? $$$$

No kids. How long does it take you to get into your bedside keyed safe if someone wakes you up at 2am?

I forgot about those fingerprint safes... that might be a good idea. I could maybe mount it to the wall between the bed and nightstand. Something like this http://www.meijer.com/s/gunvault-speedvault-quick-access-gun-safe/_/R-219194;jsessionid=5EBA642CE58A5B0259210E4409C0B7BB.instance01?CAWELAID=1421991646&cagpspn=pla&cmpid=Google-G_US_Meijer_eCom_PLA_Sporting_Goods&kpid=SV500 And ditto the ground floor- been trying to think of a way to do same down there... I have one of those hollow books I could put in my large built-in bookshelf...

Here's a question for you guys re: burglars... If someone breaks in while I'm home, of course we all know what we would do. But- I keep a handgun in my nightstand for just such incidents, and I do not lock it up in the safe every time I leave the house. If someone were to break in while I was at work or at dinner, I would probably lose that handgun. And it has made me question whether I should, at the very least, put it in the safe in the morning, and take it out at bedtime every night. However- I grew up with guns placed all over the house, so no matter where you were, if someone broke in, you were relatively close to one. My dad left them there, we had no safe. A burglar would have gotten them all (of course, back then, it was no big deal to go and buy more... alot more... immediately). Just wondering: what do you guys do?

lol

I wouldn't call that very "hidden". Hidden from SIGHT, yes. A cool STORAGE idea, but not secure. I'd rather have a gun safe any day.

Quote of the day!!!

that's "bulletleggin"...... East Bound and Down, loaded up and truckin'....

Herters. Picked up 200. Would have bought more if I had the funds.

yup, that guy is GREAT.

+1. I want his life, his porch, his land, and his M1 Carbine. So I can take a "woods walk" and have some fun!

Ray, the point is, the results are all within mere seconds of one another, therefore any sort of arbitrary magazine limit would do no good whatsoever. It stops the anti's argument that LCMs are part of the problem... because in this video it is shown mag capacity makes very little if any difference. The antis either have to accept facts, OR call for a ban on everything that takes a removable magazine. But of course, we're talking common sense here, something the antis don't possess much of.

Exactly right.

Right back at ya bro. Have a good night.